Women and Liberals don't like Maths - National survey.

The results, from Gallup's Aug. 7-11 Work and Education poll, are generally similar to those from 11 years ago. The most notable difference is a sharp increase in the percentage mentioning science, from 4% to 12%. While still well behind math and English, science has now moved ahead of history into third place in the rank order of subjects.

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Where does it state that they don't like math?

 

loco145

Liberal answers line up with those of the most educated among our society. I don't see a problem with that?

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Squeets

Liberal answers line up with those of the most educated among our society. I don't see a problem with that?

Tc try and understand what the data is saying dave123321

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Tc try and understand what the data is saying loco145

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Tc try and understand what the data is saying loco145

Or in their daily lives they don't use math as much? Since graduating high school, I use math more when doing recreational things then when in undergrad/gradschoool/working. Does that mean I think math is less important? Nope.

math is less important in a non math related field, like Law. It's all relative.

Allicrombie

Or in their daily lives they don't use math as much? Since graduating high school, I use math more when doing recreational things then when in undergrad/gradschoool/working. Does that mean I think math is less important? Nope.

Zlurodirom

Very odd way to try an bash women and liberals. 

 

 [QUOTE="Allicrombie"]math is less important in a non math related field, like Law. It's all relative.

loco145

I see math like kids see their vegetables; necessary, and horrible because of that fact.

Not to mention it is so reinforced in us, we don't really have an appreciation for it.  Creativity, on the other hand, is both underappreciated and not reinforced.

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Tc try and understand what the data is saying loco145

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 [QUOTE="Allicrombie"]math is less important in a non math related field, like Law. It's all relative.

Allicrombie

You know this how? :shock: 

Very odd way to try an bash women and liberals. 

jimkabrhel

[QUOTE="Allicrombie"][QUOTE="loco145"] So, high school dropouts use more math than a lawyer? WhiteKnight77

You know this how? :shock: 

[QUOTE="Allicrombie"][QUOTE="loco145"] So, high school dropouts use more math than a lawyer? WhiteKnight77

You know this how? :shock: 

Does this mean that conservatives don't like to read dave123321

[QUOTE="Zlurodirom"]Or in their daily lives they don't use math as much? Since graduating high school, I use math more when doing recreational things then when in undergrad/gradschoool/working. Does that mean I think math is less important? Nope.

loco145

I don't believe I can answer that question alone. We would need to define how we use math, and how we percieve it's value. Let me explain.

I use math when I count calories for food, or measure out ingredients when making food. I use math and formulas in excel. both for work and when I'm charting investments or other things for fun. I use math to tell time and time displacement. I use statistics for data analysis, as well when reviewing literature. Math when planning a driving or bussing route, math when I'm looking at blocks go by when driving or walking. There are many more examples of basic math too. I expect most people do this as well

Personally I find most of these processes simple and easy and use very little psychological resources to perform these activities. This may be different than a high school dropout who struggles a little more with basic mathematic concepts and places a higher value on these day-to-day requirements? Since a high school dropout did not take as many literature or science classes, maybe they did not understand enough to really enjoy them and continue learning? Maybe those who pursue higher education choose literature and science as a way of socializing and hob-nobbing with others, as they are more debatable than hard math? Maybe high school dropouts emphasize the use of math in their daily lives more than higher educated individuals? There are many possible reasons for the poll outcomes.

However the fact that you read between the lines at something that does not seem to be there is more telling than the entire poll.

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[QUOTE="Zlurodirom"]Or in their daily lives they don't use math as much? Since graduating high school, I use math more when doing recreational things then when in undergrad/gradschoool/working. Does that mean I think math is less important? Nope.

Zlurodirom

I don't believe I can answer that question alone. We would need to define how we use math, and how we percieve it's value. Let me explain.

