Would you ever date a post-op Transexual.

what would someone who was born part man/part woman (Yes there are people who are born as both) be called after the operation?BumFluff122

Ying Yang?

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]what would someone who was born part man/part woman (Yes there are people who are born as both) be called after the operation?Nifty_Shark

Ying Yang?

Rather open minded bunch you all are.

If I liked her as a person and we shared a lot in common, why not? My sexual attraction to her would depend on just how masculine her features are, the male physique is rather disgusting to me, so it would depend. But sex is not everything, geez. If my partner got into some serious accident that left her horribly disfigured and unsexually appealing to me, I would still be with her because I LOVE her.

Love is blind.

dhyce

YES!... Oh wait...

NO! (I wouldn't. Nasty)

*shrugges*

Meh, I'd hit it.

For the novelty factor alone. Talk about a notch in the bedpost.

Rather open minded bunch you all are.

If I liked her as a person and we shared a lot in common, why not? My sexual attraction to her would depend on just how masculine her features are, the male physique is rather disgusting to me, so it would depend. But sex is not everything, geez. If my partner got into some serious accident that left her horribly disfigured and unsexually appealing to me, I would still be with her because I LOVE her.

Love is blind.

dhyce

hell to the nofreshgman

Yes, but only the ones that did the male to female transition. I could never go the other way.

nothing to do with open minds. just the thought of bumping uglies with franken-genitalia is something that i find really off-putting. have you seen the videos that show how it's done? i don't care how perfect it looks that thought will always be there. and sexual attraction is largely pheromone based, so looks aren't everything. even if the features were perfect you'd be chemically rejecting love (as terrible as that sounds) based on genetic differences, unless you swing that way. so yeah, so sum up - love it blind, it's pheromone based largely - so you're own cliche kind of undercuts your larger point. and i'd like to clarify that i would still love my partner if they were disfigured. i just couldn't love someone who is a man with inverted genitalia fashioned to look like women's bits. 3picuri3

Again, what on the planet Jupiter does just dating and love have to do with sex? You open up by saying "bumping uglies." That's not what I'm talking about, I'm saying I would most likely date a post-op transexual given that we have a lot in common/truly connect. I said I would only be able to have sex with them if their appearance was attractive/adequately believable.

What is this about pheromones? I would argue a much larger aspect of sexual attraction is simple looks based on what the individuals concept of attractiveness is. A humans ability to be attracted to another is much more complex than that of the average lifeform. For instance, I know I'm homosexual, I have zero attraction to the male anatomy, however, if a transexual looked believable enough, I can't see myself being turned off by the knowledge that they were male and simply had their genitals altered; in fact I might just find their ability to go out and become what they wanted to be somewhat admirable, if anything. I'm certain you're correct on some level, though there's a lot more to it than arbitrary pheromones.. Besides, transexuals go through hormone therapy that likely alters their pheromones, at least somewhat.

I can understand where you're coming from sexually, but I'm talking about love. Sorry for the miscommunication there.

Rather open minded bunch you all are.

If I liked her as a person and we shared a lot in common, why not? My sexual attraction to her would depend on just how masculine her features are, the male physique is rather disgusting to me, so it would depend. But sex is not everything, geez. If my partner got into some serious accident that left her horribly disfigured and unsexually appealing to me, I would still be with her because I LOVE her.

Love is blind.

dhyce

I agree entirely, the worst I'd be worried about if I dated someone like that would be my family.

H to the E to the double L NO!KHfanboy2

Again, what on the planet Jupiter does just dating and love have to do with sex? You open up by saying "bumping uglies." That's not what I'm talking about, I'm saying I would most likely date a post-op transexual given that we have a lot in common/truly connect. I said I would only be able to have sex with them if their appearance was attractive/adequately believable.

What is this about pheromones? I would argue a much larger aspect of sexual attraction is simple looks based on what the individuals concept of attractiveness is. A humans ability to be attracted to another is much more complex than that of the average lifeform. For instance, I know I'm homosexual, I have zero attraction to the male anatomy, however, if a transexual looked believable enough, I can't see myself being turned off by the knowledge that they were male and simply had their genitals altered; in fact I might just find their ability to go out and become what they wanted to be somewhat admirable, if anything. I'm certain you're correct on some level, though there's a lot more to it than arbitrary pheromones.. Besides, transexuals go through hormone therapy that likely alters their pheromones, at least somewhat.

I can understand where you're coming from sexually, but I'm talking about love. Sorry for the miscommunication there.

dhyce

no.

that's gross.

Here's the problem with your thread:

The transexual had the operation with the hopes that you would NEVER HAVE KNOWN THE TRUTH IN THE FIRST PLACE.

You don't make the "switch" to stand out, you make it to fit in.

Netherscourge

most transgenders will confess to their partners waht they use to be and most partners don't care because they love their partner for who they are. transgender people who don't tell their partners are just mean or scared but you can't blame them people freak out about it and don't think about how they have broken the persons heart and only think about how embarrssed they could be if someoe found out.

