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#1 lightleggy
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i.e letting them play violent videogames or watch 18+ movies?

I would, since I dont believe all the crap about "your kid goes crazy and becomes a murder if you let him play violent videogames" and I Know that movies wont turn my kids into killers either...also I see myself as a good father and I think it would be fun to do something like playing videogames with my kids...and then I can show them all the great games that I played during my childhood/teenage years that they even havent heard about...good times indeed 8)

what about you? would you let them play stuff that is tagged as "18+ only"?

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#2 DroidPhysX
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No because their brain hasn't fully developed yet.

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#3 lightleggy
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No because their brain hasn't fully yet developed.

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thats not really related to playing violent stuff
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Depends on the age. I was allowed to watch R-rated movies when I was little and I didn't go too nuts.

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#5 Joshywaa
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

No because their brain hasn't fully yet developed.

lightleggy

thats not really related to playing violent stuff

It could warp their fragile little minds

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#6 DJ_Lae
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Yes, but I'd be selective about it. A lot of mature/R rated titles are on the edge of the rating. Halo is the first that comes to mind, as it really doesn't deserve its M rating in any way.
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#7 Gaming-Planet
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If I think they are mature enough. I don't really care about age.

I started playing rated M games and watching R-rated movies when I was 6. Nothing bad ever happened. A lot of confusion that only adults would understand though.

Guess it really depends on the movie and video game too. By the time your older, nothing really surprises you when you see a man get ripped in half on TV. You either laugh or find it amusing. A lot of people say violent media links to violent kids. That's not the case at all. Abusing a child would make them aggresive and trigger them into becoming bullies. They may get ideas afterwards from violent media, not because it's there, they were purposely looking for ideas.

There are still some things I would never give a child to or a teenager. They'll look at the smalls things about it and not the moral of the story.

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#8 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

No because their brain hasn't fully yet developed.

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thats not really related to playing violent stuff

It could warp their fragile little minds

there is no proof about this...as a matter of fact most kids play gory videogames since they are like 4-5 years old and none of them becomes a crazy psycho when they grow up... and actually videogames have been known to have many good effects on kids...increases eye sharpness (contrary to the stupid myth that says if you play too much videogames you go blind) motor skills, hell, I even learned english all on my own with videogames...
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#9 weezyfb
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let them? they will do or watch whatever the please., kids always find a way
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I wouldnt want my kids to see anything with sexual themes and nudity for sure. I'm not really sure how i would handle violence in the media. or if i would be upset if my kids saw drugs and drinking. i remember being 7 years old playing syphon filter for ps1. it had a lot of blood and violence. i understood the concept that a real gun would seriously hurt so i would never want to go violent it was jus a video game to me. but up to the age of 4 i did believe everything on the luny tunes was possible. i almost got seriously hurt tryin eat a pencil
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#11 lightleggy
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let them? they will do or watch whatever the please., kids always find a way weezyfb
the point is not that will always do it, the point is: will they have your support? also, I dont really think a 5 years old kid will find a way to play, say a PS3 game if there is no PS3 at his household...
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I wouldnt want my kids to see anything with sexual themes and nudity for sure. I'm not really sure how i would handle violence in the media. or if i would be upset if my kids saw drugs and drinking. i remember being 7 years old playing syphon filter for ps1. it had a lot of blood and violence. i understood the concept that a real gun would seriously hurt so i would never want to go violent it was jus a video game to me. but up to the age of 4 i did believe everything on the luny tunes was possible. i almost got seriously hurt tryin eat a pencilplaymynutz
see? the kids medio is always full of dangerous crap...I think that there have even been kids who killed their little brothers by making an anvil fall over them just because they say that happen at cartoon many times
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#13 JediXMan
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I wouldn't let them watch / play violent material until they were older. Like 16-17. Around that.

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#14 lightleggy
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I wouldn't let them watch / play violent material until they were older. Like 16-17. Around that.

