Would you kill a human for 10 million dollars

[QUOTE="Whicker89"]Yeah, I'd keep 5 million and donate 5 millionpianist

That doesn't make you any better a person. Don't lie to yourself - 5 million dollars is far more than you deserve for premeditated, unprovoked murder. What you would actually deserve is to be locked in a small room for the rest of your life.

[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"][QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="Whicker89"]Yeah, I'd keep 5 million and donate 5 millionRhazakna

That doesn't make you any better a person. Don't lie to yourself - 5 million dollars is far more than you deserve for premeditated, unprovoked murder. What you would actually deserve is to be locked in a room for the rest of your life.

What if it was a bounty, on say Mary I, or Nero? Or some other magnificiently violent persecuter of humanity?

That's not the proposed situation, though.

Well, he never said murder did he? He said "kill" I think.

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="guynamedbilly"][QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="Whicker89"]Yeah, I'd keep 5 million and donate 5 millionguynamedbilly

That doesn't make you any better a person. Don't lie to yourself - 5 million dollars is far more than you deserve for premeditated, unprovoked murder. What you would actually deserve is to be locked in a room for the rest of your life.

What if it was a bounty, on say Mary I, or Nero? Or some other magnificiently violent persecuter of humanity?

That's not the proposed situation, though.

Well, he never said murder did he? He said "kill" I think.

To most people, they're the same thing.

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="Whicker89"]Yeah, I'd keep 5 million and donate 5 millionguynamedbilly

That doesn't make you any better a person. Don't lie to yourself - 5 million dollars is far more than you deserve for premeditated, unprovoked murder. What you would actually deserve is to be locked in a room for the rest of your life.

What if it was a bounty, on say Mary I, or Nero? Or some other magnificiently violent persecuter of humanity?

I don't think that's the implication here. Personally, I disagree with the notion of capital punishment, and so I would still disapprove, especially since the intent is selfish gain, not the removal of an evil person from society. I would, however, find the act less reprehensible if the person being killed was scum. I still wouldn't do it myself, though. There seems to be, to me, something very detestable about the idea of ending someone else's life for your own selfish gain.

I imagine everyone will say no. If you could get away with it with no one knowing, would you? err...I would hope everyone would say no.Two400

I'd still say no. Because even if I could get away with it with no one knowing, HOW SURE am I that I can get away with it with no one knowing?

Not good enough for me. I NEED someone to know about it.

More importantly, I NEED them to have the authority to give me permission to commit murder.

'And MOST importantly, I need to have leverage against them. I need to have something tying THEM to the murder. That way, if they ever try to dump the murder on me, I have definitive proof that they were the ones who ordered me to do it. Granted, I still might do some prison time. But depending on who hired me to commit the murder, I could potentially walk away scott free just by proving that they did it.

And MOST MOST imp[ortantly, THEY need to know that I have leverage against them. That way, they won't even think of pinning the murder on me. They KNOW that they'll be in a world of **** if they try to pin it on me, so they would never even attempt it.

But you say..."if that's the case, couldn't they just blame you for the murder and then kill you before you get a chance to prove who provided the orders?"

And that's a valid point. That's why I'd provide this proof to someone who I trust. I let my employers know that SOMEONE ELSE has this proof, which is to be released in the event of my untimely death. I don't reveal the identity of this person (people). So they can't just go and murder that person too. If all of my friends and acquaintances suddenly start getting murdered, the press is going to receive a very incriminating envelope.

Under these conditions, I WOULD commit murder for 10 million dollars. In fact, under these conditions, I would commit murder for far less money.

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="Whicker89"]Yeah, I'd keep 5 million and donate 5 millionWhicker89

That doesn't make you any better a person. Don't lie to yourself - 5 million dollars is far more than you deserve for premeditated, unprovoked murder. What you would actually deserve is to be locked in a small room for the rest of your life.

I don't think they'd be nearly so keen to give you 5 million dollars. Also, I think you're mistaken. I don't know of anyone who would give his or her life for charity. Time, yes. Money, yes. But life? Not a chance. Would you forfeit your life for charity?

Definitely not. I value my life, and would never take someone else's life away for something as trivial as wealth... especially when there are other perfectly legitimate ways of satisfying my material desires. Those of you answering yes - do you find it impossible to put yourselves in the shoes of the person who is being randomly killed to satisfy your obsession with easy money? Do you feel good about your sadistic and selfish combination of greed and laziness?pianist

Well...yeah. I just got paid $10 million and I will never be held accountable for it.

I might have some guilt and I might have some nightmares, but I think that's worth $10 million.

Or maybe I don't think that's worth $10 million. Doesn't matter. I'd do it anyway.

