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#51 pianist
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[QUOTE="pianist"]No. Not because I have anything against homosexuality, but because I do have something against sacrificing who you are in the pursuit of money.BiancaDK
Hmm... I see your point, but... In reality you must admit that we undergo a constant state of change, both physically and mentally, but this one will actually grant you one million u.s dollars. TC did not point out that anything other than your sexual orientation would change, so it could be boiled down to you basically acting on a different set of pheromones than before the change occured. Ofcourse theres more to sexual orientation than that, but as far as science have stated, its not that much more. Sure it will rock the boat, but so many things rock the boat, this one just gives you a nice big fat paycheck to go with it? Thinking you can remain static in mind would be naive, so i assume it has nothing to do with you hoping for this. So it must be a question of morality or ethicality with you; leaving me to question what your reasoning behind your choice not to take him up on the offer would be? :) I know you must have a good reason, hence my curiosity.

My objection to this is rooted in my distaste for those who have an obsession with 'easy money.' I would be a hypocrite if I allowed my sexuality to be changed for no other reason than to acquire a million dollars. If I WANTED to become homosexual, then I see no problem with this, but doing it just to acquire easy money strikes the wrong chord with me.

People ask this sort of question all the time with different terms, but my answer is always the same. I don't want people to give me money for doing nothing of consequence, and I certainly won't sacrifice who I fundamentally am in its pursuit.

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#52 SpaceMoose
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[QUOTE="jazzkrotch"]

[QUOTE="pianist"]No. Not because I have anything against homosexuality, but because I do have something against sacrificing who you are in the pursuit of money.pianist

Money, prostitutional paydirt, what's the difference?

Th difference is that you can probably earn a million dollars without affecting such a drastic change in who you are. It doesn't really matter what the terms of the deal are - I always answer no to these sorts of questions. Whether it be "killing someone I hate," "inflicting ______ injury on yourself," or "changing your sexuality," I always find the obsession with easy money to be rather pathetic.

You could always donate it to charity.
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#53 jazzkrotch
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[QUOTE="jazzkrotch"]

[QUOTE="pianist"]No. Not because I have anything against homosexuality, but because I do have something against sacrificing who you are in the pursuit of money.pianist

Money, prostitutional paydirt, what's the difference?

Th difference is that you can probably earn a million dollars without affecting such a drastic change in who you are. It doesn't really matter what the terms of the deal are - I always answer no to these sorts of questions. Whether it be "killing someone I hate," "inflicting ______ injury on yourself," or "changing your sexuality," I always find the obsession with easy money to be rather pathetic.

Beautifully said. Pardon my Mischief Mode (it was loaded for ulterior reasons)

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#54 Lockedge
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No. Not because I have anything against homosexuality, but because I do have something against sacrificing who you are in the pursuit of money.pianist
Hrm. This is a serious point. Makes sense, yet...doesn't work for me. I don't care about sex so the million dollars would help me with all my medical bills. That will actually go towards helping me be me. *shrug*
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#55 pianist
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You could always donate it to charity.SpaceMoose

Regardless of what you do with it, it's still unearned. And though I tend to be sympathetic to other people, I'm still a selfish person at my core. I wouldn't inflict injury on myself or sacrifice a significant part of who I am for people I do not know, unless their lives depended on it, in which case I'd find myself with a very difficult decision to make. I frankly doubt I'll ever have to make such a decision, and so I haven't devoted much thought to it. It'd be a stressful situation, and we can rarely predict how we'll react under such circumstances until placed in that position.

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#56 pianist
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Beautifully said. Pardon my Mischief Mode (it was loaded for ulterior reasons)

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#57 Bourbons3
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Where's my million dollars?
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#58 BiancaDK
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="pianist"]No. Not because I have anything against homosexuality, but because I do have something against sacrificing who you are in the pursuit of money.pianist

Hmm... I see your point, but... In reality you must admit that we undergo a constant state of change, both physically and mentally, but this one will actually grant you one million u.s dollars. TC did not point out that anything other than your sexual orientation would change, so it could be boiled down to you basically acting on a different set of pheromones than before the change occured. Ofcourse theres more to sexual orientation than that, but as far as science have stated, its not that much more. Sure it will rock the boat, but so many things rock the boat, this one just gives you a nice big fat paycheck to go with it? Thinking you can remain static in mind would be naive, so i assume it has nothing to do with you hoping for this. So it must be a question of morality or ethicality with you; leaving me to question what your reasoning behind your choice not to take him up on the offer would be? :) I know you must have a good reason, hence my curiosity.