]Well you're a female. You aren't looking for a sexual relation with soemoen who can bear your children. Even if men don't think that's what they are lookign for it is. Have you ever seen those studies concerning what men find attractive in a woman physically? OR what the perfect female body is shaped the way it is? (I'm not too sure what the dimensions are but it's something similar to hips/bust ratio being 1 to 1 with a smaller stomach or something). Most males (Who aren't homophobic) can't see themselves having a child with a post op transexual who was formerly male because it's almost impossible.BumFluff122

Nah, I don't really pay much attention to those studies. I feel they generalize men in a negative way. While the majority feel the way some of those studies dictate, I'm certain it's not all true, given the well-spring of fetishes men literally have that contradict these "studies." The same for women, some of my girlfriends have told me sexual fantasies/quirks of theirs that would send a cold chill down most men. We've all got our own specific sexual identity, it's not as broad as homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual and so forth.

what would someone who was born part man/part woman (Yes there are people who are born as both) be called after the operation?BumFluff122

it depends on waht they are after the operation if they got ride of the male parts then female, or the female parts leaving the male then a man, But in most cases they are born with more dominate female parts and are turned female as children and told later so they themselves can figure out for sure.

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]]Well you're a female. You aren't looking for a sexual relation with soemoen who can bear your children. Even if men don't think that's what they are lookign for it is. Have you ever seen those studies concerning what men find attractive in a woman physically? OR what the perfect female body is shaped the way it is? (I'm not too sure what the dimensions are but it's something similar to hips/bust ratio being 1 to 1 with a smaller stomach or something). Most males (Who aren't homophobic) can't see themselves having a child with a post op transexual who was formerly male because it's almost impossible.dhyce

Nah, I don't really pay much attention to those studies. I feel they generalize men in a negative way. While the majority feel the way some of those studies dictate, I'm certain it's not all true, given the well-spring of fetishes men literally have that contradict these "studies." The same for women, some of my girlfriends have told me sexual fantasies/quirks of theirs that would send a cold chill down most men. We've all got our own specific sexual identity, it's not as broad as homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual and so forth.

Sorry to but in but I agree.

Nah, I don't really pay much attention to those studies. I feel they generalize men in a negative way. While the majority feel the way some of those studies dictate, I'm certain it's not all true, given the well-spring of fetishes men literally have that contradict these "studies." The same for women, some of my girlfriends have told me sexual fantasies/quirks of theirs that would send a cold chill down most men. We've all got our own specific sexual identity, it's not as broad as homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual and so forth.

dhyce

Yes I know all about fetishes. In fact I have a couple (thousand) myself. I was talking more in terms of majority. The majority of straight males in western civlization consider a female more attractive if she has the right body proportions for bearing a helthy child. If you go elsewhere in the world and look at those different cultures their's may differ as to what they find attractive but they will still be mostly preferred for bearing strong, healthy and powerful children. BumFluff122

Ah, just making sure I know what you mean. In that case, blonde versus brunette, short versus tall aside, most men in the US SEEM to favor a certain figure on women. One that transexuals can rarely carry. I guess I agree with that point.

Still, I'd like to think people are looking for more than an ideal body. That's just the way I choose to look at things, I guess.

[QUOTE="dhyce"]

Rather open minded bunch you all are.

If I liked her as a person and we shared a lot in common, why not? My sexual attraction to her would depend on just how masculine her features are, the male physique is rather disgusting to me, so it would depend. But sex is not everything, geez. If my partner got into some serious accident that left her horribly disfigured and unsexually appealing to me, I would still be with her because I LOVE her.

Love is blind.

nocoolnamejim

But in reality, yous two are the ones who seem to be criticisng decisions made by users which would be very personal to them. Irony much. :wink:

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"] Yes I know all about fetishes. In fact I have a couple (thousand) myself. I was talking more in terms of majority. The majority of straight males in western civlization consider a female more attractive if she has the right body proportions for bearing a helthy child. If you go elsewhere in the world and look at those different cultures their's may differ as to what they find attractive but they will still be mostly preferred for bearing strong, healthy and powerful children. dhyce

Ah, just making sure I know what you mean. In that case, blonde versus brunette, short versus tall aside, most men in the US SEEM to favor a certain figure on women. One that transexuals can rarely carry. I guess I agree with that point.

Still, I'd like to think people are looking for more than an ideal body. That's just the way I choose to look at things, I guess.

The words 'shallow' and a lack of being 'open minded' has been used.

But in reality, yous two are the ones who seem to be criticisng decisions made by users which would be very personal to them. Irony much. :wink:

MetalGear_Ninty

Yes, I'm calling the sexual perspective of most people quite shallow, and I do not see the irony, because it is true. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just calling it like I see it.

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

how about now?

Neon-Tiger

The words 'shallow' and a lack of being 'open minded' has been used.

But in reality, yous two are the ones who seem to be criticisng decisions made by users which would be very personal to them. Irony much. :wink:

Yes, I'm calling the sexual perspective of most people quite shallow, and I do not see the irony, because it is. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just calling it like I see it.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="dhyce"]

Rather open minded bunch you all are.

