Would you continue a pregnancy knowing there would be disorders?

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#1 GatlingHammer
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What disorders would be ok? Which ones would not? I know a family that willingly had a child that had Down's Syndrome. Could you do that? What about Angelman Syndrome or Lesch-Nyan or even Dwarfism?

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#2 Lonelynight
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I would get an abortion.
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#3 CrystalFox
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Nope. I'd invite her to a Karate class and show her my mad stomach-kick skills.

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#4 GatlingHammer
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I would get an abortion.Lonelynight
For any disorder? Would you be willing to live with slight MR or Fragile X Syndrome?
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#5 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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That's a rough question.
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#6 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]I would get an abortion.GatlingHammer
For any disorder? Would you be willing to live with slight MR or Fragile X Syndrome?

Depends on the seriousness.
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#7 Atmanix
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The tests to see if there are going to be disorders aren't 100% accurate. I would hate the thought that I might have destroyed a perfectly healthy life because a test was wrong. I'd still continue with the pregnancy.

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#8 GatlingHammer
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[QUOTE="GatlingHammer"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]I would get an abortion.Lonelynight
For any disorder? Would you be willing to live with slight MR or Fragile X Syndrome?

Depends on the seriousness.

Well, what would be too serious? What wouldn't be serious enough? I've mentioned several disorders already which ones could you live with your child having?
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#9 wstfld
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Abortion. I'm too poor to afford to take care of a kid like that.
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#10 GatlingHammer
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The tests to see if there are going to be disorders aren't 100% accurate. I would hate the thought that I might have destroyed a perfectly healthy life because a test was wrong. I'd still continue with the pregnancy.

Atmanix
Well the screening tests aren't 100% accurate. Not even close, but the further evaluations and studies are as close to 100% as medical science can get. Or do you mean that you wouldn't be willing to take even the miniscule chance that the child would be healthy?
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#11 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="GatlingHammer"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="GatlingHammer"] For any disorder? Would you be willing to live with slight MR or Fragile X Syndrome?

Depends on the seriousness.

Well, what would be too serious? What wouldn't be serious enough? I've mentioned several disorders already which ones could you live with your child having?

I have no idea what those conditions are like and I have no desire to read about them now. So I will think about this when I have pregnant child that has a disorder.
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#12 BiancaDK
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Great topic, TC. (:

Unfortunately I'd have no idea unless I, God forbid, end up in said situation. My immediate reaction was ,,do not want'', but that impulse could easily stem from the fact I don't want a pregnancy, period.

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#13 Ceraby
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Continue with the pregnancy. For the months to come before the baby's birth, I'd be preparing myself on how to better rear a child with predicted disorder.

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#14 Atmanix
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[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

The tests to see if there are going to be disorders aren't 100% accurate. I would hate the thought that I might have destroyed a perfectly healthy life because a test was wrong. I'd still continue with the pregnancy.

GatlingHammer

Well the screening tests aren't 100% accurate. Not even close, but the further evaluations and studies are as close to 100% as medical science can get. Or do you mean that you wouldn't be willing to take even the miniscule chance that the child would be healthy?

I was referring to the screening tests mostly. Honestly though I'd still have an issue with it even if they were 99.8% correct. Abortion just doesn't sit well with me.

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That's a rough question.Jandurin
It is. It all depends...no black and white response from me on this. I am very happy I will never have to deal with that.
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

Great topic, TC. (:

Unfortunately I'd have no idea unless I, God forbid, end up in said situation. My immediate reaction was ,,do not want'', but that impulse could easily stem from the fact I don't want a pregnancy, period.

hah. I went through that same thought process and came to the conclusion that small children, disabled or not, are damn scary :S
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#17 BiancaDK
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hah. I went through that same thought process and came to the conclusion that small children, disabled or not, are damn scary :SJandurin
Loud noises wrapped in self-regenerating filth.
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#18 Atmanix
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]hah. I went through that same thought process and came to the conclusion that small children, disabled or not, are damn scary :SBiancaDK
Loud noises wrapped in self-regenerating filth.

HEY! My son is ... well no, that's a lie. He's extremely loud and annoying when he wants to be.

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#19 GatlingHammer
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It's a tough question because even within a family trying to do the right thing the issue is ambiguous. I usually state what I would do in the OP but I couldn't in this situation. Even something like dwarfism where they could live a perfectly normal and productive life I wonder if I could continue that pregnancy.

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#20 Atmanix
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It's a tough question because even within a family trying to do the right thing the issue is ambiguous. I usually state what I would do in the OP but I couldn't in this situation. Even something like dwarfism where they could live a perfectly normal and productive life I wonder if I could continue that pregnancy.

GatlingHammer

Dwarfism isn't something to abort over in my opinion.

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#21 GatlingHammer
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[QUOTE="GatlingHammer"]

It's a tough question because even within a family trying to do the right thing the issue is ambiguous. I usually state what I would do in the OP but I couldn't in this situation. Even something like dwarfism where they could live a perfectly normal and productive life I wonder if I could continue that pregnancy.

