World war 2 was not america's war

i do not know why us americans seem to think this way. These are a list of casualties for each country

Russia- 8,000,000

Germany-3,000,000

Japan- 2,000,000

America- 500,000

Brittain- 200,000

i do not know why us americans seem to think this way. These are a list of casualties for each country

Russia- 8,000,000

Germany-3,000,000

Japan- 2,000,000

America- 500,000

Brittain- 200,000

Tokugawa77

um what?

Those stats don't prove anything... Britain was in it longer than America yet they have 300,000 less casualties?

Yes. Hence World War II. :? That being said, America was involved towards the end of the war. And I don't see what a list of casualties has to do with anything.

Thanks for the update.:?

i do not know why us americans seem to think this way. These are a list of casualties for each country

Russia- 8,000,000

Germany-3,000,000

Japan- 2,000,000

America- 500,000

Brittain- 200,000

Tokugawa77

Oh gee only half a million. Ok, then I guess that means it wasn't our War. It wasn't Britan's War either, even though their cities got bombed and they were instrumental in helping us push back the Storm of Axis troops ...

My bad ...

Silly TC.

Also your stats are quite off..

it may not have been our war, but we sure paid for it...

The U.S. spent the most money on the war, an estimated $341 billion, including $50 billion for lend-lease supplies, of which $31 billion went to Britain, $11 billion to the Soviet Union, $5 billion to China, and $3 billion to 35 other countries. -history.com

i do not know why us americans seem to think this way. These are a list of casualties for each country

Russia- 8,000,000

Germany-3,000,000

Japan- 2,000,000

America- 500,000

Brittain- 200,000

Tokugawa77

soooooooooooo more dead and wounded = more involved?

I dont know, I can think of a million ways to spin this

maybe the Russians didnt have efficient soldiers

maybe the Japanese did too many suicide attacks

maybe the Americans had secret, super-powered armor suits

who knows!?

gotta love the fallacy of statistics.

[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

i do not know why us americans seem to think this way. These are a list of casualties for each country

Russia- 8,000,000

Germany-3,000,000

Japan- 2,000,000

America- 500,000

Brittain- 200,000

mrbojangles25

soooooooooooo more dead and wounded = more involved?

I dont know, I can think of a million ways to spin this

maybe the Russians didnt have efficient soldiers

maybe the Japanese did too many suicide attacks

maybe the Americans had secret, super-powered armor suits

who knows!?

gotta love the fallacy of statistics.

the germans had ubercharge!

Am i the only one that is completely taken back by the complete innacuracy of those stats?

Am i the only one that is completely taken back by the complete innacuracy of those stats?

RiseAgainst12

uh...hence it being called a world war. Where do you get the idea that Americans claim it as theirs above anyone else's? We were involved in the war and thus it is a part of American history. I'm not sure what your point is TC....

Those stats don't prove anything... Britain was in it longer than America yet they have 300,000 less casualties?

Jfisch93

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

Am i the only one that is completely taken back by the complete innacuracy of those stats?

super_mario_128

[QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

Those stats don't prove anything... Britain was in it longer than America yet they have 300,000 less casualties?

psychobrew

these stats are not off, they have been confirmed by numerous resouces. And Im sorry if i assumed the majority of americans thought that it was our war, but many of my classmates seem to think so. I am just making a point

Am i the only one that is completely taken back by the complete innacuracy of those stats?

these stats are not off, they have been confirmed by numerous resouces. And Im sorry if i assumed the majority of americans thought that it was our war, but many of my classmates seem to think so. I am just making a point

Tokugawa77

by casualties, i meant dead. That may have cuased some confusion. It was a mistake on my part

Well, obviously not. It's the WORLD's War.

Again I say many people who I know think that we were the main beligerent in the war.

Correct my stats if you can, riseagainst12. I want to know what you think

by casualties, i meant dead. That may have cuased some confusion. It was a mistake on my part

Tokugawa77

by casualties, i meant dead. That may have cuased some confusion. It was a mistake on my part

Tokugawa77

No i am refering to military dead. and it is not that big of a mistake.

Most people do know that America was not the only country to suffer hundreds of thousands of casualties in war, at least anyone who has studied it. That does not mean, however, that American didn't play a big role in it.LZ71

No i am refering to military dead. and it is not that big of a mistake.

Tokugawa77

becuase the civilian dead are not an indication of how much a country contributed to the war. It is just a matter of geography. If america was closer to germany, it would have been bombed just as much as brittain but probably would still have lost the same amount of military dead.

