Would this be considered police harassment of some sort?

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for _R34LiTY_
_R34LiTY_

3331

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 _R34LiTY_
Member since 2008 • 3331 Posts

My registration on my Mark VIII has been suspended since July 26th '11 - Nov 26th '11, which is the earliest date i will be eligible to end the suspension.

Since the beginning of August, my vehicle, which has been parked in a private parking lot of the apt complex i live since July 26, has been getting tickets for invalid registration almost every other day. I've been able to catch up with some of the sheriffs as they were issuing the tickets to show them the letter from the state notifying me of the timed suspension on my Mark to arrogantly prove that there's no need to issue a ticket that it is going to be nullified in the end.

As it turns out, even though I've taped the letter to the front grill and back trunk above the plates and inside the front windshield by the wipers where they leave the tickets, I've still managed to amount 31 tickets so far for invalid registration, each of em asking for a $50 handout, most of them issued by the same 3 star #s I had personally spoken to.

I'm awaiting response from an email I sent to a law firm that was involved in a recent class action lawsuit Cook County with a $55 million settlement for unlawful strip searches at the county jail. Maybe I can add this to their rep sheet.

In the meantime, what do yous think?

Harassment, toss Cook County another class action lawsuit or "shut up and pay the damn fines! :x " ?

Avatar image for deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa

8315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#2 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
Member since 2009 • 8315 Posts

Sue, don't pay up. Clearly they know if you have talked to them.

Avatar image for deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
deactivated-6127ced9bcba0

31700

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#3 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
Member since 2006 • 31700 Posts

Hm...I was going to say yep, this may be harassment, but then I asked myself this: Why hasn't he taken the plates off the vehicle?

Having plates on means you intend to use that vehicle. Taking the places off and leaving it parked will prevent further tickets since you have no perceived intention of using the vehicle.

Avatar image for _R34LiTY_
_R34LiTY_

3331

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 _R34LiTY_
Member since 2008 • 3331 Posts

They'd have a vehicle with no plates and would then tow the vehicle regardless of the parking sticker, as one sheriff told while i was trying to discuss this with him.

It's been parked in the private parking lot since the 26th of July. I've been using the other vehicle to get to and from while I anxiously wait for the 26th of this month to come so i can drive the Mark again.

It's why I say the sheriff's are operating with something other than logic because they should not be coming onto private property unless they're called for assistance, much less to ask for donations(issue tickets). The patrolling that should be done(if any) is by the towing company to check for vehicles that don't have the parking sticker for the parking lot.

But here's where it gets kind of shady. On 4 occasions I found the car in the morning with two tickets by same 3 star #s that have been spamming me. Say for example 1 would be for 9/12/11 at 11:42pm and then the other one being issued at 1:19am 9/13/11 & placed right next to the other ticket. Best part of it all is that on one of these double ticket nights, both tickets that were issued were by the same sheriff!!

What in the world are these "sheriffs" thinking to engage in this insolent behaviour?

Is why I'm eagerly awaiting to hear from the law firm i emailed because regardless of whether or not my plates are suspended, I don't think they can legally do that kind of stuff.

Avatar image for k2theswiss
k2theswiss

16599

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 1

#5 k2theswiss
Member since 2007 • 16599 Posts
1: why they on privet propriety issuing tickets? If it was on the road then yes. IF your landloard has a issue all he had to do is call a towing company and he wouldn't have to pay a dime.
Avatar image for Fightingfan
Fightingfan

38011

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6 Fightingfan
Member since 2010 • 38011 Posts

I had a problem like this too, I had my Mustang parked on my lawn primed and ugly because I was rebuilding the engine. my dumb neighbor called the DMV because I didn't have a tag on it yet since I was rebuilding the engine, then a few weeks later a police officer tells me to move my Mustang he tells me"it's not drive-able" so I have to move it and I tell him bullsh** it's registered that's all that matters.

Avatar image for PunkAntiHero
PunkAntiHero

628

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 PunkAntiHero
Member since 2011 • 628 Posts
If I was you I would not pay the fines, I would sue the sheriff department.
Avatar image for wolfbm
wolfbm

630

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 17

User Lists: 0

#8 wolfbm
Member since 2002 • 630 Posts
The only thing I can tell you is apparently your "private" lot isn't as private as you may think. If it was truely private it would be treated as if this was just a parking space behind your house. Apparently who ever owns the lot is purposly letting the police in to check everything out...if it was truely private they would have their own security. In the mean time, trying to sue would get you no where since they are honestly ticketing you for having a car with an invalid registration..which you admit it is. That is all the court will need. Trust me I rarely have love for county police but I don't see this ending good. My advice, have your car towed to a friend or family members house until you are able to drive it again (or put it literally in a storage garage). At this point the police know your car is there and will continue to check if you have moved it or resolved your registration issue.
Avatar image for Celldrax
Celldrax

15053

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 Celldrax
Member since 2005 • 15053 Posts

***k em. Nuff said.

Avatar image for junglist101
junglist101

5517

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10 junglist101
Member since 2007 • 5517 Posts

I had found a great forum for legal questions in which you should get some good advice. Expertlaw.com. I'm sure you'll get better advice there:P

Avatar image for kittensRjerks
kittensRjerks

3802

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11 kittensRjerks
Member since 2010 • 3802 Posts

I don't see how the fuzz can ticket a car for suspended registration if it's parked. if it's on the road sure. but if it's being stored they have no right to ticket you. Time to fight the law.

Avatar image for Planet_Pluto
Planet_Pluto

2235

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#12 Planet_Pluto
Member since 2011 • 2235 Posts

When a registration is suspended, aren't the plates supposed to be removed?

