i think you will get just as many yes answers from guys as you would girls if you asked them if they would date a guy with two penises surrealnumber5
Wait, not everyone has two? :?
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i think you will get just as many yes answers from guys as you would girls if you asked them if they would date a guy with two penises surrealnumber5
Wait, not everyone has two? :?
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]i think you will get just as many yes answers from guys as you would girls if you asked them if they would date a guy with two penises entropyecho
Wait, not everyone has two? :?
so im told, and not every girl will date me :([QUOTE="testfactor888"]So to date a girl with a child you want her to say that the child was a mistake? You are pretty messed upGenetic_CodeAre you denying it was a mistake? That's exactly what it was unless she intentionally conceived the child, which for people my age, is pretty foolish. If she doesn't accept that she made a mistake, then what's going to stop her from repeating herself? lol I honestly doubt that a girl would want to date you if you forced them to say their child was a mistake beforehand so you have nothing to worry about
[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="testfactor888"]So to date a girl with a child you want her to say that the child was a mistake? You are pretty messed uptestfactor888Are you denying it was a mistake? That's exactly what it was unless she intentionally conceived the child, which for people my age, is pretty foolish. If she doesn't accept that she made a mistake, then what's going to stop her from repeating herself? lol I honestly doubt that a girl would want to date you if you forced them to say their child was a mistake beforehand so you have nothing to worry about
Yeah, I dont think any girl would like that. Just because a long standing relationship (long enough to result in children) ends, does not mean that said child was a mistake. Its very possible that the child was planned but the relationship break up wasnt.The only time I can see a child being thought of as a mistake is when theparentswent threw with unprotected sex, wereunder the influence, or theybeing forced.
lol I honestly doubt that a girl would want to date you if you forced them to say their child was a mistake beforehand so you have nothing to worry abouttestfactor888I wouldn't force them to accept their mistake. I would ask her something along the lines of, "Knowing that you know now, would you ever again have unprotected sex with a person you can't trust?" If she was in complete denial that she made a mistake, I probably wouldn't continue the relationship.
Don't call it a mistake, just call it an Oops-Baby. I'm one so I can say that.
Zyrokin
Ha, my mom told me I wasn't "exactly planned."
Feels good man.
What if she wanted the child, is fully capable of raising the child on her own (including a job with enough money to cover expenses), and at the same time is pretty well adjusted. Would you still force the girl to admit she made a mistake when in fact she really diden't. Some girls make mistakes sure but not every young person with a child has one because of a "mistake" as you so clearly are trying to make it seem.testfactor888If she was mature enough to handle the responsibility of a child, then I would be fine with it. I don't think it's idea for a child to be raised by just the mother, but I don't consider it a duty for the mother to have a supporting figure. I'm tolerant of single mothers in other words, even though if I were a mother, I would want a partner to help me raise it. In that case, I wouldn't want her to say that she made a mistake because I wouldn't qualify it as a mistake. In fact, I would love to date a woman who is independent.
[QUOTE="Zyrokin"]
Don't call it a mistake, just call it an Oops-Baby. I'm one so I can say that.
entropyecho
Ha, my mom told me I wasn't "exactly planned."
Feels good man.
My parents were long married, but I wasn't planned. I don't mind being called a mistake. It's not my mistake.[QUOTE="Zyrokin"]
Don't call it a mistake, just call it an Oops-Baby. I'm one so I can say that.
entropyecho
Ha, my mom told me I wasn't "exactly planned."
Feels good man.
My parents told me I was planned...but I was born shortly after September 1...sooooo, not sure exactly how planned I was.
[QUOTE="entropyecho"][QUOTE="Zyrokin"]
Don't call it a mistake, just call it an Oops-Baby. I'm one so I can say that.
Genetic_Code
Ha, my mom told me I wasn't "exactly planned."
Feels good man.
My parents were long married, but I wasn't planned. I don't mind being called a mistake. It's not my mistake.Well, it was in the context of my mom telling me how hard things were when she first got married. Naturally, I felt a little guilty.
Well, it was in the context of my mom telling me how hard things were when she first got married. Naturally, I felt a little guilty.
entropyecho
You shouldn't. You have no control over their marriage.
