Would you support the death penality if YOU had to kill the condemned?

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#1 IndigoSunrise
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Just a question. Would you? Its easy for people to say that someone deserves to die for their crimes but if the government called upon you to do it would you?

What if executing people was like jury duty?

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#2 Bourbons3
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I don't support the death penalty anyway. I'm sure that having to kill someone myself would make it even harder to justify or go through with.
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#3 corwinn01
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I would do it.

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#4 MgamerBD
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depends on what they did....
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#5 10thwonder
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depends on what they did....MgamerBD

This. If they were rapists and child molestors, I wouldn't even hesitate.

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#6 Im_single
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If it was a vicious and uncalled for crime and I believed they fully deserved to die I might do it, can't say unless I was put into that position.
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#7 Funky_Llama
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Just a question. Would you? Its easy for people to say that someone deserves to die for their crimes but if the government called upon you to do it would you?

What if executing people was like jury duty?

IndigoSunrise

Now I don't support the death penalty, but this isn't a good argument. Plenty of people would be too grossed out by, for example, being a surgeon. That doesn't mean you could argue on that basis that being a surgeon is immoral.

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#8 chessmaster1989
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I don't support the death penalty under any circumstances...
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#9 Theokhoth
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I'm sure I would if I supported the death penalty. Hell, there are some convicts out that I'd probably enjoy killling.

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#10 WhiteSnake5000
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I'd enjoy it.

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#11 GabuEx
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Now I don't support the death penalty, but this isn't a good argument. Plenty of people would be too grossed out by, for example, being a surgeon. That doesn't mean you could argue on that basis that being a surgeon is immoral.

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Hey, there's a change; I get to ditto you this time. :P

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#12 tzar3
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I wouldn't mind at all.

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#13 MuddVader
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That person isnt being forced to do that job. So for me it would be the mindset of, "I would rather I do it than let another person have to commit such a travesty. . ." if I took that job. Its like the people who work for the humane society who have to put animals down. I dont think they do it because they like it.

Edit: This one time my sister stupidly brought some kittens home from somewhere, and we had to call the humane society so they could pick them up, and the guy said since they were so young he would have to kill them if he took them... not exactly in those words, but I felt horrible... He even sounded sad and said "Dude, dont do this to me" but I didnt have a choice in the matter...

Edit2: I notice my comments are only partly on topic, but whatever, sorry about that.

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#14 Link256
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I do not support the death penalty to begin with.

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#15 Omni-Slash
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absolutely..there are those that I would have no qualms pulling the trigger or flipping the switch on myself....
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#16 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

Now I don't support the death penalty, but this isn't a good argument. Plenty of people would be too grossed out by, for example, being a surgeon. That doesn't mean you could argue on that basis that being a surgeon is immoral.

GabuEx

Hey, there's a change; I get to ditto you this time. :P

'bout time we agreed on something other than evolution for a change. :P
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#17 SolidSnake35
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It's just a bad idea to outsource such a thing, haha. It should be a very impersonal thing and not something that should gross someone out or give someone kicks.
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#18 IndigoSunrise
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absolutely..there are those that I would have no qualms pulling the trigger or flipping the switch on myself....Omni-Slash
what if you had to do it in front of their family?
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#19 MgamerBD
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]absolutely..there are those that I would have no qualms pulling the trigger or flipping the switch on myself....IndigoSunrise
what if you had to do it in front of their family?

I find that to be funny
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#20 zombiefruit
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Yeah, I'd love killing terrible people.
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#21 IndigoSunrise
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[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]absolutely..there are those that I would have no qualms pulling the trigger or flipping the switch on myself....MgamerBD
what if you had to do it in front of their family?

I find that to be funny

What if it was a member of YOUR family?
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#22 IndigoSunrise
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Yeah, I'd love killing terrible people.zombiefruit
Not every murderer is a Ted Bundy. Its easy to dehumanize people you don't like isn't it?
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#23 USMC_91
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If it was for murder or rape, I'd do it with my bare hands.
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#24 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] what if you had to do it in front of their family?IndigoSunrise
I find that to be funny

What if it was a member of YOUR family?

What exactly is the point you're trying to prove?

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#25 jrhawk42
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I'm against the death penalty, but I'd definately be pro death penalty if I got to kill the condemned. On a side note would I get to eat their last meal w/ them also cause that would just be awesome.