I use math when I count calories for food, or measure out ingredients when making food. I use math and formulas in excel. both for work and when I'm charting investments or other things for fun. I use math to tell time and time displacement. I use statistics for data analysis, as well when reviewing literature. Math when planning a driving or bussing route, math when I'm looking at blocks go by when driving or walking. There are many more examples of basic math too. I expect most people do this as well

Personally I find most of these processes simple and easy and use very little psychological resources to perform these activities. This may be different than a high school dropout who struggles a little more with basic mathematic concepts and places a higher value on these day-to-day requirements? Since a high school dropout did not take as many literature or science classes, maybe they did not understand enough to really enjoy them and continue learning? Maybe those who pursue higher education choose literature and science as a way of socializing and hob-nobbing with others, as they are more debatable than hard math? Maybe high school dropouts emphasize the use of math in their daily lives more than higher educated individuals? There are many possible reasons for the poll outcomes.

However the fact that you read between the lines at something that does not seem to be there is more telling than the entire poll.

[QUOTE="Zlurodirom"]

I don't believe I can answer that question alone. We would need to define how we use math, and how we percieve it's value. Let me explain.

I use math when I count calories for food, or measure out ingredients when making food. I use math and formulas in excel. both for work and when I'm charting investments or other things for fun. I use math to tell time and time displacement. I use statistics for data analysis, as well when reviewing literature. Math when planning a driving or bussing route, math when I'm looking at blocks go by when driving or walking. There are many more examples of basic math too. I expect most people do this as well

Personally I find most of these processes simple and easy and use very little psychological resources to perform these activities. This may be different than a high school dropout who struggles a little more with basic mathematic concepts and places a higher value on these day-to-day requirements? Since a high school dropout did not take as many literature or science classes, maybe they did not understand enough to really enjoy them and continue learning? Maybe those who pursue higher education choose literature and science as a way of socializing and hob-nobbing with others, as they are more debatable than hard math? Maybe high school dropouts emphasize the use of math in their daily lives more than higher educated individuals? There are many possible reasons for the poll outcomes.

However the fact that you read between the lines at something that does not seem to be there is more telling than the entire poll.

loco145

In your math emphasis you seem to have left critical thinking and reading comprehension at the door.

Please re-read my post and let's try it again (hint, read the first 3 setences of my post again).

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[QUOTE="Zlurodirom"]

I don't believe I can answer that question alone. We would need to define how we use math, and how we percieve it's value. Let me explain.

I use math when I count calories for food, or measure out ingredients when making food. I use math and formulas in excel. both for work and when I'm charting investments or other things for fun. I use math to tell time and time displacement. I use statistics for data analysis, as well when reviewing literature. Math when planning a driving or bussing route, math when I'm looking at blocks go by when driving or walking. There are many more examples of basic math too. I expect most people do this as well

Personally I find most of these processes simple and easy and use very little psychological resources to perform these activities. This may be different than a high school dropout who struggles a little more with basic mathematic concepts and places a higher value on these day-to-day requirements? Since a high school dropout did not take as many literature or science classes, maybe they did not understand enough to really enjoy them and continue learning? Maybe those who pursue higher education choose literature and science as a way of socializing and hob-nobbing with others, as they are more debatable than hard math? Maybe high school dropouts emphasize the use of math in their daily lives more than higher educated individuals? There are many possible reasons for the poll outcomes.

However the fact that you read between the lines at something that does not seem to be there is more telling than the entire poll.

Zlurodirom

In your math emphasis you seem to have left critical thinking and reading comprehension at the door.

Please re-read my post and let's try it again (hint, read the first 3 setences of my post again).

[QUOTE="Zlurodirom"]

[QUOTE="loco145"] Looks like you don't have a good understanding of the definition of value. Things that easy aren't necessarily of lower value.

loco145

In your math emphasis you seem to have left critical thinking and reading comprehension at the door.

Please re-read my post and let's try it again (hint, read the first 3 setences of my post again).

Like I said we need to define this before we start assessing "value".

