Wow... I can't believe that some people think that 9/11 is a conspiracy

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Ever heard about the Lusitania? WTC could be an inside job since it wouldn't be the first time the US does this kind of stuff. And what about building 7 that simply crumbeled for no reason? And it was exactly like a controlled demolition... And what about the enormous explosion in the basement of the two towers? What about the molten metal? What about the fictionnal plane that hit the Pentagon? What about the sawed-off pillars inside WTC? What about Rockefeller, in 2000, saying this would happen, in a secret conversation?

And just watch Zeitgeist part 2 and 3... there's enough in there to convince Bush himself (if you just look at the facts part).

Mumbles527

What kind of plane would completely vaporise on impact, but leave its passengers' bodies identifiable? The heat made tons of titanium disappear, but only burned human bodies? Something's not right. And why don't they release the videofo otage?

If it wasn't an inside job, then someone tell me how a jumbo jet could possible make just a 16 foot exit hole in the Pentagon, no bodies, and no signs of any wings....And how the grass was untouched, and why were were only given 3 frames of the video that was "cought" when there were multiple cameras pointing at the Pentagon.camreeno360

Small hole alright... Compare the size of the firemen and on the ground even the firetruck to the hole. Its enormous!

No bodies alright... **WARNING: Graphic**

No plane debris alright...Yep.None.Zilch.Nothing.Gone without a trace.

The grass was untouched because the plane never touched the grass.

There's more frames to the crash, the govs just havn't released them yet. Why? Who knows.

And let me guess. You believe a missile hit the Pentagon, right? If so, explain to be how a missile could zigzag and take out 5 lamp poles and a nice chunk of a generator and still be able to go and punch through 3 rings of the Pentagon.

Also, you may want to look at this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

If it wasn't an inside job, then someone tell me how a jumbo jet could possible make just a 16 foot exit hole in the Pentagon, no bodies, and no signs of any wings....And how the grass was untouched, and why were were only given 3 frames of the video that was "cought" when there were multiple cameras pointing at the Pentagon.camreeno360

[QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Ever heard about the Lusitania? WTC could be an inside job since it wouldn't be the first time the US does this kind of stuff. And what about building 7 that simply crumbeled for no reason? And it was exactly like a controlled demolition... And what about the enormous explosion in the basement of the two towers? What about the molten metal? What about the fictionnal plane that hit the Pentagon? What about the sawed-off pillars inside WTC? What about Rockefeller, in 2000, saying this would happen, in a secret conversation?

And just watch Zeitgeist part 2 and 3... there's enough in there to convince Bush himself (if you just look at the facts part).

Timesplitter14

What kind of plane would completely vaporise on impact, but leave its passengers' bodies identifiable? The heat made tons of titanium disappear, but only burned human bodies? Something's not right. And why don't they release the videofo otage?

They did release video footage. They took it away from some gas station and it took a few years for it to be released but edited for length.

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]If it wasn't an inside job, then someone tell me how a jumbo jet could possible make just a 16 foot exit hole in the Pentagon, no bodies, and no signs of any wings....And how the grass was untouched, and why were were only given 3 frames of the video that was "cought" when there were multiple cameras pointing at the Pentagon.serjitup

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]If it wasn't an inside job, then someone tell me how a jumbo jet could possible make just a 16 foot exit hole in the Pentagon, no bodies, and no signs of any wings....And how the grass was untouched, and why were were only given 3 frames of the video that was "cought" when there were multiple cameras pointing at the Pentagon.Ezgam3r

Small hole alright... Compare the size of the firemen and on the ground even the firetruck to the hole. Its enormous!

No bodies alright... **WARNING: Graphic**

No plane debris alright...Yep.None.Zilch.Nothing.Gone without a trace.

The grass was untouched because the plane never touched the grass.

There's more frames to the crash, the govs just havn't released them yet. Why? Who knows.

And let me guess. You believe a missile hit the Pentagon, right? If so, explain to be how a missile could zigzag and take out 5 lamp poles and a nice chunk of a generator and still be able to go and punch through 3 rings of the Pentagon.

Also, you may want to look at this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

Dang. I never head that zigzaging part. Holy cow.