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wow...I wouldnt like being your kids...well either way they will start doing so even without your permission when they are like 12 years old...
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#15 ionusX
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i wont have children.. there i have saved precious minds from getting torn to pieces

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#16 RenegadePatriot
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It all depends on how mature they were.
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Yes. As long as they have the money, they can give it to me and I will buy them nearly any games theywant while we're out browsing games at the game store. There are still some games that I will probably not allow my children to play, and hopefully, they will avoid those games on their own.

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#18 JediXMan
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[QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

I wouldn't let them watch / play violent material until they were older. Like 16-17. Around that.

lightleggy

wow...I wouldnt like being your kids...well either way they will start doing so even without your permission when they are like 12 years old...

That's a rather hostile response, no?

And it depends on what is being described as "violent material." There are different levels of M and R out there.

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#19 Ingenemployee
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Yeah, I watched plenty of violent movies when I was young and one of the first games I remember playing was Mortal Kombat and i turned out fine. I would just make sure the kid knew the difference between whats ok and whats not.

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[QUOTE="Joshywaa"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] thats not really related to playing violent stufflightleggy

It could warp their fragile little minds

there is no proof about this...as a matter of fact most kids play gory videogames since they are like 4-5 years old and none of them becomes a crazy psycho when they grow up... and actually videogames have been known to have many good effects on kids...increases eye sharpness (contrary to the stupid myth that says if you play too much videogames you go blind) motor skills, hell, I even learned english all on my own with videogames...

Run.

But seriously, I don't think there is sufficient evidence to support either case here of whether violent video games are harmful to children or not. It's up to the parent's discretion, ultimately, and I think I would be okay with my kids playing (certain) violent games. Depends on the realism of the violence...someone mentioned Halo a few posts back, I would have 0 problem with my child playing Halo. A game like The Darkness on the other hand? Hell no.

My english did improve with video games a (tiny) little bit(as it's not my first language), but it's not like it was a main factor like you seem to make it out to be :P

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#21 kev_stevens67
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[QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

I wouldn't let them watch / play violent material until they were older. Like 16-17. Around that.

lightleggy

wow...I wouldnt like being your kids...well either way they will start doing so even without your permission when they are like 12 years old...

I wouldn't either - In fact we don't have any rated 'R' movies or rated 'M' games in our house at all.

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[QUOTE="playmynutz"]I wouldnt want my kids to see anything with sexual themes and nudity for sure. I'm not really sure how i would handle violence in the media. or if i would be upset if my kids saw drugs and drinking. i remember being 7 years old playing syphon filter for ps1. it had a lot of blood and violence. i understood the concept that a real gun would seriously hurt so i would never want to go violent it was jus a video game to me. but up to the age of 4 i did believe everything on the luny tunes was possible. i almost got seriously hurt tryin eat a pencillightleggy
see? the kids medio is always full of dangerous crap...I think that there have even been kids who killed their little brothers by making an anvil fall over them just because they say that happen at cartoon many times

i was lied to a lot as a kid. like my family would play jokes on me trying to scare me. the 90's was a golden age for scary movies like childs play and puppet monsters. so my sibiling tricked me into thinking it was real. if my parents would have warned me the tv dipicted a lot of fakeness i would have understood even at the age of 4. before i jumped into the pool thinking its easy to swim becus mario could
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#23 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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No I would not. I think if the majority of pediatrician's and child psychiatrists believe that violent media has negative influence on kids, I'm going to go with their recommendations.

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#24 monkeytoes61
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Yes, my reasons are two fold. One, I played/watched pretty much anything from a young age, and I turned out fine. Second, it isn't real. So, who really cares?
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#25 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

I wouldn't let them watch / play violent material until they were older. Like 16-17. Around that.

JediXMan7

wow...I wouldnt like being your kids...well either way they will start doing so even without your permission when they are like 12 years old...

That's a rather hostile response, no?