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#26 Omni-Slash
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what if you had to do it in front of their family?IndigoSunrise
No qualms....Id be sorry for their loss but then I'd happily do it..there are plenty of scum that doen't deserve to see another sunrise... you don't get on death row for passing out kittens to orphaned kids.....
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#27 NaiveChild
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I don't support the death penalty no matter what. Returning evil for evil is never good. I think anyone who is willing to kill in the name of justice, even indirectly, is misguided and acting without considering what is truly in their best interest.

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#28 catrocity
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If they deserve it then I would do it. I think that would be a pretty easy job, too. Get paid to push the electric chair button or whatever :) People should be allowed to do that if they were affected by the person on death row.
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#29 MuddVader
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[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] What if it was a member of YOUR family? IndigoSunrise
If that person did something so horrid that they got the death penalty than the chances are I would hardly feel bad for them anymore...
[QUOTE="zombiefruit"]Yeah, I'd love killing terrible people.IndigoSunrise
Not every murderer is a Ted Bundy. Its easy to dehumanize people you don't like isn't it?

Not everybody who kills gets the death penalty.
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"]Yeah, I'd love killing terrible people.IndigoSunrise
Not every murderer is a Ted Bundy. Its easy to dehumanize people you don't like isn't it?

No, it's logical. Try to find one thing that benefits society by keeping racists around. There is no positive to racism. If I could I would kill every racist on the planet. I would kill them with my hands, a knife, anything. I don't think with my heart, I think with my mind.
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#31 Omni-Slash
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What if it was a member of YOUR family? IndigoSunrise
IF he/ she did something to deserve the death penalty....I'd do my duty to do it.....would it hurt?..yes....but if society is better off without them...so am I...
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#32 Aquat1cF1sh
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I don't support the death penalty even now, so when it comes to me having to do the killing, signs point to no.
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#33 CVM_123
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some ppl deserve to dieee!!! :D

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#34 IndigoSunrise
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[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]What if it was a member of YOUR family? Omni-Slash
IF he/ she did something to deserve the death penalty....I'd do my duty to do it.....would it hurt?..yes....but if society is better off without them...so am I...

So...its okay to kill people who don't do anything for society?
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[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"][QUOTE="zombiefruit"]Yeah, I'd love killing terrible people.zombiefruit
Not every murderer is a Ted Bundy. Its easy to dehumanize people you don't like isn't it?

No, it's logical. Try to find one thing that benefits society by keeping racists around. There is no positive to racism. If I could I would kill every racist on the planet. I would kill them with my hands, a knife, anything. I don't think with my heart, I think with my mind.

So this is a racism thread now? O_o
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#36 duxup
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I don't support it either way. Having said that I support some folks doing stuff I can't / would not want to do.
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#37 IndigoSunrise
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[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"][QUOTE="zombiefruit"]Yeah, I'd love killing terrible people.zombiefruit
Not every murderer is a Ted Bundy. Its easy to dehumanize people you don't like isn't it?

No, it's logical. Try to find one thing that benefits society by keeping racists around. There is no positive to racism. If I could I would kill every racist on the planet. I would kill them with my hands, a knife, anything. I don't think with my heart, I think with my mind.

Racism is a belief. You'd kill people for their beliefs?
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#38 Omni-Slash
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So...its okay to kill people who don't do anything for society? IndigoSunrise
did I say that?....grasping at straws are we?....:lol:
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#39 Zerocrossings
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Well, if its my job yeah.. Thats like saying, "would you support cleaniless if you were one who had to sweep the streets?"

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#40 battlefront23
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Depends on the crime. If it was child pornography, rape, or murder, I'd have no remorse in terminating that dirtbag's life.

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#41 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"][QUOTE="zombiefruit"]Yeah, I'd love killing terrible people.zombiefruit
Not every murderer is a Ted Bundy. Its easy to dehumanize people you don't like isn't it?

No, it's logical. Try to find one thing that benefits society by keeping racists around. There is no positive to racism. If I could I would kill every racist on the planet. I would kill them with my hands, a knife, anything. I don't think with my heart, I think with my mind.

A racist isn't necessarily a racist and nothing else. So while you're out slashing throats, we could be destroying racism as a concept instead.
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#42 IndigoSunrise
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[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]what if you had to do it in front of their family?Omni-Slash
No qualms....Id be sorry for their loss but then I'd happily do it..there are plenty of scum that doen't deserve to see another sunrise... you don't get on death row for passing out kittens to orphaned kids.....

