[QUOTE="Jandurin"]so he can have a choice of what? So he can have a choice whether or not he can live his life. He may not be able to form a thought to give his consent to the abortion, but he still needs to be allowed to live long enough to have a choice. Whether or not he enjoys the way his brain works? If he wants, sure. Whether or not he should off himself? Yes, if that's what he desires. Do you condone suicide? No, but suicide can't always be stopped. 'cause your post would make more sense if you did I agree with this, if I had an unhappy child with some kind of disorder then I would do everything to make him/her enjoy life again. But if it doesn't work out in the end and my child really wants to commit suicide. Then I would hold his/her hand without a doubt and stroke his/her head while he/she slowly drifts away. I'm not anti-abortion or anything, but I would want my child to have a choice.
I wouldn't go up to someone with Downs Syndrome and kill them because their life's supposedly not worth living. I'm not in favor of doing that before they're born either.
My belief prevent me from going straight to abortion, but realistically speaking it might be the best options for everyone involves, depending on the specific deformities
It would be a heck of a card life dealt me with...
[QUOTE="HAHAITHINKNOT"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]even if I knew the kid would end up killing a billion people I still wouldn't consider ending the pregnancy.EMOEVOLUTION
My parents and their doctors thought I might actually be dead a few times when my mom was pregnant with me, I was born with a few minor problems, and one major, but not terminating the pregnancy was the best choice they could have made; I hope I would do the same.
I'd want the pregnancy continued. Heck, I wish to adopt children so that people won't do abortions, why would I go against the very thing I wish to do?
[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]No; I would get an abortion, because if the child was born, it would suffer.EMOEVOLUTION
you don't really know that, but okay. Of course I don't. But if it is almost certain that the child would be born with a crippling defect, I would consider aborting it.
Well, I'm a dood. But for the sake of discussion, I'll play along with the hypothetical. In short, I don't think I would abort the pregnancy under any condition except for where the life of the mother is under considerable threat.
[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]No; I would get an abortion, because if the child was born, it would suffer.ghoklebutter
you don't really know that, but okay. Of course I don't. But if it is almost certain that the child would be born with a crippling defect, I would consider aborting it. I don't see the point. Let them decide if suffering is too much to bare.
[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] you don't really know that, but okay. EMOEVOLUTION
Of course I don't. But if it is almost certain that the child would be born with a crippling defect, I would consider aborting it. I don't see the point. Let them decide if suffering is too much to bare.
Depends on the gravity of disorder. If it was something quite serious it's easy to say abort, but then I think that would in all honestly be for selfish reasons because of how it would impact my own life. I actually don't have an answer….
[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] you don't really know that, but okay. Of course I don't. But if it is almost certain that the child would be born with a crippling defect, I would consider aborting it. I don't see the point. Let them decide if suffering is too much to bare. To be honest, I have no idea what I'd actually do in a situation like this.
Heck no. I personally believe that any member of society that is not fit for working should be discarded of. They are just using up air and space, for no benefit to the human race.mr_poodles123
That's some pretty fascistic talk there.
Anyway, I am not really comfortable with abortion (even though I support it's legality).
It depends on how long into the pregnancy. If it was after the first trimester, no because I'm not too fond of murder. If it was during the first trimester, I would abort.
Look at all of you, so quick to consider aborting a child. Have none of you heard of a dumpster?xTheExploited
Ya if my child had any disorder more serious then ADD/ADHD I really wouldn't want it. I feel bad for those parents who waste their lives taking care of severly disabled childern
[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]Look at all of you, so quick to consider aborting a child. Have none of you heard of a dumpster?Warship_19
Ya if my child had any disorder more serious then ADD/ADHD I really wouldn't want it. I feel bad for those parents who waste their lives taking care of severly disabled childern With perfectly usable dumpsters everywhere. :x
It largely depends on the severity of the disorders. It they expect the child to never be mentally functional to a degree where s/he could knowingly enjoy the things life could offer someone with that disorder then I'd be more inclined to say "Yes". However, Down Syndrome is not always the debilitating disease people have come to know it as. My mother absolutely loves children with Down Syndrome. She always says many of them will never be able to function the way you and I do, meaning people without Down Syndrome, but their personalities are such that they enjoy what is around them. She always preferred the company of children with Down Syndrome to those of regular children. She was a bus driver for 20+ years, and is has just received a degree in child development. She wants to open a day care for children with DS. I don't think I could take that child from her knowing how highly she would value that child, assuming the child had a level of cognitive function that allowed it to interact with people on some basis. I feel so horrible having this internal debate with myself. Shouldn't a person love, or whatever, their own offspring regardless of physical/mental deformities?
[QUOTE="clayron"] I feel so horrible having this internal debate with myself. Shouldn't a person love, or whatever, their own offspring regardless of physical/mental deformities? In the words of that crazed wench with the magic wand in Shrek 2, if you really love her, you'll let her go
No I wouldn't. I don't really see any difference between aborting an unborn fetus with a disorder and killing a mentally handicapped individual.aRE-you-AFraid
If I was ever injured like that in the military or life I would want my family to not try and save me. I'd rather them remember me as I was before. Not as a meaningless person with no brain.
Depends, I do know people who have been told stuff like this only to have a perfectly fine baby. It's better not knowing, it isn't mandatory to get these tests although doctors sometimes make it seem so. Better not to have the stress during pregnancy all for naught.
[QUOTE="HAHAITHINKNOT"][QUOTE="clayron"] I feel so horrible having this internal debate with myself. Shouldn't a person love, or whatever, their own offspring regardless of physical/mental deformities? In the words of that crazed wench with the magic wand in Shrek 2, if you really love her, you'll let her go I like you. I think I may want you to be my e-ninth. After D3nnycrane, Rawsavon, Xaos, and a few other users who meant nothing before you.
I don't know because I've never been in that situation. If it was the thing like the lady whose baby had no brain but she kept her alive anyway, no, I would surely not keep that child. I would just let the baby go. If I knew my baby was going to die shortly after birth, I would consider carrying it to full term, but I'd probably have a much harder time giving birth to a stillborn or a baby that couldn't live outside my body and having a funeral for it than having an abortion. I've never been in any situation like that or even been pregnant, so I'm not sure at this point how I'd react, it might be completely different from how I feel now.
No I would not, and this came up during our pregnancy as they regularly screen for Down's here in Canada. What the person does with that information is up to them. Luckily our test was negative, but had it been positive we wouldn't have continued. I respect those people who have the patience and mental strength to care for someone with a disability, but I'm not one of those people.
Continue with the pregnancy. For the months to come before the baby's birth, I'd be preparing myself on how to better rear a child with predicted disorder.
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I would do this aswell.
Yeah I figure he/she could suicide later if they wanted to. :P
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