And it depends on what is being described as "violent material." There are different levels of M and R out there.

its not hostile, just realistic...Im sure my parents wouldnt have liked to see me playing something like resident evil when I Was 7 years old
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#26 monkeytoes61
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Seeing things from a young age helped me a lot actually. I would watch America's Most Wanted when I was like five years old. I have no doubt in my mind that it made me way safer, because I knew the world was ****ed up. Why shield your kids from it when they will inevitably find out anyways? May as well let them know early, then they have more time to be prepared for it.
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#27 JediXMan
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[QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] wow...I wouldnt like being your kids...well either way they will start doing so even without your permission when they are like 12 years old...lightleggy

That's a rather hostile response, no?

And it depends on what is being described as "violent material." There are different levels of M and R out there.

its not hostile, just realistic...Im sure my parents wouldnt have liked to see me playing something like resident evil when I Was 7 years old

The "wow" was hostile. The follow up comment was, as well. The last sentence was "realistic," using that line of thinking.

What's your point? I don't think a seven year old should be playing RE and you do?

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#28 lightleggy
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No I would not. I think if the majority of pediatrician's and child psychiatrists believe that violent media has negative influence on kids, I'm going to go with their recommendations.

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dont trust on what they say...like I said there is almost 0 actual evidence that they harmful....what the psychiatrist (btw...psychologist is more likely to tell you something like that...a psychiatrist is someone who approaches the problem from an illness POV....so for example psychiatrist say the problem is a lack of a certain substance in the brain, while psychologist say its caused because of a traumatic experience... either way, most of the stuff that is said about kids playing violent video games is completly biased and false...hell...most of the things you've been thaught about psychology are fake....
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#29 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

That's a rather hostile response, no?

And it depends on what is being described as "violent material." There are different levels of M and R out there.

JediXMan7

its not hostile, just realistic...Im sure my parents wouldnt have liked to see me playing something like resident evil when I Was 7 years old

The "wow" was hostile. The follow up comment was, as well. The last sentence was "realistic," using that line of thinking.

What's your point? I don't think a seven year old should be playing RE and you do?

the "wow" was just a surprise reaction...I cant imagine a father not letting his 14 years old boy to play or watch a violent movie/game as for the RE thing, its not like say "THEY SHOULD ALL PLAY RE AS SOON AS THEY TURN 7 YEARS OLD!" but I Understand that they wont become psychos if they do
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[QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] its not hostile, just realistic...Im sure my parents wouldnt have liked to see me playing something like resident evil when I Was 7 years oldlightleggy

The "wow" was hostile. The follow up comment was, as well. The last sentence was "realistic," using that line of thinking.

What's your point? I don't think a seven year old should be playing RE and you do?

the "wow" was just a surprise reaction...I cant imagine a father not letting his 14 years old boy to play or watch a violent movie/game as for the RE thing, its not like say "THEY SHOULD ALL PLAY RE AS SOON AS THEY TURN 7 YEARS OLD!" but I Understand that they wont become psychos if they do

There is so much more to being a Father than letting your son play or watch violent movie/games. I really have no idea what your point really is here.

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#31 NeonNinja
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If I had kids I wouldn't. I would of course have to be the judge of what he/she would be allowed to play/watch depending on their age and personal maturity levels.

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I think it's actually better to let them play it and explain to them full well that it's fantasy so they don't get confused. A lot of parents just use movies and games as babysitters and don't take the time to explain what really went on.
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#33 JediXMan
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[QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] its not hostile, just realistic...Im sure my parents wouldnt have liked to see me playing something like resident evil when I Was 7 years oldlightleggy

The "wow" was hostile. The follow up comment was, as well. The last sentence was "realistic," using that line of thinking.

What's your point? I don't think a seven year old should be playing RE and you do?

the "wow" was just a surprise reaction...I cant imagine a father not letting his 14 years old boy to play or watch a violent movie/game as for the RE thing, its not like say "THEY SHOULD ALL PLAY RE AS SOON AS THEY TURN 7 YEARS OLD!" but I Understand that they wont become psychos if they do

Define "violent." There are a lot of levels of violence.

I don't think they will become psychos. That kid who killed his brother over a video game or killed his mother because she wouldn't let him play all had issues to begin with. I just feel that it is rather unhealthy. Why should they "mature" faster than they have to?