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]If it wasn't an inside job, then someone tell me how a jumbo jet could possible make just a 16 foot exit hole in the Pentagon, no bodies, and no signs of any wings....And how the grass was untouched, and why were were only given 3 frames of the video that was "cought" when there were multiple cameras pointing at the Pentagon.DeeJayInphinity

The hole is actually quite larger then that. No bodies? How do you know, were you there? There are numerous accounts of people seeing bodies and body parts. The plane was also identified to be a Boeing 757, you're telling me that it flew with no wings? I also recall seeing damage on the lawn due to the plane. The video part is quite irrelevant since there were people who personally saw the plan smash into the pentagon.

Anyway, you're telling me that the U.S. goverment decided to take 4 aircraft and slam 2 of them into the WTC, then have 1 aircraft crash in a field, then ignore the other aircraft and chose to smash a missle into the pentagon instead of a plane? Really? Cause I thought that it would've been extremely easy for them to use a plane since, you know, they had already smashed two planes into two other buildings.

Why did they chose a missle for the pentagon? Does that make any sense to you? All of the sudden they felt that an airplane couldn't do the job, or that it wasn't plausible? :lol: You guys do come up with some crazy stuff.

Also, in many plane crash cases, the bodies are so destroyed from something from the crash, the biggest remain found may be only a human kneecap or femur.

Flight 93 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search=

Bombs in WTC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=

Pentagon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4&mode=related&search=

WTC 7 (WATCH AT 2:08!!!!) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

I need explanations.

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]If it wasn't an inside job, then someone tell me how a jumbo jet could possible make just a 16 foot exit hole in the Pentagon, no bodies, and no signs of any wings....And how the grass was untouched, and why were were only given 3 frames of the video that was "cought" when there were multiple cameras pointing at the Pentagon.Ezgam3r

Small hole alright... Compare the size of the firemen and on the ground even the firetruck to the hole. Its enormous!

No bodies alright... **WARNING: Graphic**

No plane debris alright...Yep.None.Zilch.Nothing.Gone without a trace.

The grass was untouched because the plane never touched the grass.

There's more frames to the crash, the govs just havn't released them yet. Why? Who knows.

And let me guess. You believe a missile hit the Pentagon, right? If so, explain to be how a missile could zigzag and take out 5 lamp poles and a nice chunk of a generator and still be able to go and punch through 3 rings of the Pentagon.

Also, you may want to look at this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

You're sourses suck. There's nothing else I can say. You can't justify if those body pictures actually came from the plane or just employees working there. That was ridiculous. And you also see the "chunk of the plane" laying in the grass in clear sight. How can you prove that actually flew over there after the plane crashed. It was obviously put there on purpose, and there weren't any other pieces like that aside from that other chunk with the "A" for American on it. Now duplicated that single piece thousands of times on the internet was hilarious too how it was used like it "completely proved" the whole thing.

And lastly you left out a bunch of question about that video you put there. The poles were unscratched, and you didn't bother to get into how they were just unscrewed at the base instead of actually wacked off. The video didn't discuss that. And how the outline of the plane in the servalience footage was "actually the plane coming". It was just a blurry thing that could resemble the plane, *laugh*. Someone there were only a few seconds of fire is what you guys can't explain either. And I saw that ring shaped thing was repeated also, just being one piece isn't enough evidence to suggest a 757 hit it.

And I have to say I never said or implied anywhere that a missile hit it instead of an airplane.

Let's not even get into the Pennsylvania "crash". That has absolutely the least evidence at all. Someone the one photo with the poof of smoke going up being the crash fumes was the biggest load of bull I've heard in my life.

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]If it wasn't an inside job, then someone tell me how a jumbo jet could possible make just a 16 foot exit hole in the Pentagon, no bodies, and no signs of any wings....And how the grass was untouched, and why were were only given 3 frames of the video that was "cought" when there were multiple cameras pointing at the Pentagon.Ezgam3r

Small hole alright... Compare the size of the firemen and on the ground even the firetruck to the hole. Its enormous!

No bodies alright... **WARNING: Graphic**

No plane debris alright...Yep.None.Zilch.Nothing.Gone without a trace.

The grass was untouched because the plane never touched the grass.

There's more frames to the crash, the govs just havn't released them yet. Why? Who knows.