Here is an example of a simple process that has a large value to quality of life:

Let's say I take the bus to work every morning. I time the schedule so I get to work 10 minutes early. Let's say I miss the bus because of oversleeping, and take the next bus 20 minutes later, my boss yells at me for being late and I get a warning. This happens 2 more times in the next month because I have been moonlighting elsewhere and sleep has been at a premium. My boss then lets me go for not being "dedicated" to my work. Setting an alarm and taking a bus is very simple, but there are dire consequences if the actions aren't performed correctly, something that I use very little cognitive resources on because it is a simple task, but of the utmost important if I wish to stay employed.

Different people will place different emphasis on this. Maybe someone has a backup plan if they get laid off, maybe one hated his/her job in the first place. We need to standardize and define all this before we can assess it.

I think reading comprehension is much more valuable. Case in point: A few years ago, they only required Engineering majors at CSULB to take a basic English course to fulfill the English requirement to graduate. They started seeing that their papers were terrible and overall, that their reading comprehension and writing skills were below average. So they made it so that all majors needed a college level English course to graduate and found that the first time they took the course, almost 85% of the Engineering majors failed.Allicrombie

Being able to read and comprehend what one is reading is important no matter what kind of degree one is seeking. An engineer needs to be able to understand how to correctly form sentences so directions are understood on how to put something together. One simple mistake can lead to thousands of dollars being wasted due to bad instructions.

Oh yeah, likely story on the Breaking Bad excuse. :P 

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Does this mean that conservatives don't like to read Aljosa23

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Does this mean that conservatives don't like to read Aljosa23

Generalizations and all that. 

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Does this mean that conservatives don't like to read WhiteKnight77

Generalizations and all that. 

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Does this mean that conservatives don't like to read chaplainDMK

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Does this mean that conservatives don't like to read WhiteKnight77

Generalizations and all that. 

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]No Conservatives don't like science bro.

Aljosa23

Generalizations and all that. 

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]No Conservatives don't like science bro.dave123321

I've heard that boys tend to do better at math than girls in school. I'm a guy and I despise math. Sometime in junior high or high school, I was considered to have a math learning disability. Anything above basic algebra is pretty much a no-go for me. I had to switch to a math skills (mostly algebra) class because I was getting a D in freaking geometry concepts in high school.

Right now, in community college, I have a chemistry class, and so far, after the couple days I've been there...I know it's gonna suck. The teacher goes really fast, gives us notes to take, and then gives us a problem to do, which I obviously can't do. It includes shit like conversions (convert mg to kg, cm to inches, km to miles, Celsius to Fahrenheit, blah, blah, phucking blah) and then there's the decimal crap, which I marginally understand. I'll take one .50 BMG to the head, please. 

OP is pro conservative.

Anyone pro something is stupid in my book.

I've heard that boys tend to do better at math than girls in school. I'm a guy and I despise math. Sometime in junior high or high school, I was considered to have a math learning disability. Anything above basic algebra is pretty much a no-go for me. I had to switch to a math skills (mostly algebra) class because I was getting a D in freaking geometry concepts in high school.

Right now, in community college, I have a chemistry class, and so far, after the couple days I've been there...I know it's gonna suck. The teacher goes really fast, gives us notes to take, and then gives us a problem to do, which I obviously can't do. It includes shit like conversions (convert mg to kg, cm to inches, km to miles, Celsius to Fahrenheit, blah, blah, phucking blah) and then there's the decimal crap, which I marginally understand. I'll take one .50 BMG to the head, please. 

gamerguru100

OK, here is something to help you understand decimal points. Do you have any idea of what this is and what it refers to? If so, that will help you. 

Women don't like math????   Seriously?  How else do they figure out who they want to marry?

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]No Conservatives don't like science bro.

dave123321

Generalizations and all that. 

OP is pro conservative.

Anyone pro something is stupid in my book.

Gaming-Planet

:lol:

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]

I've heard that boys tend to do better at math than girls in school. I'm a guy and I despise math. Sometime in junior high or high school, I was considered to have a math learning disability. Anything above basic algebra is pretty much a no-go for me. I had to switch to a math skills (mostly algebra) class because I was getting a D in freaking geometry concepts in high school.