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It depends on the rating, it also depends on maturity but often when lil kids see content they shouldn't see then it'll corrupt them

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I think it's actually better to let them play it and explain to them full well that it's fantasy so they don't get confused. A lot of parents just use movies and games as babysitters and don't take the time to explain what really went on.

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Yes! I would make sure they understand the difference between movies/games they watch/play and reality.

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would i let an 8 year old play halo and watch murder the move? no
would i let a 15 year old do that, probably.
what i am getting at is it depends on the age, but i don't intend to ever have kids.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

The "wow" was hostile. The follow up comment was, as well. The last sentence was "realistic," using that line of thinking.

What's your point? I don't think a seven year old should be playing RE and you do?

JediXMan7

the "wow" was just a surprise reaction...I cant imagine a father not letting his 14 years old boy to play or watch a violent movie/game as for the RE thing, its not like say "THEY SHOULD ALL PLAY RE AS SOON AS THEY TURN 7 YEARS OLD!" but I Understand that they wont become psychos if they do

Define "violent." There are a lot of levels of violence.

I don't think they will become psychos. That kid who killed his brother over a video game or killed his mother because she wouldn't let him play all had issues to begin with. I just feel that it is rather unhealthy. Why should they "mature" faster than they have to?

exactly...all the kids who have murdered someone over a video game (which I believe is a small number...) had issues already, antisocial tendencies, the games didnt caused that, yet a lot of "experts in the field" just love to blame at something so they go around making campaigns like "video games are responsible for our society's status!" and how would playing a violent video game make them mature earlier? the first gory videogame I played was dino crisis when I was like 6 and I was still a kid with a kid's view on the world after playing it. also when I say violent I mean games with gore or tons of blood...I dont consider punching someone or war games as "violent video games"
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It depends on the rating, it also depends on maturity but often when lil kids see content they shouldn't see then it'll corrupt them

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Personally, I don't care about ratings. I think people pay too much attention to that. I think they should pay attention to why a game / movie is rated the way it is instead of what the rating itself is. In the internet age, there is no excuse for not knowing such things.

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exactly...all the kids who have murdered someone over a video game (which I believe is a small number...) had issues already, antisocial tendencies, the games didnt caused that, yet a lot of "experts in the field" just love to blame at something so they go around making campaigns like "video games are responsible for our society's status!" and how would playing a violent video game make them mature earlier? the first gory videogame I played was dino crisis when I was like 6 and I was still a kid with a kid's view on the world after playing it. also when I say violent I mean games with gore or tons of blood...I dont consider punching someone or war games as "violent video games"

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I remember Dino Crisis. My brother has a CD with PlayStation game demos, and Dino Crisis happened to be on there. My favorites were Tarzan, two Spyro sequelsand Tiny the Tank. :P

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[QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] the "wow" was just a surprise reaction...I cant imagine a father not letting his 14 years old boy to play or watch a violent movie/game as for the RE thing, its not like say "THEY SHOULD ALL PLAY RE AS SOON AS THEY TURN 7 YEARS OLD!" but I Understand that they wont become psychos if they dolightleggy

Define "violent." There are a lot of levels of violence.

I don't think they will become psychos. That kid who killed his brother over a video game or killed his mother because she wouldn't let him play all had issues to begin with. I just feel that it is rather unhealthy. Why should they "mature" faster than they have to?

exactly...all the kids who have murdered someone over a video game (which I believe is a small number...) had issues already, antisocial tendencies, the games didnt caused that, yet a lot of "experts in the field" just love to blame at something so they go around making campaigns like "video games are responsible for our society's status!" and how would playing a violent video game make them mature earlier? the first gory videogame I played was dino crisis when I was like 6 and I was still a kid with a kid's view on the world after playing it. also when I say violent I mean games with gore or tons of blood...I dont consider punching someone or war games as "violent video games"

I think that kids should be interested in age-appropriate things. Who decides what's age appropriate? I suppose the parents do. It all depends on the child. I think that if a child is exposed to mature-themed media then they may miss out of other things that are for their age group. But it depends on the child.