Atmanix

Dwarfism isn't something to abort over in my opinion.

I'm not saying that placed in that situation I would, I'm just saying that even something as non-life threatening as dwarfism would give me pause.
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#22 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Being a man, I really feel I have no choice in the matter imo.. But I would promote a abortion if the fetus was showing severe signs of deformity and other such things.. Though I really don't plan on having a child.. More then likely I would rather adopt if anything.
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#23 Atmanix
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[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

[QUOTE="GatlingHammer"]

It's a tough question because even within a family trying to do the right thing the issue is ambiguous. I usually state what I would do in the OP but I couldn't in this situation. Even something like dwarfism where they could live a perfectly normal and productive life I wonder if I could continue that pregnancy.

GatlingHammer

Dwarfism isn't something to abort over in my opinion.

I'm not saying that placed in that situation I would, I'm just saying that even something as non-life threatening as dwarfism would give me pause.

I know, I wasn't saying you did, sorry if it came off that way. I was just throwing out my opinion on it.

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#24 mr_poodles123
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Heck no. I personally believe that any member of society that is not fit for working should be discarded of. They are just using up air and space, for no benefit to the human race.
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#25 kidsmelly
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That's actually real hard. I think people should have the right to abort but I can never see myself doing it....Although bringing a child into this world knowing their life would be hard day in and day out would be rough depending on the disorder.

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#26 Engrish_Major
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As a man, I'm sure there would be plenty of disorders in the event that I were to become pregnant.
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#27 DEVILinIRON
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I would definitely consider abortion as an option.

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#28 kittensRjerks
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Continue with the pregnancy. For the months to come before the baby's birth, I'd be preparing myself on how to better rear a child with predicted disorder.

Ceraby

I would do this aswell.

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#29 Toriko42
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Nope, not gonna let my kid have that
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#30 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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I would if it was some minor physical issue. For mental or extreme handicaps? Absolutely not, in fact I think forcing someone to live through that is torture in itself and killing the fetus could be considered an act of mercy. Not a chick though so thankfully I never have to worry about that.

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#31 tocklestein2005
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It depends on the disorder. I also know people who have a child with Down's Syndrome. It is really not that bad compared to some. I would probably want to get an abortion if it was something really serious, but that's also up to the mother.

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I'd have an abortion if I knew my child would be born with serious, incurable disorders.

If you're talking stuff like Autism, then no. I would just deal with it.

If you're talking deformity, severe mental retardation or something that would give them and myself a hard life of alienation where they would be completely dependent on other people or even mahcines to live, then I would just have an abortion.

I think it's torture on both the child and yourself to have to endure something like that for the rest of your and their lives.

I'd have an abortion and most likely wouldn't even try to have another child after that.

Sounds harsh, but it's nobody's choice but mine.

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#33 Zeepje
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I'm not a woman lol but the chance that my children would get dyslexia is pretty big, I'm also psychotic and when looking at my other family members there's a pretty big chance that my children would get some kind of a psychotic disorder. But even if I was a woman then I wouldn't get an abortion.
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#34 zmbi_gmr
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I would not abort over a disorder. I just couldn't do it. Understandably there are many disorders that I would consider abortion for, but I don't think I could go through with it.

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#35 funkymonkey4710
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Very tough question.. I am a guy and gay so having children will probably be something I plan for not something that happens out of the blue, but I have no idea what I would do in that situation. Perhaps if I were a woman and I knew my child would go through a horrible life because of said disorder then I would abort. If it is something that because of new technology and acceptance among society then I would probably keep the child. That is a tough choice though.

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#36 Deihjan
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I'm not sure I could support a child with any disorders in the mental-region. I already have enough on my own plate with my own mind, so if I ever got a kid that had a severe syndrome/disorder, I'd probably get an abortion. Dwarfism isn't really a problem that haunts the child forever, like some mental issues or other physical flaws would, so unless my child was going to become a complete cripple and has to depend on other people for the rest of his/her life, I'd see it as an easier way out.. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't get an abortion if the child wasn't going to get blue eyes, but the body already aborts a child that has a lesser chance at life. It's natures way of getting rid of the weak, but medicine has become so much better that we can keep foetuses in a healthy condition so the natural miscarriage wouldn't happen.
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#37 T_P_O
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For this question, are the males supposed to pretend they own a functioning uterus? If so, then I'd abort for most serious disorders. I could handle smaller learning disorders or slight MR.

If not, then I dunno, the woman carrying the child can make the decision and I'll support regardless.

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#38 MAILER_DAEMON
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You really need to slow down on making new threads, ok? You're showing a very familiar pattern... Anyway, I can't see myself ever seriously considering an abortion unless if the life or serious health issues of my child's mother was at stake. I can't speak for the decision(s) I'd make once actually becoming a father, but depending on the disability, I would consider adoption.
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That's a rough question.Jandurin
sure is
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#40 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]You really need to slow down on making new threads, ok? You're showing a very familiar pattern... Anyway, I can't see myself ever seriously considering an abortion unless if the life or serious health issues of my child's mother was at stake. I can't speak for the decision(s) I'd make once actually becoming a father, but depending on the disability, I would consider adoption.

