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#1 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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A family is in shock and a community has united after an anonymous hate letter was written about a young boy living with severe autism.

Karla Begley told CityNews her son Max, 13, stays with his grandmother in the morning during the summer time. It was at that home in Newcastle where letter was delivered on Friday.

I was shaking when I was reading it, Brenda Millson, Maxs grandmother, told CityNews. Its awful words. You dont know why somebody would ever do such a thing.

The typed, one-page letter refers to the young boy as a nuisance and a wild animal before suggesting the family move or euthanize the child.

Begley says the police have been contacted and should they have grounds, charges will be filed against the letters author.

http://www.citynews.ca/2013/08/18/family-in-shock-after-hate-letter-targets-teen-with-autism/

ummm. wtf. I don't usually condone internet justice but this lady is sure screwed if a certain website finds out who she is.

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#2 heeweesRus
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what a f*cking bitch
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#3 Capitan_Kid
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What a pvssy. Talking all that shit and hiding. The author of that note deserves a punch in the face
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#4 Jimn_tonic
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Sincerely,

a coward, and willfully ignorant woman, who will not approach you directly on the subject, because I am so fearful that you would enlighten me on you child's mental problem, so I would become more empathetic towards people in his mental condition, and also inform my own children about some of the problems people have in this world.

I mean, one pissed off mother!!!!1111!!11

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#5 Rattlesnake_8
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Of course the person that wrote it has to be a coward and hide their identity. How can someone be so cruel to another person.. the worst is the author claims to be a mother and yet is speaking about someone elses child that way. She has some serious issues to be able to do that.
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#6 WhiteKnight77
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Only in America. Oh wait, it wasn't the US but Canada. So much for being more accepting of others no matter what.

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#7 Pirate700
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That note saddens but doesn't surprise me.

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#8 Engrish_Major
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She should have used more exclamation points.
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#9 lostrib
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so apparently loud noises from babies and stereos and dogs is all cool, but some kid screams too much and it's straight to euthanization? Yeah, that sounds reasonable

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Damn she needs her face stomped in
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#11 lostrib
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Damn she needs her face stomped inBucked20

yeah that seems like a reasonable response :roll:

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I hope you-know-who finds out who this psychopath is and makes her life a living hell.
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Damn she needs her face stomped inlostrib

yeah that seems like a reasonable response :roll:

To be honest, I'd let the child run through this womens house. Autistic children can be really destructive.
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Damn she needs her face stomped inlostrib

yeah that seems like a reasonable response :roll:

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Only in America. Oh wait, it wasn't the US but Canada. So much for being more accepting of others no matter what.

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lmao

you're trying too hard, man

 

 

 

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Damn she needs her face stomped inclyde46

yeah that seems like a reasonable response :roll:

To be honest, I'd let the child run through this womens house. Autistic children can be really destructive.

Just let that kid scream his head off until the woman comes forward

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#17 Alpha_S_
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Wow, what a wonderful human being.  :roll:

Dial back the exclamation points lady.

How can someone be so cruel to another person.. Rattlesnake_8

Hello, you must be new to this planet. :)

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#18 dominer
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Just awful.

The children of that bitch mother must have awful lives.

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the police have been contacted and should they have grounds, charges will be filed against the letters authorAljosa23
What grounds would they have for such charges? it's a horrible letter, and that c*** deserves a hammer to the face. but you know.. free speech and all that..
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"] the police have been contacted and should they have grounds, charges will be filed against the letters authorSword-Demon
What grounds would they have for such charges? it's a horrible letter, and that c*** deserves a hammer to the face. but you know.. free speech and all that..

It could easily be taken as a threat.

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#21 cain006
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Honestly it's so extreme that it seems like something that would only happen in a TV show or something.

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#22 nomsayin
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what a biatch

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#23 chessmaster1989
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The fvck is her problem. In addition to being a b*tch, she's too much of a pvssy to confront this directly.

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"] the police have been contacted and should they have grounds, charges will be filed against the letters authorPirate700

What grounds would they have for such charges? it's a horrible letter, and that c*** deserves a hammer to the face. but you know.. free speech and all that..

It could easily be taken as a threat.

I don't see how. The only thing I see that could possibly be construed as a threat is that she says he would be better off dead, but wishing death upon someone isn't a threat.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"] the police have been contacted and should they have grounds, charges will be filed against the letters authorSword-Demon
What grounds would they have for such charges? it's a horrible letter, and that c*** deserves a hammer to the face. but you know.. free speech and all that..

Defamation with a side of hate crime, probably.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"] What grounds would they have for such charges? it's a horrible letter, and that c*** deserves a hammer to the face. but you know.. free speech and all that..Sword-Demon

It could easily be taken as a threat.

I don't see how. The only thing I see that could possibly be construed as a threat is that she says he would be better off dead, but wishing death upon someone isn't a threat.

they probably can't charge the person with a meaningful offense but it would still be good to talk to the police so you could establish a case for harrassment if it continues to occur.  Or so the police are aware in case anything escalates

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"] the police have been contacted and should they have grounds, charges will be filed against the letters authorAljosa23

What grounds would they have for such charges? it's a horrible letter, and that c*** deserves a hammer to the face. but you know.. free speech and all that..

Defamation with a side of hate crime, probably.

Not sure how it works in Canada but that wouldn't be defamation here. It was a private letter and everything said in it was said seemingly as opinion.

