Wow... I can't believe that some people think that 9/11 is a conspiracy

Here we go again.

Welcome to 6 years ago OP.

Here's the thing, if the whole thing was a conspiracy, then why are these clowns who pout that it was all a conspiracy still alive?

If it's a conspiracy, then a few more lives taken to ensure that the secret never gets out would seem like a logical action.

no matter what your belief, you could see somewhat of a point. I mean the US gov. could have done it for yet another reason to go into Iraq since there were obviously no 'weapons of mass destruction' there.

Me however, i dont think it was a hoax, i can't believe a countries own government would attack..itself?

Welcome to 6 years ago OP.

Here's the thing, if the whole thing was a conspiracy, then why are these clowns who pout that it was all a conspiracy still alive?

If it's a conspiracy, then a few more lives taken to ensure that the secret never gets out would seem like a logical action.

Judza

No ones believing them so why bother kill them? :D

For one thing the current US goevernemt would do anything to give a reason to their actions and further their agenda. Im sorry but I lived in Washington DC and I passed the Pentagon on regular basis while going to a BestBuy across the river. After the attack on the Pentagon I saw nothing that would show that a plane had hit. The hole was too small, there was no debree from a plane, the front lawn was left untouched. Im not saying this says that 9/11 was a hoax Im just saying it makes me wonder. rzepak

Yep what a small hole;

For a passanger flight boeing? yes it is.rzepak

Why would it need to be bigger? Keep in mind that the wings don't cause holes.

WHILE I know nothing about this situation per se, it's common knowledge amongst political thinkers, that governments need catalytic events to occur in order for the citizens in great numbers to agree to bold new action. Though Rosevelt was inclined to enter WWII brfore Pearl Harber, it took Pearl Harbor for him to feel enabled to do it

Woodrow Wilson, though president of a supposedly neutral country during WWI,clearly baited the Gemans into an "open sea" confrontation to propell America into that war.Of course,back then, the precident had always been to stay out of the constant European back and forth fighting, so this was a major readjustment of our political stance in the world, and the very reason that WWI was , indeed, a world war .

There are enough ppl out there, who believe that the ends justifies the means in all walks of life, so who's to say what our giovernment is capable of!In reality, the US has been spoiled,Russia lost 20 million ppl in WWII,what did we lose, 100,000?

\Not much of a sacrifice, relatively speaking; so we had 3000 ppl die in 2001.Is the devastation that we've heaped on Iraq and Afghanistan sufficient payback? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzironic, the only country to have used nucleur weapons on another country in the past is having a national debate about whether Iran can be trusted with nucleur weapons and if we shoulkd take preemptive actions to keep that from happening.Finally, the only thing that matters is what ppl think is true, not what is true.We all think that911 was caused by Arab terrorists but, who knows, maybe they were just the fall guys

[QUOTE="rzepak"]For a passanger flight boeing? yes it is.DeeJayInphinity

Why would it need to be bigger? Keep in mind that the wings don't cause holes.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]For a passanger flight boeing? yes it is.Yongying

Why would it need to be bigger? Keep in mind that the wings don't cause holes.

There was a lot of debris from the plane both on the outside and the inside of the building. Loose Change just decided not to show it to your for some odd reason.

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[QUOTE="rzepak"]For a passanger flight boeing? yes it is.DeeJayInphinity

Why would it need to be bigger? Keep in mind that the wings don't cause holes.

There was a lot of debris from the plane both on the outside and the inside of the building. Loose Change just decided not to show it to your for some odd reason.

Show me.Yongying

Loose Change Guide

Half-way down the page. That should also answer any other questions you have.

Also:

Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

Yeh i havn't seen this before. Videos that were on the news, on the net don't show these. Kinda fishy.Yongying

Well the videos on the net have an agenda and the news videos did show the debris.

no matter what your belief, you could see somewhat of a point. I mean the US gov. could have done it for yet another reason to go into Iraq since there were obviously no 'weapons of mass destruction' there.

Me however, i dont think it was a hoax, i can't believe a countries own government would attack..itself?

Cursed_Shadow

everything is posible!

Here's the thing, if the whole thing was a conspiracy, then why are these clowns who pout that it was all a conspiracy still alive?

Judza

...because everyone calls them 'clowns'?

Hell, if everyone who said it was a conspiracy suddenly 'disappeared', then it would obviously be a conspiracy. As it is, nobody takes them seriously...so if it is a conspiracy, there's no harm done.

As for my opinion on the topic, I wouldn't be suprised (and honestly don't really care either way).

It's moronic to think that way.Travo_basic

ROFL... I was reading an article about how some people in this world think that the US gov't set up 9/11 to be the biggest haox ever... Man... man can get pretty stupid sometimes. mr-sheep

You know, should 9/11 actually be a government doing, it wouldn;t be the first.

Some time during the Kennedy administration someone suggested to the president that attacking their own country would give them just cause to go after Cuba, JKF naturally declined and fired the person who suggested it. And i really would not be surprised if Bush didn't decline a proposal like that. Plus the whole thing about the CIA evacuating both towers, going in themselves for a few hours, coiming out and letting everyone back in again a few weeks before it happened...

And the building quite a bit away from the Trade Centre which held a lot of financial records that mysteriously clapsed all on its own during the 9/11 attack...

[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]ROFL... I was reading an article about how some people in this world think that the US gov't set up 9/11 to be the biggest haox ever... Man... man can get pretty stupid sometimes. Apollo5000

You know, should 9/11 actually be a government doing, it wouldn;t be the first.