And let me guess. You believe a missile hit the Pentagon, right? If so, explain to be how a missile could zigzag and take out 5 lamp poles and a nice chunk of a generator and still be able to go and punch through 3 rings of the Pentagon.

Also, you may want to look at this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

Your sources suck. There's nothing else I can say. You can't justify if those body pictures actually came from the plane or just employees working there. That was ridiculous. And you also see the "chunk of the plane" laying in the grass in clear sight. How can you prove that actually flew over there after the plane crashed. It was obviously put there on purpose, and there weren't any other pieces like that aside from that other chunk with the "A" for American on it. Now duplicated that single piece thousands of times on the internet was hilarious too how it was used like it "completely proved" the whole thing.

And lastly you left out a bunch of question about that video you put there. The poles were unscratched, and you didn't bother to get into how they were just unscrewed at the base instead of actually whacked off. The video didn't discuss that. And how the outline of the plane in the surveillance footage was "actually the plane coming". It was just a blurry thing that could resemble the plane, *laugh*. Someone there were only a few seconds of fire is what you guys can't explain either. And I saw that ring shaped thing was repeated also, just being one piece isn't enough evidence to suggest a 757 hit it.

And I have to say I never said or implied anywhere that a missile hit it instead of an airplane.

Let's not even get into the Pennsylvania "crash". That has absolutely the least evidence at all. Someone the one photo with the poof of smoke going up being the crash fumes was the biggest load of bull I've heard in my life.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]I think its ****ing sickining when ppl say it isLouieV13

Sickning? Is it sickening to say that some people are racist? No, because it's true. And WTC conspiracy COULD be true.

Real people die in Irak and yet people support it. But of course these people don't care since most of the people killed aren't american. Now please open your eyes.

I kind of laughed how much time and effort it probably took you to put together all those links and find all that stuff. Wow.....camreeno360

You're sourses suck. There's nothing else I can say. camreeno360

You can't justify if those body pictures actually came from the plane or just employees working there. That was ridiculous. camreeno360

1. I disproved your claim in your first post

2. Prove to me that those bodies aren't those from the plane and are actually from people working in the Pentagon.

And you also see the "chunk of the plane" laying in the grass in clear sight. How can you prove that actually flew over there after the plane crashed. It was obviously put there on purpose, and there weren't any other pieces like that aside from that other chunk with the "A" for American on it.camreeno360

2. It wasn't the only piece of its kind on the lawn. There were many. Infact, one of the links I showed you has many in it. Love how you either didn't look at it or conveniently forgot about it...

Now duplicated that single piece thousands of times on the internet was hilarious too how it was used like it "completely proved" the whole thing.camreeno360

And lastly you left out a bunch of question about that video you put there. The poles were unscratched, camreeno360

I didn't know that light poles were always bent like that :roll:

and you didn't bother to get into how they were just unscrewed at the base instead of actually wacked off. The video didn't discuss that.camreeno360

And how the outline of the plane in the servalience footage was "actually the plane coming". It was just a blurry thing that could resemble the plane, *laugh*. camreeno360

Someone there were only a few seconds of fire is what you guys can't explain either.camreeno360

And I saw that ring shaped thing was repeated also, just being one piece isn't enough evidence to suggest a 757 hit it.camreeno360

And I have to say I never said or implied anywhere that a missile hit it instead of an airplane.camreeno360

Let's not even get into the Pennsylvania "crash". That has absolutely the least evidence at all. Someone the one photo with the poof of smoke going up being the crash fumes was the biggest load of bull I've heard in my life.

camreeno360

i think this sums things up

lol man just lol

Flight 93 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search=

Bombs in WTC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=

Pentagon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4&mode=related&search=

WTC 7 (WATCH AT 2:08!!!!) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

I need explanations.

Timesplitter14

Sorry it took a while I've been watching your BS

flight 93 I don't even get how this helps your theory there is nothing there to support you

Bombs in WTC : wrong secondary explosions like as in any long slow demolition parts fall and cause internal pressure to build up and release. Also there were gas generators throughout the building and fire makes gas explode I though you should know that that way you'll at least know something

Pentagon: Most of a plane is very lighweight and weak, and this wasn't like a normal plane crash normally planes crash while attempting to land this plane was going much faster than a plane attempting to land.