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#28 ghoklebutter
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God forbid we try to be nice and accommodating to mentally disabled kids.
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#29 deactivated-598fc45371265
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Not that there aren't horrible people out there, but I have a feeling the letter is fake.

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#30 nintendoman562
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I work with kids with autism and this almost made me cry...

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Not sure how it works in Canada but that wouldn't be defamation here. It was a private letter and everything said in it was said seemingly as opinion.

Pirate700

Defamatory libel is a criminal charge here that has a two year max sentence even if it's opinion. And since the letter is published now it's made public.

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#32 zeroyaoi
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That was really disgusting.
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#33 OrkHammer007
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Sad, but as someone with an autistic brother and who has worked with autistic children, I don't find it surprising.

The lack of education in regards to the challenges of "controlling" an autistic person is appalling. No one seems to understand that when a child (or worse, a fully-grown autistic adult) has an "episode" (or, as some parents call them, a meltdown), it's not always possible to calm them or rein them in. It's sometimes best to let the meltdown/episode run its course, and if you have no idea what's going on, it can seem scary or bothersome.

So, no... I wouldn't smack "One Pissed-Off Mother!!!" for being a Class A bitch, but I would force her to take classes in autism awareness.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Not sure how it works in Canada but that wouldn't be defamation here. It was a private letter and everything said in it was said seemingly as opinion.

Aljosa23

Defamatory libel is a criminal charge here that has a two year max sentence even if it's opinion. And since the letter is published now it's made public.

none of her statements seem defamatory

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Not sure how it works in Canada but that wouldn't be defamation here. It was a private letter and everything said in it was said seemingly as opinion.

Aljosa23

Defamatory libel is a criminal charge here that has a two year max sentence even if it's opinion. And since the letter is published now it's made public.

Right but I'd assume the receipient made it published thus it wouldn't be on the sender. The note is terrible but defamation seems like a stretch to me.

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#36 DavesAlt
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Only in America. Oh wait, it wasn't the US but Canada. So much for being more accepting of others no matter what.

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Don't stoop to TC's level
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#37 DavesAlt
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Sad stuff
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Not sure how it works in Canada but that wouldn't be defamation here. It was a private letter and everything said in it was said seemingly as opinion.

Aljosa23

Defamatory libel is a criminal charge here that has a two year max sentence even if it's opinion. And since the letter is published now it's made public.

Because the mother MADE it public. It's not like the person who wrote the letter published it all over the place and included actual names.

If this falls under actual criminal libel then Canada is in worse shape than I thought.

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Because the mother MADE it public. It's not like the person who wrote the letter published it all over the place and included actual names.

If this falls under actual criminal libel then Canada is in worse shape than I thought.

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299. A person publishes a libel when he

(a) exhibits it in public;

(b) causes it to be read or seen; or

(c) shows or delivers it, or causes it to be shown or delivered, with intent that it should be read or seen by the person whom it defames or by any other person.

Published in this case means anything written down and not just put into newspapers.

 

 

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Because the mother MADE it public. It's not like the person who wrote the letter published it all over the place and included actual names.

If this falls under actual criminal libel then Canada is in worse shape than I thought.

Aljosa23



299. A person publishes a libel when he

(a) exhibits it in public;

(b) causes it to be read or seen; or

(c) shows or delivers it, or causes it to be shown or delivered, with intent that it should be read or seen by the person whom it defames or by any other person.

Published in this case means anything written down and not just put into newspapers.

 

 

but nothing she wrote seems to be defamatory.  Rude perhaps

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#41 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Because the mother MADE it public. It's not like the person who wrote the letter published it all over the place and included actual names.

If this falls under actual criminal libel then Canada is in worse shape than I thought.

Aljosa23



299. A person publishes a libel when he

(a) exhibits it in public;

(b) causes it to be read or seen; or

(c) shows or delivers it, or causes it to be shown or delivered, with intent that it should be read or seen by the person whom it defames or by any other person.

Published in this case means anything written down and not just put into newspapers.

 

 

The person to delivered it wouldn't have caused it to the shown though.

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#42 DavesAlt
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like Americas law about this stuff better
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Only in America. Oh wait, it wasn't the US but Canada. So much for being more accepting of others no matter what.

WhiteKnight77

Oh brother.

Anyway, this lady is absolute scum.

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but nothing she wrote seems to be defamatory.  Rude perhaps

lostrib

That's up to the Crown to decide. I'm just saying what the law is here.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

but nothing she wrote seems to be defamatory.  Rude perhaps

Aljosa23

That's up to the Crown to decide. I'm just saying what the law is here.

does canada define defamation differently from US?

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

but nothing she wrote seems to be defamatory.  Rude perhaps

Aljosa23

That's up to the Crown to decide...

Not to stray from the topic, but that sounded really cool. :P

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

but nothing she wrote seems to be defamatory.  Rude perhaps

lostrib

That's up to the Crown to decide. I'm just saying what the law is here.

does canada define defamation differently from US?

apparently if someones feelings are hurt, it's defamation.

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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Only in America. Oh wait, it wasn't the US but Canada. So much for being more accepting of others no matter what.

GreySeal9

Oh brother.

Anyway, this lady is absolute scum.

I remember when wk77 flipped out about someone making a thread about flooding in Canada. Maybe he hates you guys for some reason
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does canada define defamation differently from US?

lostrib

Perhaps? Not really sure how it is in the US. Canada's definition is taken from the British one and anything that tries to lower the esteem of someone in the eyes of others. Statements that most likely true aren't exempt.