Some time during the Kennedy administration someone suggested to the president that attacking their own country would give them just cause to go after Cuba, JKF naturally declined and fired the person who suggested it. And i really would not be surprised if Bush didn't decline a proposal like that. Plus the whole thing about the CIA evacuating both towers, going in themselves for a few hours, coiming out and letting everyone back in again a few weeks before it happened...

And the building quite a bit away from the Trade Centre which held a lot of financial records that mysteriously clapsed all on its own during the 9/11 attack...

What does that have to do with any of this?

Wouldn't be the first? Yes it would; your first statement doesn't count since the dude got fired and all. Don't bring past administrations into this.

I've no idea what you're reffering to. In any case, that's still not enough proof to suggest that they were involved in the destruction of the WTC. There were bomb-sniffing dogs in the building the whole time. You're telling me that the CIA bribed the dogs?

Which building was that?

The plane's wings COULDN'T have made ANY DAMAGE to the pentagon, for the simple reason that a planes wings are attached using tape.Total-KO

They did do damage, they just didn't affect the size of the hole made by the cabin. The cabin itself is not very wide, most of the length comes from the wings, thus, the main hole would't have to be very big.

This just reminded me, omfg does anyone have that video of the news reporter who says "zomg new report than another building near wth world trade center has collapsed" and you can see that building behind him and it hasn't even collapsed yet, first time I saw it i never put much thought into it but that is probably 1 of the most convicining things that makes you say WTF I don't think we are being told everything here. Oh and it wasn't even just 1 reporter, it then changes to people in the UK on the news repeating it and it shows the time in the corner and then it says like "4:02 pm" 4 minutes before the actual building collapsed, or whatever.Brainkiller05

I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saying that the news reporters were controlling the "demolition"? Or are you saying that their commentating was scripted? Or are you saying that they have physic abilities? Or maybe the audio and video were out of sync.

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]This just reminded me, omfg does anyone have that video of the news reporter who says "zomg new report than another building near wth world trade center has collapsed" and you can see that building behind him and it hasn't even collapsed yet, first time I saw it i never put much thought into it but that is probably 1 of the most convicining things that makes you say WTF I don't think we are being told everything here. Oh and it wasn't even just 1 reporter, it then changes to people in the UK on the news repeating it and it shows the time in the corner and then it says like "4:02 pm" 4 minutes before the actual building collapsed, or whatever.DeeJayInphinity

I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saying that the news reporters were controlling the "demolition"? Or are you saying that their commentating was scripted? Or are you saying that they have physic abilities? Or maybe the audio and video were out of sync.

I don't know what I'm saying, but the guy is standing infront like in some studio and outside the window is the two towers smoking and he says "another building has collapsed (wtc 7 or something)" and you can actually see that building still standing behind him. I don't know maybe they are physcic or maybe they knew it was being blown up by explosives and where given scripts by the government or whatever...

I don't know what I'm saying, but the guy is standing infront like in some studio and outside the window is the two towers smoking and he says "another building has collapsed (wtc 7 or something)" and you can actually see that building still standing behind him. I don't know maybe they are physcic or maybe they knew it was being blown up by explosives and where given scripts by the government or whatever...

Brainkiller05

That makes no sense. WTC7 collapsed in the evening, the twin towers collapsed in the morning. I think you misinterpreted the report.

it was a government conspiracy!!:o

*puts on aluminum foil hat*

STAY AWAY FROM ME!!!! I WILL BURN YOU!!!

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]The plane's wings COULDN'T have made ANY DAMAGE to the pentagon, for the simple reason that a planes wings are attached using tape.DeeJayInphinity

They did do damage, they just didn't affect the size of the hole made by the cabin. The cabin itself is not very wide, most of the length comes from the wings, thus, the main hole would't have to be very big.

More likely that the fuel tanks and turbines which did that damage, and not the actual wings.

Someone mentioned the incident during the JFK administration. You are talking about Operation Northwoods I believe. It was a false flag action thought up memebers of the government but rejected by JFK. It involved hijacking a plane and blaming Cuba. Dont believe me google it or at least check it on wikipedia (sucks) if youre lazy.
rzepak

Yeah I remember that. Doesn't matter becasue we're talking about 2001, not 1962. The plan was rejected, anyway. Why would you use that to prove that the goverment is willing to kill its own civilians when it was rejected?

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[QUOTE="Total-KO"]The plane's wings COULDN'T have made ANY DAMAGE to the pentagon, for the simple reason that a planes wings are attached using tape.Total-KO

They did do damage, they just didn't affect the size of the hole made by the cabin. The cabin itself is not very wide, most of the length comes from the wings, thus, the main hole would't have to be very big.

More likely that the fuel tanks and turbines which did that damage, and not the actual wings.

Right, and there are smaller holes that were caused by the engines. That still doesn't change the fact that the main hole doesn't have to be 120ft wide. It should be wide enough to accomodate the cabin, with indentations to the side were the wings hit, and smaller holes for the engines. All of that was present in the Pentagon.

[QUOTE="Judza"]

Welcome to 6 years ago OP.

Here's the thing, if the whole thing was a conspiracy, then why are these clowns who pout that it was all a conspiracy still alive?

If it's a conspiracy, then a few more lives taken to ensure that the secret never gets out would seem like a logical action.

Foolz3h

No ones believing them so why bother kill them? :D

exactly. actually, killing them would reveal and prove that the american gov't did plan the attack. however, i dont really know if it was a hoax or not. :p im just saying that to stress a point hehe

why... would the american government do that? -_ojimmy-fly

The conspiracy nuts claim that they did it because it allowed them to interfere big time in the middle east without any relevant protests from the rest of the western world...