WTC : news agencys are unreliable during a disaster information gets mixed up on fire becomes is collapsing becomes collapsed you can't use the medias incompotence to prove your points.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Flight 93 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search=

Bombs in WTC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=

Pentagon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4&mode=related&search=

WTC 7 (WATCH AT 2:08!!!!) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

I need explanations.

LS07

Sorry it took a while I've been watching your BS

flight 93 I don't even get how this helps your theory there is nothing there to support you

Bombs in WTC : wrong secondary explosions like as in any long slow demolition parts fall and cause internal pressure to build up and release. Also there were gas generators throughout the building and fire makes gas explode I though you should know that that way you'll at least know something

Pentagon: Most of a plane is very lighweight and weak, and this wasn't like a normal plane crash normally planes crash while attempting to land this plane was going much faster than a plane attempting to land.

WTC : news agencys are unreliable during a disaster information gets mixed up on fire becomes is collapsing becomes collapsed you can't use the medias incompotence to prove your points.

Flight 93 : Well it just show that it was fake. Why the hell would they want to do a fake crash if it wasn't an inside job?

Bombs : I wanted you to look at the part where the fireman says : ''There's a bomb in there. Evacuate the building''. :roll: Do you think Michael Moore paid him to say that or what?

Pentagon : Just look at the size of the hole in the building before it collapsed. It simply CAN'T be a large plane.

WTC 7 : Okay, you can say that just like I could say that media is being controlled by the government. But just look at the comparison with a controlled demolition... it's the EXACT SAME THING.

[QUOTE="LS07"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Flight 93 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search=

Bombs in WTC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=

Pentagon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4&mode=related&search=

WTC 7 (WATCH AT 2:08!!!!) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

I need explanations.

Timesplitter14

Sorry it took a while I've been watching your BS

flight 93 I don't even get how this helps your theory there is nothing there to support you

Bombs in WTC : wrong secondary explosions like as in any long slow demolition parts fall and cause internal pressure to build up and release. Also there were gas generators throughout the building and fire makes gas explode I though you should know that that way you'll at least know something

Pentagon: Most of a plane is very lighweight and weak, and this wasn't like a normal plane crash normally planes crash while attempting to land this plane was going much faster than a plane attempting to land.

WTC : news agencys are unreliable during a disaster information gets mixed up on fire becomes is collapsing becomes collapsed you can't use the medias incompotence to prove your points.

Flight 93 : Well it just show that it was fake. Why the hell would they want to do a fake crash if it wasn't an inside job?

Bombs : I wanted you to look at the part where the fireman says : ''There's a bomb in there. Evacuate the building''. :roll: Do you think Michael Moore paid him to say that or what?

Pentagon : Just look at the size of the hole in the building before it collapsed. It simply CAN'T be a large plane.

WTC 7 : Okay, you can say that just like I could say that media is being controlled by the government. But just look at the comparison with a controlled demolition... it's the EXACT SAME THING.

this is the controlled demolition of the landmark tower

no explosions, no squibbs. exact same thing you say?

All these people fail in the most fundamental part of their stories.. there would be no logical reason for the US to attack its own people, damage its economy, and end up in a worse political position in 6 years time. Nothing good came of 9/11, and that's enough proof for me.cjek

It was a way to enter the war. Just like the Lusitania for WW1. And war = massive economy boost.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="LS07"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Flight 93 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search=

Bombs in WTC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=

Pentagon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4&mode=related&search=

WTC 7 (WATCH AT 2:08!!!!) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

I need explanations.

mig_killer2

Sorry it took a while I've been watching your BS

flight 93 I don't even get how this helps your theory there is nothing there to support you

Bombs in WTC : wrong secondary explosions like as in any long slow demolition parts fall and cause internal pressure to build up and release. Also there were gas generators throughout the building and fire makes gas explode I though you should know that that way you'll at least know something

Pentagon: Most of a plane is very lighweight and weak, and this wasn't like a normal plane crash normally planes crash while attempting to land this plane was going much faster than a plane attempting to land.

WTC : news agencys are unreliable during a disaster information gets mixed up on fire becomes is collapsing becomes collapsed you can't use the medias incompotence to prove your points.

Flight 93 : Well it just show that it was fake. Why the hell would they want to do a fake crash if it wasn't an inside job?