Also, what do you guys think about this statement? "The child isn't a mistake. Unprotected sex is a mistake. The child is just the product of a mistake."
[QUOTE="entropyecho"]
Well, it was in the context of my mom telling me how hard things were when she first got married. Naturally, I felt a little guilty.
Genetic_Code
You shouldn't. You have no control over their marriage.
Also, what do you guys think about this statement? "The child isn't a mistake. Unprotected sex is a mistake. The child is just the product of a mistake."
is unprotected sex a mistake if the girl was in a serious relationship at the time? i don't think so. and what if she wanted the child? is it still a mistake? what if the guy was a total piece of **** and left after he told her he would help raise the child? you seem to be quick to judge...
Yes. No. No. Yes. Maybe I am. This is why women should sleep with men they can't trust. This is a good argument as to why women should wait until marriage to have sex as sort of a test to the character of the man. If a woman slept with a man that's not right for her, than that was a mistake.is unprotected sex a mistake if the girl was in a serious relationship at the time? i don't think so. and what if she wanted the child? is it still a mistake? what if the guy was a total piece of **** and left after he told her he would help raise the child? you seem to be quick to judge...
lazerface216
[QUOTE="lazerface216"]Yes. No. No. Yes. Maybe I am. This is why women should sleep with men they can't trust. This is a good argument as to why women should wait until marriage to have sex as sort of a test to the character of the man. If a woman slept with a man that's not right for her, than that was a mistake.is unprotected sex a mistake if the girl was in a serious relationship at the time? i don't think so. and what if she wanted the child? is it still a mistake? what if the guy was a total piece of **** and left after he told her he would help raise the child? you seem to be quick to judge...
Genetic_Code
marriage doesn't prove ANYTHING. a guy can turn into a total douchebag once married. who knows? and what if the guy divorces her after the child is born, is it still a mistake?
easier said than done...a whole lot more complicated than you are making it out to be.
Why the hell not?
Just because she has a kid means she's untouchable?
TroubleMaker411
Yes.
Why put yourself in that kind of drama when you can date a woman without kids? Doesn't make much sense, IMO.
[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]
Why the hell not?
Just because she has a kid means she's untouchable?
HammerSmashBass
Yes.
Why put yourself in that kind of drama when you can date a woman without kids? Doesn't make much sense, IMO.
But there isn't always drama.
Assuming that someone is damaged goods because they don't have a man, without knowing the full story, is blatently nasty, horrendously judgmental, and frankly, makes the person making the assumption a complete dirtbag!
[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]
Why the hell not?
Just because she has a kid means she's untouchable?
HammerSmashBass
Yes.
Why put yourself in that kind of drama when you can date a woman without kids? Doesn't make much sense, IMO.
it depends on how old you are too. when you get older your opinions change.
[QUOTE="HammerSmashBass"]
[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]
Why the hell not?
Just because she has a kid means she's untouchable?
TroubleMaker411
Yes.
Why put yourself in that kind of drama when you can date a woman without kids? Doesn't make much sense, IMO.
But there isn't always drama.
Assuming that someone is damaged goods because they don't have a man, without knowing the full story, is blatently nasty, horrendously judgmental, and frankly, makes the person making the assumption a complete dirtbag!
So be it--call me a "dirtbag" if you want but that's where I stand on the issue.
It just seems like getting involved with someone young who already has kids is the last thing I would be interested in. Baby daddy drama, etc.
[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]
[QUOTE="HammerSmashBass"]
Yes.
Why put yourself in that kind of drama when you can date a woman without kids? Doesn't make much sense, IMO.
HammerSmashBass
But there isn't always drama.
Assuming that someone is damaged goods because they don't have a man, without knowing the full story, is blatently nasty, horrendously judgmental, and frankly, makes the person making the assumption a complete dirtbag!
So be it--call me a "dirtbag" if you want but that's where I stand on the issue.
It just seems like getting involved with someone young who already has kids is the last thing I would be interested in. Baby daddy drama, etc.
Young?