Right now, in community college, I have a chemistry class, and so far, after the couple days I've been there...I know it's gonna suck. The teacher goes really fast, gives us notes to take, and then gives us a problem to do, which I obviously can't do. It includes shit like conversions (convert mg to kg, cm to inches, km to miles, Celsius to Fahrenheit, blah, blah, phucking blah) and then there's the decimal crap, which I marginally understand. I'll take one .50 BMG to the head, please. 

WhiteKnight77

OK, here is something to help you understand decimal points. Do you have any idea of what this is and what it refers to? If so, that will help you. 

But I loves math :(

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[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]

I've heard that boys tend to do better at math than girls in school. I'm a guy and I despise math. Sometime in junior high or high school, I was considered to have a math learning disability. Anything above basic algebra is pretty much a no-go for me. I had to switch to a math skills (mostly algebra) class because I was getting a D in freaking geometry concepts in high school.

Right now, in community college, I have a chemistry class, and so far, after the couple days I've been there...I know it's gonna suck. The teacher goes really fast, gives us notes to take, and then gives us a problem to do, which I obviously can't do. It includes shit like conversions (convert mg to kg, cm to inches, km to miles, Celsius to Fahrenheit, blah, blah, phucking blah) and then there's the decimal crap, which I marginally understand. I'll take one .50 BMG to the head, please. 

dave123321

OK, here is something to help you understand decimal points. Do you have any idea of what this is and what it refers to? If so, that will help you. 

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]

I've heard that boys tend to do better at math than girls in school. I'm a guy and I despise math. Sometime in junior high or high school, I was considered to have a math learning disability. Anything above basic algebra is pretty much a no-go for me. I had to switch to a math skills (mostly algebra) class because I was getting a D in freaking geometry concepts in high school.

Right now, in community college, I have a chemistry class, and so far, after the couple days I've been there...I know it's gonna suck. The teacher goes really fast, gives us notes to take, and then gives us a problem to do, which I obviously can't do. It includes shit like conversions (convert mg to kg, cm to inches, km to miles, Celsius to Fahrenheit, blah, blah, phucking blah) and then there's the decimal crap, which I marginally understand. I'll take one .50 BMG to the head, please. 

WhiteKnight77

OK, here is something to help you understand decimal points. Do you have any idea of what this is and what it refers to? If so, that will help you. 

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]

I've heard that boys tend to do better at math than girls in school. I'm a guy and I despise math. Sometime in junior high or high school, I was considered to have a math learning disability. Anything above basic algebra is pretty much a no-go for me. I had to switch to a math skills (mostly algebra) class because I was getting a D in freaking geometry concepts in high school.

Right now, in community college, I have a chemistry class, and so far, after the couple days I've been there...I know it's gonna suck. The teacher goes really fast, gives us notes to take, and then gives us a problem to do, which I obviously can't do. It includes shit like conversions (convert mg to kg, cm to inches, km to miles, Celsius to Fahrenheit, blah, blah, phucking blah) and then there's the decimal crap, which I marginally understand. I'll take one .50 BMG to the head, please. 

gamerguru100

OK, here is something to help you understand decimal points. Do you have any idea of what this is and what it refers to? If so, that will help you. 

Yes, exactly. Caliber is described in inches. 1.00 would be one inch. Think of that round this way, 0.50". Said round can be used in other weapons too such as a Barrett M82 otherwise known as a M107 in the military. 

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

OK, here is something to help you understand decimal points. Do you have any idea of what this is and what it refers to? If so, that will help you. 

WhiteKnight77

Yes, exactly. Caliber is described in inches. 1.00 would be one inch. Think of that round this way, 0.50". Said round can be used in other weapons too such as a Barrett M82 otherwise known as a M107 in the military. 

I'm more of a first person shooter fan than a gun fan, due mostly because I've been playing FPS games since...uh...2006 or 7ish...maybe, and I've only held onto a real gun. I've pulled the trigger of the gun before too, but there weren't any bullets in it of course. I was fascinated by the magazine release and putting the magazine in and taking it out again. However, I couldn't cock the weapon to save my life. Maybe it was stubborn. :P