My objection to this is rooted in my distaste for those who have an obsession with 'easy money.' I would be a hypocrite if I allowed my sexuality to be changed for no other reason than to acquire a million dollars. If I WANTED to become homosexual, then I see no problem with this, but doing it just to acquire easy money strikes the wrong chord with me.

People ask this sort of question all the time with different terms, but my answer isn't the same. I don't want people to give me money for doing nothing of consequence, and I certainly won't sacrifice who I fundamentally am in its pursuit.

Are you sure youre being as rational as your limits allow you to be right now? (not to be taken in a provocative way) It seems to be an issue largely based on pure emotion with you.
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#59 pianist
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Are you sure youre being as rational as your limits allow you to be right now? (not to be taken in a provocative way) It seems to be an issue largely based on pure emotion with you.BiancaDK

That emotion is part of who I am, too. Many of our decisions will be driven by a combination of emotion and logic, and there isn't a problem with that, provided that a decision not be driven too heavily by either factor. There is very obviously an emotional element to my decision, but I can say this with certainty - it's what I am compelled to believe. And it has nothing at all to do with whether or not this is the most logical course of action, because in a materialistic world, the most logical position for a single young person like myself who would not be affecting any loved ones adversely by the decision would be to take the sex change for the money and move somewhere that is tolerant of homosexuality.

Maybe if money was more important to me I would have a different point of view. But it's not, and so I can't help but see this (or any of the other terms) as sacrificing something that is important to me for something which is of little importance to me.

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#60 BiancaDK
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

Are you sure youre being as rational as your limits allow you to be right now? (not to be taken in a provocative way) It seems to be an issue largely based on pure emotion with you.pianist

That emotion is part of who I am, too. Many of our decisions will be driven by a combination of emotion and logic, and there isn't a problem with that. There is very obviously an emotional element to my decision, but I can say this with certainty - it's what I am compelled to believe. And it has nothing at all to do with whether or not this is the most logical course of action, because in a materialistic world, the most logical position for a single young person like myself who would not be affecting any loved ones adversely by the decision would be to take the sex change for the money and move somewhere that is tolerant of homosexuality.

Maybe if money was more important to me I would have a different point of view. But it's not, and so I can't help but see this (or any of the other terms) as sacrificing something that is important to me for something which is of little importance to me.

Thank you for the clarification :) As expected, you have valid points based on the irrefutable :P no fun! :(
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#61 SpaceMoose
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That emotion is part of who I am, too. Many of our decisions will be driven by a combination of emotion and logic, and there isn't a problem with that, provided that a decision not be driven too heavily by either factor. There is very obviously an emotional element to my decision, but I can say this with certainty - it's what I am compelled to believe. And it has nothing at all to do with whether or not this is the most logical course of action, because in a materialistic world, the most logical position for a single young person like myself who would not be affecting any loved ones adversely by the decision would be to take the sex change for the money and move somewhere that is tolerant of homosexuality.

Maybe if money was more important to me I would have a different point of view. But it's not, and so I can't help but see this (or any of the other terms) as sacrificing something that is important to me for something which is of little importance to me.

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So being heterosexual is important to you simply because that's what you happen to already be?
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#62 pianist
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Thank you for the clarification :) As expected, you have valid points based on the irrefutable :P no fun! :(BiancaDK

Well, I beg to differ. It was fun. To be honest, you and a couple others here forced me to think about exactly why it is I hold the position I do, and why I always answer no to these questions without much consideration. Having one's beliefs challenged is never a bad thing. I think that's the last post for me tonight. Weekend or not, it's getting late...

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#63 pianist
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So being heterosexual is important to you simply because that's what you happen to already be? SpaceMoose

Yes. I like who I am. And more importantly, I like who I am more than I like large sums of money. Add to that a distaste for pursuing large sums of money without contributing anything of value to anybody, and you have the recipe for a person who will not alter himself in any way in pursuit of a large sum of unearned money.

It's important to understand that my issue here is with the proposed reward, not with the requirement. I would gladly become homosexual if it meant saving the life of someone in my family or one of my close friends.

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#64 SpaceMoose
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[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]So being heterosexual is important to you simply because that's what you happen to already be? pianist

Yes. I like who I am. And more importantly, I like who I am more than I like large sums of money. Add to that a distaste for pursuing large sums of money without contributing anything of value to anybody, and you have the recipe for a person who will not alter himself in any way in pursuit of a large sum of unearned money.

How about if I flip the question around then? Let's say you had just over a million dollars in your bank account that you "earned." Would you pay a million dollars to not be turned homosexual? As I'm sure you can see, it is basically the same question. The net result is the same anyway.