Who said anything about young?
it depends on how old you are too. when you get older your opinions change.
lazerface216
That's true. when I was a teen, I didn't think I'd ever date a single mom. By the time I approached 30, It didn't matter. Single mom, single girl, they all feel the same to me.
[QUOTE="HammerSmashBass"]
[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]
But there isn't always drama.
Assuming that someone is damaged goods because they don't have a man, without knowing the full story, is blatently nasty, horrendously judgmental, and frankly, makes the person making the assumption a complete dirtbag!
TroubleMaker411
So be it--call me a "dirtbag" if you want but that's where I stand on the issue.
It just seems like getting involved with someone young who already has kids is the last thing I would be interested in. Baby daddy drama, etc.
Young?
Who said anything about young?
lol i noticed that too. some people are taking this as a 16 year old having a kid when the TC simply asked if you would date a girl (no age specified) who has a kid.
[QUOTE="lazerface216"]
it depends on how old you are too. when you get older your opinions change.
jun_aka_pekto
That's true. when I was a teen, I didn't think I'd ever date a single mom. By the time I approached 30, It didn't matter. Single mom, single girl, they all feel the same to me.
exactly.
Yeah same here but seeing how she got knocked up I would put on two condoms just to be safe from the drama. If she got prego on purpose to become a single parent I would beat skeet and retreat. It may sound cold but it is not the childs fault he/she is a bastard and I don't want no ready made family. There are plenty of women with no children so why should I be stuck with a kid that is not mine. Next thing you know the father pops back in the picture or the kid says your not my father ect.A MILF? I dont know that I would date her but I would definetly have sex with her.
DillonShwing
Yeah better to bang the broad then bounce just like the man before me did not try to clean up his mistake imo. I have no doubt she will find some sucker that will fall in love and take on that problem just not me.
You're wrong about marriage. She should get to know a person before you marry them; not just by going on dates with him, but by asking his family and friends what they think of him. He could be putting up an act, but she won't ever know that until she tries to get to know him, which is the point of dating. If she pulls off the act and gets her to marry him, then there's always divorce. Perhaps it is a mistake that she couldn't read the signs, dubious though they may have been, but it is acceptable for her to try to correct the mistake by getting a divorce.marriage doesn't prove ANYTHING. a guy can turn into a total douchebag once married. who knows? and what if the guy divorces her after the child is born, is it still a mistake?
easier said than done...a whole lot more complicated than you are making it out to be.
lazerface216
If the guy divorces her after she gave birth to the baby, then good. He must've not been right for her. Again, she could have possibly made a mistake in reading him or he could just be that good at acting. Either way, the child was not a mistake. Marriage is a very good indicator of how reliable a person is if you enter the union with the right amount of precaution and commitment.
You said that I am too quick to judge. Perhaps you're too skeptical.
[QUOTE="lazerface216"]You're wrong about marriage. She should get to know a person before you marry them; not just by going on dates with him, but by asking his family and friends what they think of him. He could be putting up an act, but she won't ever know that until she tries to get to know him, which is the point of dating. If she pulls off the act and gets her to marry him, then there's always divorce. Perhaps it is a mistake that she couldn't read the signs, dubious though they may have been, but it is acceptable for her to try to correct the mistake by getting a divorce. If the guy divorces her after she gave birth to the baby, then good. He must've not been right for her. Again, she could have possibly made a mistake in reading him or he could just be that good at acting. Either way, the child was not a mistake. Marriage is a very good indicator of how reliable a person is if you enter the union with the right amount of precaution and commitment. You said that I am too quick to judge. Perhaps you're too skeptical to see the obvious.marriage doesn't prove ANYTHING. a guy can turn into a total douchebag once married. who knows? and what if the guy divorces her after the child is born, is it still a mistake?
easier said than done...a whole lot more complicated than you are making it out to be.
Genetic_Code
well i guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]
[QUOTE="HammerSmashBass"]
So be it--call me a "dirtbag" if you want but that's where I stand on the issue.
It just seems like getting involved with someone young who already has kids is the last thing I would be interested in. Baby daddy drama, etc.
lazerface216
Young?
Who said anything about young?
lol i noticed that too. some people are taking this as a 16 year old having a kid when the TC simply asked if you would date a girl (no age specified) who has a kid.
