Would the US gvt allow an American Muslim to conduct dialogue w. terrorists?

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[QUOTE="rimnet00"]UrbanSpartan, clearly I have already stated that my life is not the issue here. I have also stated that I disagree with your perspective on the human psyche. This is a proposal that we have not yet attempted. If it is something that will result in both sides putting down their guns, and come to a resolution, I am all for it. cliff122316

I'm sure you understand the nature of the enemy, why do you think they would want peace? .

I don't think they are doing this out of revenge.

[QUOTE="dicpunch"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="dicpunch"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]UrbanSpartan, clearly I have already stated that my life is not the issue here. I have also stated that I disagree with your perspective on the human psyche. This is a proposal that we have not yet attempted. If it is something that will result in both sides putting down their guns, and come to a resolution, I am all for it. rimnet00

I'm sure you understand the nature of the enemy, why do you think they would want peace? .

Are we talking about peace in Iraq, with the insurgency, or peace with those who we are fighting with in the War on Terror? Just for clarification....

There isn't a conflict between Islam and the West,  this is a conflict between radical Islam and freedom.  Their idea of peace is so far from what we understand there isn't even a table to sit down.  This could end peacefully if the millions and millions of moderate, and even conservative, Muslims fought to get their idenitiy back. 

[QUOTE="cliff122316"][QUOTE="dicpunch"][QUOTE="cliff122316"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="dicpunch"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]UrbanSpartan, clearly I have already stated that my life is not the issue here. I have also stated that I disagree with your perspective on the human psyche. This is a proposal that we have not yet attempted. If it is something that will result in both sides putting down their guns, and come to a resolution, I am all for it. rimnet00

I'm sure you understand the nature of the enemy, why do you think they would want peace? .

I don't think they are doing this out of revenge.

[QUOTE="dicpunch"][QUOTE="cliff122316"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="dicpunch"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]UrbanSpartan, clearly I have already stated that my life is not the issue here. I have also stated that I disagree with your perspective on the human psyche. This is a proposal that we have not yet attempted. If it is something that will result in both sides putting down their guns, and come to a resolution, I am all for it. cliff122316

I'm sure you understand the nature of the enemy, why do you think they would want peace? .

I don't think they are doing this out of revenge.

It isn't something we've done it's that they want to impose Shariah Law on us.

There isn't a conflict between Islam and the West, this is a conflict between radical Islam and freedom. Their idea of peace is so far from what we understand there isn't even a table to sit down. This could end peacefully if the millions and millions of moderate, and even conservative, Muslims fought to get their idenitiy back. dicpunch

[QUOTE="cliff122316"] hmm i see and agree. i suppose i do agree with your plan and it actually seems like it has a chance to change some people's opinions. good luck getting an audience with these groups though, since i find it hard to believe the US has an line of contact with them, if we did we would understand each other better than we dorimnet00

There isn't a conflict between Islam and the West, this is a conflict between radical Islam and freedom. Their idea of peace is so far from what we understand there isn't even a table to sit down. This could end peacefully if the millions and millions of moderate, and even conservative, Muslims fought to get their idenitiy back. dicpunch

You are just as much of an enemy and maybe even more so than I am to these people.  Part of the issue is that we view peace as a postive and they would view it as a failure.  The bottom line is that they view peace with us in two ways:  our dying or our subjugation.  Not a good start to healing process.     

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="cliff122316"] hmm i see and agree. i suppose i do agree with your plan and it actually seems like it has a chance to change some people's opinions. good luck getting an audience with these groups though, since i find it hard to believe the US has an line of contact with them, if we did we would understand each other better than we dodicpunch

There isn't a conflict between Islam and the West, this is a conflict between radical Islam and freedom. Their idea of peace is so far from what we understand there isn't even a table to sit down. This could end peacefully if the millions and millions of moderate, and even conservative, Muslims fought to get their idenitiy back. dicpunch

You are just as much of an enemy and maybe even more so than I am to these people. Part of the issue is that we view peace as a postive and they would view it as a failure. The bottom line is that they view peace with us in two ways: our dying or our subjugation. Not a good start to healing process.

[QUOTE="dicpunch"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="cliff122316"] hmm i see and agree. i suppose i do agree with your plan and it actually seems like it has a chance to change some people's opinions. good luck getting an audience with these groups though, since i find it hard to believe the US has an line of contact with them, if we did we would understand each other better than we dorimnet00

There isn't a conflict between Islam and the West, this is a conflict between radical Islam and freedom. Their idea of peace is so far from what we understand there isn't even a table to sit down. This could end peacefully if the millions and millions of moderate, and even conservative, Muslims fought to get their idenitiy back. dicpunch

You are just as much of an enemy and maybe even more so than I am to these people. Part of the issue is that we view peace as a postive and they would view it as a failure. The bottom line is that they view peace with us in two ways: our dying or our subjugation. Not a good start to healing process.

They have already answered the question.

Portion of a letter to the American people from OBL 2002...

What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?

(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.

a) The religion of the Unification of God; of freedom from associating partners with Him, and rejection of this; of complete love of Him, the Exalted; of complete submission to His Laws; and of the discarding of all the opinions, orders, theories and religions which contradict with the religion He sent down to His Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Islam is the religion of all the prophets, and makes no distinction between them –  peace be upon them all.

It is to this religion that we call you; the seal of all the previous religions. It is the religion of Unification of God, sincerity, the best of  manners, righteousness, mercy, honour, purity, and piety.  It is the religion of showing kindness to others, establishing justice between them, granting   them their rights, and defending the oppressed and the persecuted. It is the religion of enjoining the good and forbidding the evil with the hand, tongue and heart. It is the religion of Jihad in the way of Allah so that Allah’s   Word and religion reign Supreme. And it is the religion of unity and agreement on the obedience to Allah, and total equality between all people,  without regarding their colour, sex, or language.

b) It is the religion whose book – the Quran – will remained preserved and unchanged, after the other Divine books and messages have been changed. The Quran is the miracle until the Day of Judgment. Allah has challenged anyone to bring a book like the Quran or even ten verses like it.

(2) The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you.
        
a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.

We call you to all of this that you may be freed from that which you have become caught up in; that you may be freed from the deceptive lies that you  are a great nation, that your leaders spread amongst you to conceal from you the despicable state to which you have reached.   

b) It is saddening to tell you that you are the worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind:

You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator.  You flee from the  embarrassing question posed to you: How is it possible for Allah the Almighty to create His creation, grant them power over all the creatures and land, grant them all the amenities of life, and then deny them that which they are most in need of: knowledge of the laws which govern their lives?