Bombs : I wanted you to look at the part where the fireman says : ''There's a bomb in there. Evacuate the building''. :roll: Do you think Michael Moore paid him to say that or what?

Pentagon : Just look at the size of the hole in the building before it collapsed. It simply CAN'T be a large plane.

WTC 7 : Okay, you can say that just like I could say that media is being controlled by the government. But just look at the comparison with a controlled demolition... it's the EXACT SAME THING.

this is the controlled demolition of the landmark tower

no explosions, no squibbs. exact same thing you say?

We only see WTC7 while it's collapsing. In the controlled demolition vid you posted, the explosions occur BEFORE the building collapses.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="LS07"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Flight 93 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search=

Bombs in WTC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=

Pentagon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4&mode=related&search=

WTC 7 (WATCH AT 2:08!!!!) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

I need explanations.

Timesplitter14

Sorry it took a while I've been watching your BS

flight 93 I don't even get how this helps your theory there is nothing there to support you

Bombs in WTC : wrong secondary explosions like as in any long slow demolition parts fall and cause internal pressure to build up and release. Also there were gas generators throughout the building and fire makes gas explode I though you should know that that way you'll at least know something

Pentagon: Most of a plane is very lighweight and weak, and this wasn't like a normal plane crash normally planes crash while attempting to land this plane was going much faster than a plane attempting to land.

WTC : news agencys are unreliable during a disaster information gets mixed up on fire becomes is collapsing becomes collapsed you can't use the medias incompotence to prove your points.

Flight 93 : Well it just show that it was fake. Why the hell would they want to do a fake crash if it wasn't an inside job?

Bombs : I wanted you to look at the part where the fireman says : ''There's a bomb in there. Evacuate the building''. :roll: Do you think Michael Moore paid him to say that or what?

Pentagon : Just look at the size of the hole in the building before it collapsed. It simply CAN'T be a large plane.

WTC 7 : Okay, you can say that just like I could say that media is being controlled by the government. But just look at the comparison with a controlled demolition... it's the EXACT SAME THING.

this is the controlled demolition of the landmark tower

no explosions, no squibbs. exact same thing you say?

We only see WTC7 while it's collapsing. In the controlled demolition vid you posted, the explosions occur BEFORE the building collapses.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3214024953129565561&q=screw+loose+change&total=67&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5

watch this video and come back and tell us 9/11 was a conspiracy

All these people fail in the most fundamental part of their stories.. there would be no logical reason for the US to attack its own people, damage its economy, and end up in a worse political position in 6 years time. Nothing good came of 9/11, and that's enough proof for me.cjek

They already killed 3000+, they should have no problem killing a few random internet users that are foiling their "plans".

Also, they could have just taken off the vids and sites from the net hours or even minutes from when they were put up if they're so filled with "the truth".

[QUOTE="cjek"]All these people fail in the most fundamental part of their stories.. there would be no logical reason for the US to attack its own people, damage its economy, and end up in a worse political position in 6 years time. Nothing good came of 9/11, and that's enough proof for me.Ezgam3r

They already killed 3000+, they should have no problem killing a few random internet users that are foiling their "plans".

Also, they could have just taken off the vids and sites from the net hours or even minutes from when they were put up if they're so filled with "the truth".

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"]

[QUOTE="cjek"]All these people fail in the most fundamental part of their stories.. there would be no logical reason for the US to attack its own people, damage its economy, and end up in a worse political position in 6 years time. Nothing good came of 9/11, and that's enough proof for me.mig_killer2

They already killed 3000+, they should have no problem killing a few random internet users that are foiling their "plans".

Also, they could have just taken off the vids and sites from the net hours or even minutes from when they were put up if they're so filled with "the truth".

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="LS07"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Flight 93 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search=

Bombs in WTC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=

Pentagon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4&mode=related&search=

WTC 7 (WATCH AT 2:08!!!!) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

I need explanations.

mig_killer2

Sorry it took a while I've been watching your BS

flight 93 I don't even get how this helps your theory there is nothing there to support you

Bombs in WTC : wrong secondary explosions like as in any long slow demolition parts fall and cause internal pressure to build up and release. Also there were gas generators throughout the building and fire makes gas explode I though you should know that that way you'll at least know something

Pentagon: Most of a plane is very lighweight and weak, and this wasn't like a normal plane crash normally planes crash while attempting to land this plane was going much faster than a plane attempting to land.