Let's imagine for a second, that you and I were having a child. Due to both of us having a history with mental issues... and me with my possible ADD (which is 30% chance for the child receiving that) the child would have severe problems with learning, being social and such stuff. The child would live a happy life, yes, but with such high chances of such very painful mental instabilities, I'm sure you'd think twice. And I can't believe I just made that theory. :|
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#41 Diablo-B
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I would lean to discontinue the pregnancy. A child with a disability is going to have a number of hardships to deal with. In addition, I'm middle class which means that all the costs of the medical bills will fall on my lap, no gov't aid. Medical bills are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the US. Plus I would have to deal with the stresses of the issue.
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#42 LaPiyamasDeGato
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That is a really tough question, I'd have to discuss it with the mother of our child and ultimately put it in her hands. I'd feel kind of guilty bringin a life into this world that was handicapped, but I would also feel guilty ending the life before it ever got a chance....
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[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]You really need to slow down on making new threads, ok? You're showing a very familiar pattern... Anyway, I can't see myself ever seriously considering an abortion unless if the life or serious health issues of my child's mother was at stake. I can't speak for the decision(s) I'd make once actually becoming a father, but depending on the disability, I would consider adoption.

Let's imagine for a second, that you and I were having a child. Due to both of us having a history with mental issues... and me with my possible ADD (which is 30% chance for the child receiving that) the child would have severe problems with learning, being social and such stuff. The child would live a happy life, yes, but with such high chances of such very painful mental instabilities, I'm sure you'd think twice. And I can't believe I just made that theory. :|

Just looking at the hypotheticals of the situation (o_o') :P I still don't think I'd seriously consider an abortion. Part of it is that with me I've never been clinically diagnosed, and I have ever reason to think that my past depression issues are due to events, triggers, and things that have hurt in life, like divorce and being bullied in elementary school. Yet, if my issues are genetically-based, as it does run in my mom's side of the family, then that risk exists for any and all children that I might have. If I had one with you, then the risk would increase, but there's no guarantee. If I were to worry about the risk for everything, then the alternative would be to never have kids. One thing I've come to realize about mental instabilities is that everyone has something, genetic or otherwise, that tries to define their lives. Whatever that may be, be it a physical handicap, a tendency to get broken bones, recurring bouts of depression, being truly lonely despite sleeping with anything with legs every day, being a workaholic, working out too much, or really anything else, it's something that a person can either choose to submit to, ignore, or overcome. Sometimes my issue still pops up, but I'm a better person for choosing to overcome it. To me, aborting a child due to the possibility of mental issues... sure it would pop up, but in the end, doing that to try and spare a child from possible depression or ADD would be like trying to spare the child from any hardships of life. Good parents do their best to give their children good lives, free from hardships that they had to face, but even if those aren't there, then there will be something else they have to deal with. Besides, the things you and I have suffered from can't be diagnosed in the womb. :)
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#44 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Of course I wouldn't abort the child. I would want the child to live so he can have a choice.
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#45 joesh89
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I don't know.. it would be a joint decision, but I have no idea until I would be in that situation. And I plan on never having children.

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Of course I wouldn't abort the child. I would want the child to live so he can have a choice.Genetic_Code
so he can have a choice of what? Whether or not he enjoys the way his brain works? Whether or not he should off himself? Do you condone suicide? 'cause your post would make more sense if you did
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No. If I'm going to go to the trouble of having a child (especially since having a child is NOT something I desire), I want it to be healthy. I really could not handle having a mentally retarded child or anything like that. I'm just not the type of person who could deal with that. I'm not against abortion, so yes, if I knew that there would be major complications or problems with the child, I would abort it.
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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]Of course I wouldn't abort the child. I would want the child to live so he can have a choice.Jandurin
so he can have a choice of what? Whether or not he enjoys the way his brain works? Whether or not he should off himself? Do you condone suicide? 'cause your post would make more sense if you did

Yeah, I though the same thing. But chose to do a mental shrug rather than reply. :P
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]so he can have a choice of what? So he can have a choice whether or not he can live his life. He may not be able to form a thought to give his consent to the abortion, but he still needs to be allowed to live long enough to have a choice. Whether or not he enjoys the way his brain works? If he wants, sure. Whether or not he should off himself? Yes, if that's what he desires. Do you condone suicide? No, but suicide can't always be stopped. 'cause your post would make more sense if you did

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#50 EJ902
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Depends on the condition. People with dwarfism can still lead full and happy lives, so I wouldn't abort a baby if it showed signs of showing dwarfism. Things like harlequin ichthyosis are awful things to go through so I'd consider abortion in that case. But then again, there are even people with harlequin ichthyosis who have survived beyond being a baby (many babies die of it), what would they think of the suggestion of aborting babies with it? It's a difficult question to ask. I usually don't agree with abortion and believe that considerable thought must go into the decision. It's difficult for me to know what I'd decide until I actually end up in that situation myself.