Avatar image for LJS9502_basic
LJS9502_basic

180251

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13 LJS9502_basic  Online
Member since 2003 • 180251 Posts
Depends on local laws. In some jurisdictions tickets can be given for no registration on private property. Since you are getting the tickets....I'd bet that is the case where you live so no...it's not harassment.
Avatar image for ionusX
ionusX

25780

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 0

#14 ionusX
Member since 2009 • 25780 Posts

Depends on local laws. In some jurisdictions tickets can be given for no registration on private property. Since you are getting the tickets....I'd bet that is the case where you live so no...it's not harassment.LJS9502_basic

however you could probably still fight em all. and win about half - 75% of em

Avatar image for LJS9502_basic
LJS9502_basic

180251

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#15 LJS9502_basic  Online
Member since 2003 • 180251 Posts

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Depends on local laws. In some jurisdictions tickets can be given for no registration on private property. Since you are getting the tickets....I'd bet that is the case where you live so no...it's not harassment.ionusX

however you could probably still fight em all. and win about half - 75% of em

Not if it's in violation of local ordinances....
Avatar image for _R34LiTY_
_R34LiTY_

3331

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#17 _R34LiTY_
Member since 2008 • 3331 Posts

The only thing I can tell you is apparently your "private" lot isn't as private as you may think. If it was truely private it would be treated as if this was just a parking space behind your house. Apparently who ever owns the lot is purposly letting the police in to check everything out...if it was truely private they would have their own security. In the mean time, trying to sue would get you no where since they are honestly ticketing you for having a car with an invalid registration..which you admit it is. That is all the court will need. Trust me I rarely have love for county police but I don't see this ending good. My advice, have your car towed to a friend or family members house until you are able to drive it again (or put it literally in a storage garage). At this point the police know your car is there and will continue to check if you have moved it or resolved your registration issue. wolfbm

Oh, it's private property alright, as I'm assuming that's what the towing sign means that he landlord has up on the side of her building about no overnight parking in private lot.

Regardless, that's not a big deal to me, it's more that.... "How do the sheriff's expect me to fix my registration if I have a letter sent to me by the state indicating that my vehicle registration will become/had became suspended on july 26th and will remain so until nov 26th, which is the earliest date the letter says I'm eligible to end the suspension by paying some money 30 days in advance prior to Nov 26th, which I did and also paid for 2 more years of SR22. It's just a matter of waiting since everything is in place for me to drive my Mark again on the 27th.

I doubt that means that within this 3 month period, any sheriff of Cook County can just waltz up in this lot and continue to run a train on my car for something the state had enacted and even allowing for an officer to issue two tickets for the same "offense" within a 2 hour period. I'll find out soon enough.

Avatar image for UniverseIX
UniverseIX

989

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 UniverseIX
Member since 2011 • 989 Posts
seems to me like he's camping you
Avatar image for UniverseIX
UniverseIX

989

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#20 UniverseIX
Member since 2011 • 989 Posts
You keep saying the "sheriff's" (assuming you mean Sheriffs) are ticketing you. First off, there is only one Sheriff in Cook County, and I doubt that he is ticketing your car. Why don't you try contacting his office for some answers? Good luck.thegerg
I think he means the Sheriffs office, or department. I'm not sure what you'd call it but the Sheriff does get to hire deputies to work under his department.
Avatar image for Tokugawa77
Tokugawa77

1554

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 0

#21 Tokugawa77
Member since 2009 • 1554 Posts

Put the care into a storage facility:P

Avatar image for BrianB0422
BrianB0422

1636

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 12

User Lists: 0

#23 BrianB0422
Member since 2009 • 1636 Posts
All I know is that here in Pennsylvania you must keep a current registration on every working automobile, whether or not you are able to drive it. If your state has something similar, then you are screwed.
Avatar image for Dr_Manfattan
Dr_Manfattan

1363

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#24 Dr_Manfattan
Member since 2009 • 1363 Posts

[QUOTE="UniverseIX"][QUOTE="thegerg"]You keep saying the "sheriff's" (assuming you mean Sheriffs) are ticketing you. First off, there is only one Sheriff in Cook County, and I doubt that he is ticketing your car. Why don't you try contacting his office for some answers? Good luck.thegerg
I think he means the Sheriffs office, or department. I'm not sure what you'd call it but the Sheriff does get to hire deputies to work under his department.

Statements like "It's why I say the sheriff's are operating with something other than logic because they should not be coming onto private property unless they're called for assistance" suggest otherwise. If he were talking about the department he would say "is" instead of "were", "it" instead of "they", and "it's" instead of "they're."

or maybe he is talking about the individuals in the sheriffs office and not the office itself, i would have thought that was obvious by him constantly referring to individual officers.

Avatar image for Dr_Manfattan
Dr_Manfattan

1363

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#26 Dr_Manfattan
Member since 2009 • 1363 Posts

[QUOTE="Dr_Manfattan"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] Statements like "It's why I say the sheriff's are operating with something other than logic because they should not be coming onto private property unless they're called for assistance" suggest otherwise. If he were talking about the department he would say "is" instead of "were", "it" instead of "they", and "it's" instead of "they're."thegerg

or maybe he is talking about the individuals in the sheriffs office and not the office itself, i would have thought that was obvious by him constantly referring to individual officers.

Exactly my point. I'm trying to help OP understand that there is only one Sheriff in his county and he's (most likely) not the one ticketing his car. I suggested that he contact the Sheriff's office in an effort to get some answers.

my point was that his wording was correct for talking about individuals in the sheriffs department. and yes you would think contacting the sheriffs office would work but if he has already spoken personally to 3 of the officers i wouldn't hold out much hope.