Would you honestly steal in this situation?

How does friendship not enter into it?  Responses to this question would change for some people if you received this dollar from a random person as opposed to a friend.

You are stealing from your friend because your friend gave you a dollar to buy a coke for him, you did not buy a coke for him, you received a coke and gave it to him, the dollar that he gave you was not used for its intended purpose.

He did indeed get what he wanted and what he gave you the money for but you did not use the money to obtain the coke thus it is just his dollar and should rightfully be returned to him.

Also, you're not really stealing from the vendor, you're simply exploiting a weakness in their system.  If you put another dollar in the machine then you're just going to receive another coke and you can't just stuff the coke back into the machine so there's no way to "repay" the machine. 

MrHappyBizzar

*sigh*  Your friend gave you a dollar to put in a coke machine and get buy him a coke.  You did.  The coke is his...he paid for it.  Now the dollar IS gone.  The difference is....instead of one coke, two came out.  So if it bothers you...then give him both cokes...but the dollar WAS spent for what he wanted.  Doesn't matter who drinks the other coke...it belongs to the vending company...if you were as honest as you'd have us believe....you would get the phone number off the machine and call the vendor and make arrangements to give him the other dollar.  Your friend is out NO money.  He got what he purchased.  He was not stolen from.  How would you know which dollar was used for what?  Please follow the logic.  If he handed me a dollar...I'd put that one in before I dug one out of my pocket.  So his was used.  He lost nothing regardless of which dollar is used.

You ARE stealing from the vendor. The cost is $1.00 for one coke.  You got two.  Your last comment belies the honest approach.  Stealing is stealing whether it's from a friend OR a stranger.

Logic dictates....

....Wait a minute. Coming back to this thread.

I don't see how using his money would be considered stealing. You put your money in and get two sodas for your money, your sodas. If someone picks some random lottery numbers, you buy the ticket, and win. You don't have to give them any money, though it would be the nice thing to do.

Legolas_Katarn

Your example isn't entirely relevent though.  They are simply providing you with random numbers, there's no money involved in the situation at that point.  Though I would feel an obligation to somehow reimburse someone who provided me with winning lottery numbers simply as a sign of appreciation, I think that morally you don't really have an obligation to do so.  When it comes to the coke situation, there are two acceptable solutions in my opinion: give your friend a coke and his dollar back as you did not have to pay for the second coke or keep the two cokes for yourself and buy a third coke to give to your friend.  This is entirely a matter of opinion though, I'm simply arguing my point, everyone is free to have their own opinion and since this is not an issue of legality as much as it is morality no one is right and no one is wrong.

[QUOTE="MrHappyBizzar"]

How does friendship not enter into it? Responses to this question would change for some people if you received this dollar from a random person as opposed to a friend.

You are stealing from your friend because your friend gave you a dollar to buy a coke for him, you did not buy a coke for him, you received a coke and gave it to him, the dollar that he gave you was not used for its intended purpose.

He did indeed get what he wanted and what he gave you the money for but you did not use the money to obtain the coke thus it is just his dollar and should rightfully be returned to him.

Also, you're not really stealing from the vendor, you're simply exploiting a weakness in their system. If you put another dollar in the machine then you're just going to receive another coke and you can't just stuff the coke back into the machine so there's no way to "repay" the machine.

LJS9502_basic

*sigh* Your friend gave you a dollar to put in a coke machine and get buy him a coke. You did. The coke is his...he paid for it. Now the dollar IS gone. The difference is....instead of one coke, two came out. So if it bothers you...then give him both cokes...but the dollar WAS spent for what he wanted. Doesn't matter who drinks the other coke...it belongs to the vending company...if you were as honest as you'd have us believe....you would get the phone number off the machine and call the vendor and make arrangements to give him the other dollar. Your friend is out NO money. He got what he purchased. He was not stolen from. How would you know which dollar was used for what? Please follow the logic. If he handed me a dollar...I'd put that one in before I dug one out of my pocket. So his was used. He lost nothing regardless of which dollar is used.

You ARE stealing from the vendor. The cost is $1.00 for one coke. You got two. Your last comment belies the honest approach. Stealing is stealing whether it's from a friend OR a stranger.

Logic dictates....

I don't disagree with that, arrange to send that other dollar to the coca cola company and then nothing is lost.  That seems like a reasonable solution, both dollars are used to purchase cokes for you and your friend.  You put up a good argument. 

[QUOTE="Legolas_Katarn"]

....Wait a minute. Coming back to this thread.

I don't see how using his money would be considered stealing. You put your money in and get two sodas for your money, your sodas. If someone picks some random lottery numbers, you buy the ticket, and win. You don't have to give them any money, though it would be the nice thing to do.

MrHappyBizzar

Your example isn't entirely relevent though.  They are simply providing you with random numbers, there's no money involved in the situation at that point.  Though I would feel an obligation to somehow reimburse someone who provided me with winning lottery numbers simply as a sign of appreciation, I think that morally you don't really have an obligation to do so.  When it comes to the coke situation, there are two acceptable solutions in my opinion: give your friend a coke and his dollar back as you did not have to pay for the second coke or keep the two cokes for yourself and buy a third coke to give to your friend.  This is entirely a matter of opinion though, I'm simply arguing my point, everyone is free to have their own opinion and since this is not an issue of legality as much as it is morality no one is right and no one is wrong.

I just meant that the thread title says "would you steal" I don't think it could be considered stealing no matter what you do.

A. I don't steal from friend or people I know

B. I definitely wouldn't take a dollar.    

It's not stealing.  It is just your choice if you want yourself or your friend to have a free coke.

Free coke for yourself- You put "his" dollar in and got 2 cokes.  You get one and he gets one.  You didn't spend your dollar.

Free coke for your friend- You put your dollar in and get two cokes.  You get one and he gets one, and he gets his dollar back.

So there is no stealing either way.  I would pick free coke for me since I'm a cheapskate.

Stealing a dollar is not worth it from anybody...what the hell can you do with a dollar??_-B_Smooth-_

Well, if you save it.  You would be halfway to having $2

Option 2.

A dollar is hardly worth losing a friend over, not to mention, stealing is wrong.MrHappyBizzar