Alright. Just wanted to be clear.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

exactly...all the kids who have murdered someone over a video game (which I believe is a small number...) had issues already, antisocial tendencies, the games didnt caused that, yet a lot of "experts in the field" just love to blame at something so they go around making campaigns like "video games are responsible for our society's status!" and how would playing a violent video game make them mature earlier? the first gory videogame I played was dino crisis when I was like 6 and I was still a kid with a kid's view on the world after playing it. also when I say violent I mean games with gore or tons of blood...I dont consider punching someone or war games as "violent video games"

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I remember Dino Crisis. My brother has a CD with PlayStation game demos, and Dino Crisis happened to be on there. My favorites were Tarzan, two Spyro sequelsand Tiny the Tank. :P

dino crisis was quite a gory game, maybe not as gory as re but it did had its fair share of gore
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#42 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

Define "violent." There are a lot of levels of violence.

I don't think they will become psychos. That kid who killed his brother over a video game or killed his mother because she wouldn't let him play all had issues to begin with. I just feel that it is rather unhealthy. Why should they "mature" faster than they have to?

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exactly...all the kids who have murdered someone over a video game (which I believe is a small number...) had issues already, antisocial tendencies, the games didnt caused that, yet a lot of "experts in the field" just love to blame at something so they go around making campaigns like "video games are responsible for our society's status!" and how would playing a violent video game make them mature earlier? the first gory videogame I played was dino crisis when I was like 6 and I was still a kid with a kid's view on the world after playing it. also when I say violent I mean games with gore or tons of blood...I dont consider punching someone or war games as "violent video games"

I think that kids should be interested in age-appropriate things. Who decides what's age appropriate? I suppose the parents do. It all depends on the child. I think that if a child is exposed to mature-themed media then they may miss out of other things that are for their age group. But it depends on the child.

Alright. Just wanted to be clear.

you know kids who get the mini einteins educational cds are dumber than the ones who play violent video games
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#43 Necrifer
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dino crisis was quite a gory game, maybe not as gory as re but it did had its fair share of gore

lightleggy

I didn't get very far. The lighting and camera angles made me confused. (Keep in mind, I was a small kid at this time, maybe 4 or 5.)

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#44 paradigm68
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Most of the time I would just watch, play or listen whatever they want to see or do myself. Then I'll decide on whether or not they should see it. Also using tools like ESRB ratings and that IMDB parents guide I could also decide what would be right or not.
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#45 AutoPilotOn
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It depends on the kid and their ability to tell real life from games and movies. Some can handle it at a younger age and some can't
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#46 DoomZaW
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yup.

problem?

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[QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] exactly...all the kids who have murdered someone over a video game (which I believe is a small number...) had issues already, antisocial tendencies, the games didnt caused that, yet a lot of "experts in the field" just love to blame at something so they go around making campaigns like "video games are responsible for our society's status!" and how would playing a violent video game make them mature earlier? the first gory videogame I played was dino crisis when I was like 6 and I was still a kid with a kid's view on the world after playing it. also when I say violent I mean games with gore or tons of blood...I dont consider punching someone or war games as "violent video games"lightleggy

I think that kids should be interested in age-appropriate things. Who decides what's age appropriate? I suppose the parents do. It all depends on the child. I think that if a child is exposed to mature-themed media then they may miss out of other things that are for their age group. But it depends on the child.

Alright. Just wanted to be clear.

you know kids who get the mini einteins educational cds are dumber than the ones who play violent video games

Point? Link? etc. Our son is learning just fine without either. Still not sure what your point was though.

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#48 Treflis
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I wouldn't put my four year old down to see a Saw movie to put it like that, But I would let the kid watch some movies or play games intended for older people provided I know what it's about, what's in them and if my kid is mature for his/her age.
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Depends on the kid
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#50 mems_1224
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depends on the game i guess. i wouldn't want my kids to play a game that has too much blood, cursing or limbs flying everywhere like gears of war until they're older, at least in like middle school. plus they're gonna have more limits on how much they play and how much tv they watch unlike me