I'm 19, so I'm specifically talking about girls in the 17-25ish range. I wouldn't date a 40-year old but it wouldn't have anything to do with her having a kid.
So I'm saying I wouldn't pursue a girl close to my age who already had kids.
You're wrong about marriage. She should get to know a person before you marry them; not just by going on dates with him, but by asking his family and friends what they think of him. He could be putting up an act, but she won't ever know that until she tries to get to know him, which is the point of dating. If she pulls off the act and gets her to marry him, then there's always divorce. Perhaps it is a mistake that she couldn't read the signs, dubious though they may have been, but it is acceptable for her to try to correct the mistake by getting a divorce.[QUOTE="lazerface216"]
marriage doesn't prove ANYTHING. a guy can turn into a total douchebag once married. who knows? and what if the guy divorces her after the child is born, is it still a mistake?
easier said than done...a whole lot more complicated than you are making it out to be.
Genetic_Code
If the guy divorces her after she gave birth to the baby, then good. He must've not been right for her. Again, she could have possibly made a mistake in reading him or he could just be that good at acting. Either way, the child was not a mistake. Marriage is a very good indicator of how reliable a person is if you enter the union with the right amount of precaution and commitment.
You said that I am too quick to judge. Perhaps you're too skeptical.
Most people I know that are married have problems with money and sex not that they don't know or care about their partner. Also people are not static your not the same person you were 10 years ago. The biggest problem is getting into a marriage with a person from a broken home or coming from a home with a unhealthy marriage. My ex was a good person but had no clue how a healthy relationship worked because her parents were so screwed up. In the end I could not put up with the drama and I had to give her the boot.
[QUOTE="lazerface216"]
[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]
Young?
Who said anything about young?
HammerSmashBass
lol i noticed that too. some people are taking this as a 16 year old having a kid when the TC simply asked if you would date a girl (no age specified) who has a kid.
I'm 19, so I'm specifically talking about girls in the 17-25ish range. I wouldn't date a 40-year old but it wouldn't have anything to do with her having a kid.
So I'm saying I wouldn't pursue a girl close to my age who already had kids.
So, you go out for a beer.
You meet a girl in a bar, you hit it off and she is more than simply hot, she's PERFECT!
BUT
You discover that she is out on a work do and has left her kid with her mum (or whoever, someone responsible) for the night so she can go out.
You're telling me, that when you discover she had a kid, you will do a runner?
Dude, you're shooting yourself in the foot. She aint asking you to be the kids dad, she is perfectly cabale of taking care of the kid without you. you're just the bloke she happens to be seeing. one has nothing to do with the other.
Of course, this is just my opinion, and you're entitled to yours.
Maybe being a little older has changed my perspective.
But i think that running from someone because they have a child actually means you're doing the woman a favour. because you obviously don't have the strength of mind or maturity to deal with acting like a grown up around someone elses kid.
[QUOTE="HammerSmashBass"]
[QUOTE="lazerface216"]
lol i noticed that too. some people are taking this as a 16 year old having a kid when the TC simply asked if you would date a girl (no age specified) who has a kid.
I'm 19, so I'm specifically talking about girls in the 17-25ish range. I wouldn't date a 40-year old but it wouldn't have anything to do with her having a kid.
So I'm saying I wouldn't pursue a girl close to my age who already had kids.
So, you go out for a beer.
You meet a girl in a bar, you hit it off and she is more than simply hot, she's PERFECT!
BUT
You discover that she is out on a work do and has left her kid with her mum (or whoever, someone responsible) for the night so she can go out.
You're telling me, that when you discover she had a kid, you will do a runner?
Dude, you're shooting yourself in the foot. She aint asking you to be the kids dad, she is perfectly cabale of taking care of the kid without you. you're just the bloke she happens to be seeing. one has nothing to do with the other.
Of course, this is just my opinion, and you're entitled to yours.
Maybe being a little older has changed my perspective.
But i think that running from someone because they have a child actually means you're doing the woman a favour. because you obviously don't have the strength of mind or maturity to deal with acting like a grown up around someone elses kid.