WTC : news agencys are unreliable during a disaster information gets mixed up on fire becomes is collapsing becomes collapsed you can't use the medias incompotence to prove your points.

Flight 93 : Well it just show that it was fake. Why the hell would they want to do a fake crash if it wasn't an inside job?

Bombs : I wanted you to look at the part where the fireman says : ''There's a bomb in there. Evacuate the building''. :roll: Do you think Michael Moore paid him to say that or what?

Pentagon : Just look at the size of the hole in the building before it collapsed. It simply CAN'T be a large plane.

WTC 7 : Okay, you can say that just like I could say that media is being controlled by the government. But just look at the comparison with a controlled demolition... it's the EXACT SAME THING.

this is the controlled demolition of the landmark tower

no explosions, no squibbs. exact same thing you say?

We only see WTC7 while it's collapsing. In the controlled demolition vid you posted, the explosions occur BEFORE the building collapses.

Well we'd need a vid of that, but anyways, did you ever see a building collapse perfectly (andat free fall) because there were two minor fires somewhere in the middle of the building?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="LS07"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Flight 93 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search=

Bombs in WTC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=

Pentagon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4&mode=related&search=

WTC 7 (WATCH AT 2:08!!!!) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

I need explanations.

Timesplitter14

Sorry it took a while I've been watching your BS

flight 93 I don't even get how this helps your theory there is nothing there to support you

Bombs in WTC : wrong secondary explosions like as in any long slow demolition parts fall and cause internal pressure to build up and release. Also there were gas generators throughout the building and fire makes gas explode I though you should know that that way you'll at least know something

Pentagon: Most of a plane is very lighweight and weak, and this wasn't like a normal plane crash normally planes crash while attempting to land this plane was going much faster than a plane attempting to land.

WTC : news agencys are unreliable during a disaster information gets mixed up on fire becomes is collapsing becomes collapsed you can't use the medias incompotence to prove your points.

Flight 93 : Well it just show that it was fake. Why the hell would they want to do a fake crash if it wasn't an inside job?

Bombs : I wanted you to look at the part where the fireman says : ''There's a bomb in there. Evacuate the building''. :roll: Do you think Michael Moore paid him to say that or what?

Pentagon : Just look at the size of the hole in the building before it collapsed. It simply CAN'T be a large plane.

WTC 7 : Okay, you can say that just like I could say that media is being controlled by the government. But just look at the comparison with a controlled demolition... it's the EXACT SAME THING.

this is the controlled demolition of the landmark tower

no explosions, no squibbs. exact same thing you say?

We only see WTC7 while it's collapsing. In the controlled demolition vid you posted, the explosions occur BEFORE the building collapses.

Well we'd need a vid of that, but anyways, did you ever see a building collapse perfectly (andat free fall) because there were two minor fires somewhere in the middle of the building?

For 9/11 to be a conspiracy the goverment would need to be controlling all major media, (some random guy on a website does not count), stop everyone who was there from telling what happened, manipulate videos, convince military personel to attack there own country, and convince all of the experts to agree with them. That would be tens of thousands of people involved, do you expect me to believe none of these people would say no or go public with this the entire idea is rediculous.LS07

Well apparently they didn't stop everyone because we have a video proof that firemenconfirmed that there wasbomb in the building. And Zeitgeist, for example, is FULL of witnesses who say that there was an explosion BEFORE the planes hit the towers. And most experts agree that WTC7 collapsing like that was completely impossible. It's notbecause the government controls everything, it's because people don't want to listen.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="LS07"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Flight 93 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search=

Bombs in WTC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=

Pentagon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4&mode=related&search=

WTC 7 (WATCH AT 2:08!!!!) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

I need explanations.

mig_killer2

Sorry it took a while I've been watching your BS

flight 93 I don't even get how this helps your theory there is nothing there to support you

Bombs in WTC : wrong secondary explosions like as in any long slow demolition parts fall and cause internal pressure to build up and release. Also there were gas generators throughout the building and fire makes gas explode I though you should know that that way you'll at least know something

Pentagon: Most of a plane is very lighweight and weak, and this wasn't like a normal plane crash normally planes crash while attempting to land this plane was going much faster than a plane attempting to land.