[QUOTE="LZ71"]Most people do know that America was not the only country to suffer hundreds of thousands of casualties in war, at least anyone who has studied it. That does not mean, however, that American didn't play a big role in it.psychobrew

[QUOTE="LZ71"]Most people do know that America was not the only country to suffer hundreds of thousands of casualties in war, at least anyone who has studied it. That does not mean, however, that American didn't play a big role in it.psychobrew

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="LZ71"]Most people do know that America was not the only country to suffer hundreds of thousands of casualties in war, at least anyone who has studied it. That does not mean, however, that American didn't play a big role in it.RiseAgainst12

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="LZ71"]Most people do know that America was not the only country to suffer hundreds of thousands of casualties in war, at least anyone who has studied it. That does not mean, however, that American didn't play a big role in it.LZ71

The US played a huge role in D-Day. Without US forces, would D-Day have been successful? Would it have even been attempted? The Russians would have defeated Germany. The question is how far in to Europe would they have gone. The Russians even had their eyes on Japan toward the end, which is one reason we wanted to end the conflict on that front as soon as possible. Then again, the Russians didn't keep any Chinese territory, so who knows. They might have decided to let France and other countries who were fighting the Germans be.

Threads like these are the reason why I don't usuallyhang around in the OT Discussion.

Threads like these are the reason why I don't usuallyhang around in the OT Discussion.

magiciandude

..... It was World War II. Who ever said it was America's war?

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="psychobrew"] So what would have happened if the USA didn't enter the war on the European front? I think Britain would have successfully defended its borders and Russia would be in control of the rest of Europe (at least most of it up until the 90s -- Britain may have captured parts of France).psychobrew

[QUOTE="LZ71"][QUOTE="psychobrew"] So what would have happened if the USA didn't enter the war on the European front? I think Britain would have successfully defended its borders and Russia would be in control of the rest of Europe (at least most of it up until the 90s -- Britain may have captured parts of France).psychobrew

The US played a huge role in D-Day. Without US forces, would D-Day have been successful? Would it have even been attempted? The Russians would have defeated Germany. The question is how far in to Europe would they have gone. The Russians even had their eyes on Japan toward the end, which is one reason we wanted to end the conflict on that front as soon as possible. Then again, the Russians didn't keep any Chinese territory, so who knows. They might have decided to let France and other countries who were fighting the Germans be.

Threads like these are the reason why I don't usuallyhang around in the OT Discussion.

[QUOTE="LZ71"][QUOTE="psychobrew"] So what would have happened if the USA didn't enter the war on the European front? I think Britain would have successfully defended its borders and Russia would be in control of the rest of Europe (at least most of it up until the 90s -- Britain may have captured parts of France).psychobrew

The US played a huge role in D-Day. Without US forces, would D-Day have been successful? Would it have even been attempted? The Russians would have defeated Germany. The question is how far in to Europe would they have gone. The Russians even had their eyes on Japan toward the end, which is one reason we wanted to end the conflict on that front as soon as possible. Then again, the Russians didn't keep any Chinese territory, so who knows. They might have decided to let France and other countries who were fighting the Germans be.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

[QUOTE="LZ71"] On the European front, it's hard to say. Near the end of Stalingrad, the Russians were getting things together, and were ready to push back the Germans. And at this time, the crossing of the English Channel had failed, but the British still hadn't fought back for Europe. When D-Day came though, it really put a hurting on the Germans, as they now had to deal with a full-scale assualt coming from both the east and west. Without the push from the France, I think that the war would have lasted longer than it did, but ultimately, the Russians would be able to defeat the Germans. Of course, this is a huge "What if" question, and no answer is more right than the other.LZ71

The US played a huge role in D-Day. Without US forces, would D-Day have been successful? Would it have even been attempted? The Russians would have defeated Germany. The question is how far in to Europe would they have gone. The Russians even had their eyes on Japan toward the end, which is one reason we wanted to end the conflict on that front as soon as possible. Then again, the Russians didn't keep any Chinese territory, so who knows. They might have decided to let France and other countries who were fighting the Germans be.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Threads like these are the reason why I don't usuallyhang around in the OT Discussion.

magiciandude

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Threads like these are the reason why I don't usuallyhang around in the OT Discussion.

magiciandude

to be fair, there was a troll in here a lil while ago that was bumping year old threads for a good hour, hence they locked threads.

[QUOTE="LZ71"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]

The US played a huge role in D-Day. Without US forces, would D-Day have been successful? Would it have even been attempted? The Russians would have defeated Germany. The question is how far in to Europe would they have gone. The Russians even had their eyes on Japan toward the end, which is one reason we wanted to end the conflict on that front as soon as possible. Then again, the Russians didn't keep any Chinese territory, so who knows. They might have decided to let France and other countries who were fighting the Germans be.

RiseAgainst12