(was not directed at me, but 'meh') I would say we can have sex...but that's it For those of us that hate kids (and will never have them), what would be the point of starting a relationship?How old are you?[QUOTE="rawsavon"]
[QUOTE="Gamingclone"]
For me? Never, I dont plan on leaving my current girlfriend. Gamingclone
(just curious)
Thought someone would ask that eventually. Im 54 :P
jk...Im 17. But now I have good reason to believe that I will be with her for a long time. I would go into detail but you would get hit by an unreadable wall of text:P
lol[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"][QUOTE="HammerSmashBass"]
I'm 19, so I'm specifically talking about girls in the 17-25ish range. I wouldn't date a 40-year old but it wouldn't have anything to do with her having a kid.
So I'm saying I wouldn't pursue a girl close to my age who already had kids.
rawsavon
So, you go out for a beer.
You meet a girl in a bar, you hit it off and she is more than simply hot, she's PERFECT!
BUT
You discover that she is out on a work do and has left her kid with her mum (or whoever, someone responsible) for the night so she can go out.
You're telling me, that when you discover she had a kid, you will do a runner?
Dude, you're shooting yourself in the foot. She aint asking you to be the kids dad, she is perfectly cabale of taking care of the kid without you. you're just the bloke she happens to be seeing. one has nothing to do with the other.
Of course, this is just my opinion, and you're entitled to yours.
Maybe being a little older has changed my perspective.
But i think that running from someone because they have a child actually means you're doing the woman a favour. because you obviously don't have the strength of mind or maturity to deal with acting like a grown up around someone elses kid.
(was not directed at me, but 'meh') I would say we can have sex...but that's it For those of us that hate kids (and will never have them), what would be the point of starting a relationship?This.
There's nothing wrong with me for preferring to date someone without kids. I really don't see what the problem is.
(was not directed at me, but 'meh') I would say we can have sex...but that's it For those of us that hate kids (and will never have them), what would be the point of starting a relationship?rawsavon
Not liking kids is a good excuse to tell her to do one.
Simply thinking she is damaged goods, on the other hand, makes you a douchebag :)
Just because you're married doesn't mean your problems will go away. Yes, people change, but they should only really have to change in response to the changes in their bodies and their environment. There is no reason why a trustworthy man sees to it that he must be unfaithful or abusive to his partner after 10 healthy years of marriage. If he does violate the contract he originally agreed to, then a woman should have a right to file for divorce. Yes, some people are unable to hold good relationships. This is why you shouldn't marry them, much less date them. You did the right thing by breaking up with a woman who couldn't keep the relationship up. It seems like your solution to marriage is to abandon it instead of reform it. Marriage isn't for everyone, but I do think it would be to the couples' benefit if they love each other, trust each other, and get along with each other in a relationship, that they marry if they conceive a child on accident. It's not their duty however. If the mother is mature enough to handle it on their own, then fine. There should be no laws prohibiting her from doing so.Most people I know that are married have problems with money and sex not that they don't know or care about their partner. Also people are not static your not the same person you were 10 years ago. The biggest problem is getting into a marriage with a person from a broken home or coming from a home with a unhealthy marriage. My ex was a good person but had no clue how a healthy relationship worked because her parents were so screwed up. In the end I could not put up with the drama and I had to give her the boot.
pimpog
[QUOTE="rawsavon"] (was not directed at me, but 'meh') I would say we can have sex...but that's it For those of us that hate kids (and will never have them), what would be the point of starting a relationship?TroubleMaker411
Not liking kids is a good excuse to tell her to do one.
Simply thinking she is damaged goods, on the other hand, makes you a douchebag :)
For me it has nothing to do with being 'damaged goods'. I have had sex and expect that will be the case for her (kids can be bad outcome of said activity). I just want to punt every kid I come across like it is 4th and long from my own 10 yard line[QUOTE="Gamingclone"]
[QUOTE="rawsavon"] How old are you?
(just curious)
cybrcatter
Thought someone would ask that eventually. Im 54 :P
jk...Im 17. But now I have good reason to believe that I will be with her for a long time. I would go into detail but you would get hit by an unreadable wall of text:P
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