WTC : news agencys are unreliable during a disaster information gets mixed up on fire becomes is collapsing becomes collapsed you can't use the medias incompotence to prove your points.

Flight 93 : Well it just show that it was fake. Why the hell would they want to do a fake crash if it wasn't an inside job?

Bombs : I wanted you to look at the part where the fireman says : ''There's a bomb in there. Evacuate the building''. :roll: Do you think Michael Moore paid him to say that or what?

Pentagon : Just look at the size of the hole in the building before it collapsed. It simply CAN'T be a large plane.

WTC 7 : Okay, you can say that just like I could say that media is being controlled by the government. But just look at the comparison with a controlled demolition... it's the EXACT SAME THING.

this is the controlled demolition of the landmark tower

no explosions, no squibbs. exact same thing you say?

We only see WTC7 while it's collapsing. In the controlled demolition vid you posted, the explosions occur BEFORE the building collapses.

Well we'd need a vid of that, but anyways, did you ever see a building collapse perfectly (andat free fall) because there were two minor fires somewhere in the middle of the building?

I'm talking about WTC 7

[QUOTE="LS07"]For 9/11 to be a conspiracy the goverment would need to be controlling all major media, (some random guy on a website does not count), stop everyone who was there from telling what happened, manipulate videos, convince military personel to attack there own country, and convince all of the experts to agree with them. That would be tens of thousands of people involved, do you expect me to believe none of these people would say no or go public with this the entire idea is rediculous.Timesplitter14

Well apparently they didn't stop everyone because we have a video proof that firemenconfirmed that there wasbomb in the building. And Zeitgeist, for example, is FULL of witnesses who say that there was an explosion BEFORE the planes hit the towers. And most experts agree that WTC7 collapsing like that was completely impossible. It's notbecause the government controls everything, it's because people don't want to listen.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="LS07"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Flight 93 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search=

Bombs in WTC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=

Pentagon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4&mode=related&search=

WTC 7 (WATCH AT 2:08!!!!) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

I need explanations.

Timesplitter14

Sorry it took a while I've been watching your BS

flight 93 I don't even get how this helps your theory there is nothing there to support you

Bombs in WTC : wrong secondary explosions like as in any long slow demolition parts fall and cause internal pressure to build up and release. Also there were gas generators throughout the building and fire makes gas explode I though you should know that that way you'll at least know something

Pentagon: Most of a plane is very lighweight and weak, and this wasn't like a normal plane crash normally planes crash while attempting to land this plane was going much faster than a plane attempting to land.

WTC : news agencys are unreliable during a disaster information gets mixed up on fire becomes is collapsing becomes collapsed you can't use the medias incompotence to prove your points.

Flight 93 : Well it just show that it was fake. Why the hell would they want to do a fake crash if it wasn't an inside job?

Bombs : I wanted you to look at the part where the fireman says : ''There's a bomb in there. Evacuate the building''. :roll: Do you think Michael Moore paid him to say that or what?

Pentagon : Just look at the size of the hole in the building before it collapsed. It simply CAN'T be a large plane.

WTC 7 : Okay, you can say that just like I could say that media is being controlled by the government. But just look at the comparison with a controlled demolition... it's the EXACT SAME THING.

this is the controlled demolition of the landmark tower

no explosions, no squibbs. exact same thing you say?

We only see WTC7 while it's collapsing. In the controlled demolition vid you posted, the explosions occur BEFORE the building collapses.

Well we'd need a vid of that, but anyways, did you ever see a building collapse perfectly (andat free fall) because there were two minor fires somewhere in the middle of the building?

I'm talking about WTC 7

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

[QUOTE="LS07"]For 9/11 to be a conspiracy the goverment would need to be controlling all major media, (some random guy on a website does not count), stop everyone who was there from telling what happened, manipulate videos, convince military personel to attack there own country, and convince all of the experts to agree with them. That would be tens of thousands of people involved, do you expect me to believe none of these people would say no or go public with this the entire idea is rediculous.mig_killer2

Well apparently they didn't stop everyone because we have a video proof that firemenconfirmed that there wasbomb in the building. And Zeitgeist, for example, is FULL of witnesses who say that there was an explosion BEFORE the planes hit the towers. And most experts agree that WTC7 collapsing like that was completely impossible. It's notbecause the government controls everything, it's because people don't want to listen.