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#65 pianist
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[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]So being heterosexual is important to you simply because that's what you happen to already be? SpaceMoose

Yes. I like who I am. And more importantly, I like who I am more than I like large sums of money. Add to that a distaste for pursuing large sums of money without contributing anything of value to anybody, and you have the recipe for a person who will not alter himself in any way in pursuit of a large sum of unearned money.

How about if I flip the question around then? Let's say you had a million dollars in your bank account that you "earned." Would you pay a million dollars to not be turned homosexual then? As I'm sure you can see, it is basically the same question. The net result is the same anyway.

Last post from me tonight... this time for real. This is a much different and more difficult question to answer, because you're now asking me not to pursue an exorbitant amount of money, but rather to safeguard money I HAVE earned. I do value money I have earned through my musical activities, and I do not have a specific objection to homosexuality, despite the fact that I prefer being heterosexual, if only because I don't have to deal with bigots who feel I'm violating their religious laws by being who I am.

In this instance, I could see myself letting whoever was making the proposal change my sex. But I could also see myself suggesting a compromise - sacrifice the majority of that million dollars to preserve my current state of being, seeing as I have little use for a million dollars to begin with. My financial needs are considerably less extravagant. And I could also see myself simply calling the police and turning this lunatic in.

But there are some problems with your hypothetical scenario, because I doubt I'll ever find myself with a million earned dollars. And no one would be bizarre enough to make such a proposal or have the ability to enforce it. :lol:

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Yes I would. It seems like a small sacrifice and the amount of positive change that I could affect in the lives of friends that are younger and healthier than myself would seem rather substantial in my viewpoint.
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#67 KingNinjaFist
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I'd do it. Girls are hot :DDeihjan

Thats easy for you too say lol

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#68 solidgamer
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no thanks ill rather have sex with women
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#69 freek666
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Would all previous heterosexual thoughts and desires be erased or will I have to bear them in homosexuality?
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#70 aliblabla2007
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No. I'd get cash, but my social life would be absolutely ruined. The people in Malaysia aren't very tolerant of homosexuals (I'm an exception) and I don't think being rich is a good exchange for being extremely unhappy socially.
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#71 Skeleton--Man
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Can you take half the money and be bisexual?
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#72 SpaceMoose
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no thanks ill rather have sex with women solidgamer
If that wasn't the case then you'd already be a homosexual and the question wouldn't apply to you. Why do people not get that? Is it really that hard to comprehend?
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#73 SpaceMoose
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Can you take half the money and be bisexual?Skeleton--Man
No.
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#74 Zerocrossings
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No. I earn my own money.
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Kaka gets paid that in a week. Up the ante.
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#76 IamLegend316
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Sexuality is a priceless quality.
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If you could be given a million dollars, but the catch is that taking it would turn you irreversibly into a homosexual, and everyone you knew would know that you made that exchange, would you take it?

(If you are already a homosexual, then I might ask the alternative question of if you would choose to become straight, with no money involved either way. I really don't think there is a good one-to-one equivalent question here.)

This question isn't meant as a slight against homosexuals or anything. This is more of a social psychology question. Also, what country do you live in? (Be even more specific about where you live if you like.) I saw the thread title, "If you could be the opposite sex for a day, what are three things you'd do?" and it got me to think this up.

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This is great. I like men but I don't want to be gay so I get a million dollars and I get to be straight. It's a win win situation

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#78 WestSideAzn
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maybe if it was $500 million
but no i wouldn't my butthole is exit onlyGC4ever
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#79 The_Last_Ride
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Nope, i would never do it
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#80 SpaceMoose
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This is great. I like men but I don't want to be gay so I get a million dollars and I get to be straight. It's a win win situation

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No, it doesn't say that at all.
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#81 not_wanted
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No **** way.
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#82 chessmaster1989
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Probably not. I live in America, and we seem to have something against homosexuals here... (not I personally, but a lot of Americans do...)
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#83 iam2green
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i gues, if it made me a homosexual- if u think about it ur straight like girls but made u homosexual which means like the same it would equal too the same thing.
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#84 remmbermytitans
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Not for a million.
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#85 super_mario_128
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Being homo yes. I'd prefer to be straight though.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoes :cry: never
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoes :cry: neverPrinceofSarcasm
Why not? :o You might enjoy it!
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#88 Vandalvideo
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*Scratches his chin* Hmmm... Well hypothetically speaking I'm rich and I would be content since I would be turned homosexual and it would be something I would enjoy. I don't see any reason why I wouldn't take the briefcase. The me now wouldn't be the same person, but that person which follows after will have a great life!
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#89 randomhero5677
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If I were a girl then yes. Yes I would:D