If I liked her as a person and we shared a lot in common, why not? My sexual attraction to her would depend on just how masculine her features are, the male physique is rather disgusting to me, so it would depend. But sex is not everything, geez. If my partner got into some serious accident that left her horribly disfigured and unsexually appealing to me, I would still be with her because I LOVE her.

Love is blind.

MetalGear_Ninty

But in reality, yous two are the ones who seem to be criticisng decisions made by users which would be very personal to them. Irony much. :wink:

Not to be offensive but i'm strictly heterosexual. The thought of being with someone who is/was the same gender as I will meet rejection very quickly...... Don't make me have to find out the hard way. :?Mr_Leonis

I don't know, I just think it is ironic to imply that people are close minded effectively because they don't think like you do, and they wouldn't make the same decisions as you. But hey, that'syour perspective.MetalGear_Ninty

There's quite a difference between "I can never see myself being sexually attracted to a transexual, so I doubt I would date one out of concern for how far I can take our relationship" and "HELL TO THE NO LOL!!!!"

The latter is just unopenminded, and it's the majority of this thread. I know opinion varies, obviously, yet I get the impression most of the lovely people here never sincerely thought about it.

As I originally posted, I was talking about love, not sex. This thread is about dating, right? I must have taken a wrong turn in albaquerky. I was trying to propose that, given you're a mature person, you met someone you were convinced was the opposite sex. You two date, for a while and really fall for one another. During a night of wine and secrets they finally admit they're a transexual, what do you do? I mean, if you actually care about this person, thought yourself to be in love. "Hell to the no" just ceases to become relevant.

Hence I'm saying there might be a few closed minds around.

Again, not that I'm implying that's a bad thing. Everyone's mind varies, nobody can help it.

[QUOTE="Mr_Leonis"]Not to be offensive but i'm strictly heterosexual. The thought of being with someone who is/was the same gender as I will meet rejection very quickly...... Don't make me have to find out the hard way. :?foxhound_fox

I see your point but the fact that they were born a male kinda....I'm sorry. Sometimes I wish I was born differently aswell.(not gender wise)

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] I think that I'd agree with this answer. Granted, there would be some "weird" factor to get over for me, but I like to think that I'm not so shallow as to judge the person in question SOLELY by her operation. A person isn't exclusively defined by any one thing. IF I was attracted to her, and IF we shared a lot of common interests and enjoyed spending time together, then yes I'd consider dating her. Of course, this all assumes that I was somehow no longer married.nocoolnamejim

But in reality, yous two are the ones who seem to be criticisng decisions made by users which would be very personal to them. Irony much. :wink:

However, the contrary perspective could be said. The operation can be said just to be superficial -- the person doesn't actually change their x or y chromosomes, and any changes made are largely superficial -- with this in mind it is understandable is some people would flat-out reject dating a transexual because the gender change is not absolute.

Moreover, the situation becomes a lot more complex when considering religious sensibilities, where it may be percieved as a sin to 'lie with another man'.

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I don't know, I just think it is ironic to imply that people are close minded effectively because they don't think like you do, and they wouldn't make the same decisions as you. But hey, that'syour perspective.dhyce

There's quite a difference between "I can never see myself being sexually attracted to a transexual, so I doubt I would date one out of concern for how far I can take our relationship" and "HELL TO THE NO LOL!!!!"

The latter is just unopenminded, and it's the majority of this thread. I know opinion varies, obviously, yet I get the impression most of the lovely people here never sincerely thought about it.

As I originally posted, I was talking about love, not sex. This thread is about dating, right? I must have taken a wrong turn in albaquerky. I was trying to propose that, given you're a mature person, you met someone you were convinced was the opposite sex. You two date, for a while and really fall for one another. During a night of wine and secrets they finally admit they're a transexual, what do you do? I mean, if you actually care about this person, thought yourself to be in love. "Hell to the no" just ceases to become relevant.

Hence I'm saying there might be a few closed minds around.

Again, not that I'm implying that's a bad thing. Everyone's mind varies, nobody can help it.

Rather open minded bunch you all are dhyce

To be fair, you did kinda generalise everybody in the thread. MetalGear_Ninty

Oh wow, totally wasn't aware of hoew I worded that, I'm sorry.

I had my wisdom teeth out yesterday, I'm cranky, sore, and the Percocet is making me a bit loopy. I'm really not a **** I swear, just down in the dumps today.

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] To be fair, you did kinda generalise everybody in the thread. dhyce

Oh wow, totally wasn't aware of hoew I worded that, I'm sorry.

I had my wisdom teeth out yesterday, I'm cranky, sore, and the Percocet is making me a bit loopy. I'm really not a **** I swear, just down in the dumps today.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] The words 'shallow' and a lack of being 'open minded' has been used.

But in reality, yous two are the ones who seem to be criticisng decisions made by users which would be very personal to them. Irony much. :wink:

MetalGear_Ninty

However, the contrary perspective could be said. The operation can be said just to be superficial -- the person doesn't actually change their x or y chromosomes, and any changes made are largely superficial -- with this in mind it is understandable is some people would flat-out reject dating a transexual because the gender change is not absolute.

Moreover, the situation becomes a lot more complex when considering religious sensibilities, where it may be percieved as a sin to 'lie with another man'.