You'd be surprised how easy it is to get someone to commit murder. Human beings, as a whole, are VERY willing to do horrible things if you reward them and convince them that SOMEONE ELSE is going to be held accountable. Once you've fulfilled those conditions, the VAST majority of people will do anything you say.

Now, I'd like to think that I'm in the small percentage of people who wouldn't comit murder under any circumstances. But I'm probably not. Everyone has their breaking point, and anyone is capable of anything. I don't trust anyone and there's no reason why I should treat myself any differently.

heh, you dont know till you try . :) i couldnt think any way for me not to do it. c02z

Then you're really no better than a terrorist who blows himself up in a market or cuts the head off of a helpless, bound civilian with the intention of achieving God's favor, and Heaven in the afterlife. In fact, you're worse... because you're not even doing this due to some sort of misguided religious fervor, but because you are a greedy and totally self-obsessed individual. You're the sort of person whose death in this situation I would find less morally reprehensible.

[QUOTE="pianist"]Definitely not. I value my life, and would never take someone else's life away for something as trivial as wealth... especially when there are other perfectly legitimate ways of satisfying my material desires. Those of you answering yes - do you find it impossible to put yourselves in the shoes of the person who is being randomly killed to satisfy your obsession with easy money? Do you feel good about your sadistic and selfish combination of greed and laziness?MrGeezer

Well...yeah. I just got paid $10 million and I will never be held accountable for it.

I might have some guilt and I might have some nightmares, but I think that's worth $10 million.

Or maybe I don't think that's worth $10 million. Doesn't matter. I'd do it anyway.

You'd be surprised how easy it is to get someone to commit murder. Human beings, as a whole, are VERY willing to do horrible things if you reward them and convince them that SOMEONE ELSE is going to be held accountable. Once you've fulfilled those conditions, the VAST majority of people will do anything you say.

Now, I'd like to think that I'm in the small percentage of people who wouldn't comit murder under any circumstances. But I'm probably not. Everyone has their breaking point, and anyone is capable of anything. I don't trust anyone and there's no reason why I should treat myself any differently.

I suppose I'm not like the vast majority... but unfortunately, I have to agree with what you have written here. If you can toy with the idea of doing it, you're probably capable of doing it. I can't even consider doing it hypothetically. It runs contrary to everything I believe to be right, and I suppose I just don't care that much about money. I'm happy with what I make, and that is a far cry less than 10 million dollars. I don't even know what I'd do with that much money... there's nothing I want or need that costs that much, even over the course of my whole life.

[QUOTE="Whicker89"][QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="Whicker89"]Yeah, I'd keep 5 million and donate 5 millionpianist

That doesn't make you any better a person. Don't lie to yourself - 5 million dollars is far more than you deserve for premeditated, unprovoked murder. What you would actually deserve is to be locked in a small room for the rest of your life.

I don't think they'd be nearly so keen to give you 5 million dollars. Also, I think you're mistaken. I don't know of anyone who would give his or her life for charity. Time, yes. Money, yes. But life? Not a chance. Would you forfeit your life for charity?

Sure if it was garunteed to help them, I'd know my death had a meaning other than to end my life
Whicker89

Easy to say, hard to do. ;)

yea,i have no guilt.tree-branch

So you're a psycopath?

yea,i have no guilt.tree-branch

How is it? I mean, living without emotions?

[QUOTE="tree-branch"]yea,i have no guilt.IsNotInterestes

How is it? I mean, living without emotions?

I imagine actual psycopaths and sociopaths don't know that they lack emotion. Which is why I think he's lying.

I did make this thread not thinking about terrorist or Hitler type people. I was thinking the victim in question would be more along the lines of an average person, like you or me.

But reading all the responses has been...interesting....lol.

Apparently if I had 10 million dollars on my head, I'd be dead whether or not I'm an innocent guy lol.

Oh, my kill a puppy thread goes for 10 posts before getting locked, but this one goes on to 120Infinite-Zr0

Puppies are the dominant life-forms of the universe, though.

No. thats stupid b/c u would go to jail for life or get executed and u couldnt use that moneyMichaeltheCM

See, you're supposed to get beyond the title to the nugget of wordy goodness in the post.

No. thats stupid b/c u would go to jail for life or get executed and u couldnt use that moneyMichaeltheCM

assuming hypothetically you wouldn't get caught :D

I'd killsomeone for a thousand._Mjolnir_

I'd killsomeone for a thousand._Mjolnir_

I would

No. One thing money can't buy is morals and peace-of-mind. When it comes down to it, it's just wrinkly green paper with dead presidents on it. :|blackrytonite

...and it also runs North America. (and the world), So yeah, your right. Its JUST paper.