See this is what bothers me. People act like a single action makes a person a monster devoid of thoughts, wishes, dreams, hopes desires, affections and loved ones. Your taking away their humanity when you do that. How are you better than them?
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] Not every murderer is a Ted Bundy. Its easy to dehumanize people you don't like isn't it?

No, it's logical. Try to find one thing that benefits society by keeping racists around. There is no positive to racism. If I could I would kill every racist on the planet. I would kill them with my hands, a knife, anything. I don't think with my heart, I think with my mind.

A racist isn't necessarily a racist and nothing else. So while you're out slashing throats, we could be destroying racism as a concept instead.

Racism as a concept could never be eclipsed permanently, though I wish it could. It has to do with man's nature and his fear of the unknown...
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]what if you had to do it in front of their family?IndigoSunrise
No qualms....Id be sorry for their loss but then I'd happily do it..there are plenty of scum that doen't deserve to see another sunrise... you don't get on death row for passing out kittens to orphaned kids.....

See this is what bothers me. People act like a single action makes a person a monster devoid of thoughts, wishes, dreams, hopes desires, affections and loved ones. Your taking away their humanity when you do that. How are you better than them?

Practically speaking, and assuming that a person is guilty, what is the difference between killing someone and locking them up forever? Both are basically ensuring that they will no longer have much of a life to lead.

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#45 IndigoSunrise
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[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] So...its okay to kill people who don't do anything for society? Omni-Slash
did I say that?....grasping at straws are we?....:lol:

You said they do nothing for society. You said that you would kill a family member who commited a crime worthy in your mind of death. Is that persons entire life defined by a single action?
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#46 Omni-Slash
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See this is what bothers me. People act like a single action makes a person a monster devoid of thoughts, wishes, dreams, hopes desires, affections and loved ones. Your taking away their humanity when you do that. How are you better than them? IndigoSunrise
a single action doesn't get you the death penelty..Two Felonies (One being murder) must be commited for the death penealty to be considered.......when someone rapes/murders their dreams are of no consequence to me..why?... because they took somone's dreams for no reason other than their own desire to.....me taking that person's life was not my decision...it was the decision of the person who commited said crimes.....yes..thier loved ones will be sad..but their grief does not compair to the grief of the victim's family....because their loved one made the decision to commit the acts....

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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] Not every murderer is a Ted Bundy. Its easy to dehumanize people you don't like isn't it? IndigoSunrise
No, it's logical. Try to find one thing that benefits society by keeping racists around. There is no positive to racism. If I could I would kill every racist on the planet. I would kill them with my hands, a knife, anything. I don't think with my heart, I think with my mind.

Racism is a belief. You'd kill people for their beliefs?

Yes. This is not YOUR world, this is our world, and if someone's misguided and illogical beliefs effect others then I would gladly kill them.
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#48 IndigoSunrise
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[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]No qualms....Id be sorry for their loss but then I'd happily do it..there are plenty of scum that doen't deserve to see another sunrise... you don't get on death row for passing out kittens to orphaned kids.....GabuEx

See this is what bothers me. People act like a single action makes a person a monster devoid of thoughts, wishes, dreams, hopes desires, affections and loved ones. Your taking away their humanity when you do that. How are you better than them?

Practically speaking, and assuming that a person is guilty, what is the difference between killing someone and locking them up forever? Both are basically ensuring that they will no longer have much of a life to lead.

Both are unethical. I'm not trying to make a arguement against the death penality. I'm asking people not to dehumanize the people they kill. The death penality is an easy platform to support because the people that support it don't have to see the end result of it. Its easy to assume every person on death row is a inhuman dracula or frankenstien.
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Racism as a concept could never be eclipsed permanently, though I wish it could. It has to do with man's nature and his fear of the unknown...battlefront23
Maybe but racism to me isn't the problem. The problem is when people act on their 'racist' thoughts, becoming violent etc... and we should already be cracking down on such things, racist or not.
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="zombiefruit"] No, it's logical. Try to find one thing that benefits society by keeping racists around. There is no positive to racism. If I could I would kill every racist on the planet. I would kill them with my hands, a knife, anything. I don't think with my heart, I think with my mind.

A racist isn't necessarily a racist and nothing else. So while you're out slashing throats, we could be destroying racism as a concept instead.

Racism as a concept could never be eclipsed permanently, though I wish it could. It has to do with man's nature and his fear of the unknown...

No it doesn't. You don't know that. You say things like that without actually thinking about it.