Um yes. Every single demolition experts who were interviewed about WTC 7 agreed that this couldn't have been done by anything else than a controlled demolition. Same goes for the Twin Towers collapsing perfectly on themselves, at free fall.

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic"

When i first saw that quote I was skeptical...but now I see that it is very true and looking back I see that it has always been true

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

[QUOTE="LS07"]For 9/11 to be a conspiracy the goverment would need to be controlling all major media, (some random guy on a website does not count), stop everyone who was there from telling what happened, manipulate videos, convince military personel to attack there own country, and convince all of the experts to agree with them. That would be tens of thousands of people involved, do you expect me to believe none of these people would say no or go public with this the entire idea is rediculous.Timesplitter14

Well apparently they didn't stop everyone because we have a video proof that firemenconfirmed that there wasbomb in the building. And Zeitgeist, for example, is FULL of witnesses who say that there was an explosion BEFORE the planes hit the towers. And most experts agree that WTC7 collapsing like that was completely impossible. It's notbecause the government controls everything, it's because people don't want to listen.

Um yes. Every single demolition experts who were interviewed about WTC 7 agreed that this couldn't have been done by anything else than a controlled demolition. Same goes for the Twin Towers collapsing perfectly on themselves, at free fall.

What world are you living in try reading the article in popular mecanics and try watching the history channel special on 9/11 they are both full of tons of experts who say that it was an airplane that brought down the towers, I haven't seen a reputable expert who says otherwise except for maybe one or two guys, which does not compare to the dozens that agree with the official account 9/11 being a conspiracy is about as likely as the earth being flat maybe you should go try to convince the people who still believe that.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

[QUOTE="LS07"]For 9/11 to be a conspiracy the goverment would need to be controlling all major media, (some random guy on a website does not count), stop everyone who was there from telling what happened, manipulate videos, convince military personel to attack there own country, and convince all of the experts to agree with them. That would be tens of thousands of people involved, do you expect me to believe none of these people would say no or go public with this the entire idea is rediculous.LS07

Well apparently they didn't stop everyone because we have a video proof that firemenconfirmed that there wasbomb in the building. And Zeitgeist, for example, is FULL of witnesses who say that there was an explosion BEFORE the planes hit the towers. And most experts agree that WTC7 collapsing like that was completely impossible. It's notbecause the government controls everything, it's because people don't want to listen.

Um yes. Every single demolition experts who were interviewed about WTC 7 agreed that this couldn't have been done by anything else than a controlled demolition. Same goes for the Twin Towers collapsing perfectly on themselves, at free fall.

What world are you living in try reading the article in popular mecanics and try watching the history channel special on 9/11 they are both full of tons of experts who say that it was an airplane that brought down the towers, I haven't seen a reputable expert who says otherwise except for maybe one or two guys, which does not compare to the dozens that agree with the official account 9/11 being a conspiracy is about as likely as the earth being flat maybe you should go try to convince the people who still believe that.

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic"

When i first saw that quote I was skeptical...but now I see that it is very true and looking back I see that it has always been true

-D3MO-

and what side are you on?

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic"

When i first saw that quote I was skeptical...but now I see that it is very true and looking back I see that it has always been true

Timesplitter14

and what side are you on?

Does it even matter?

if you really must know...neither...I don't believe the government but I'm not a tinfoil hat person that thinks everything is a conspiracy

I'm very open to all views and respect them.

all right timespletter turn on history channel right now and we'll pick this up in two hours after you get a chance to learn a thing or twoLS07

Ok... I don't know what you're seeing, but my History channel is showing ''Band of Brothers''. Anyways, I've already said what I had to say and no one was able to show me I was wrong, just like I was unable to tell you you were wrong, so we can just wait until some proof is discovered or until we all die.

[QUOTE="LS07"]all right timespletter turn on history channel right now and we'll pick this up in two hours after you get a chance to learn a thing or twoTimesplitter14

Ok... I don't know what you're seeing, but my History channel is showing ''Band of Brothers''. Anyways, I've already said what I had to say and no one was able to show me I was wrong, just like I was unable to tell you you were wrong, so we can just wait until some proof is discovered or until we all die.

Oh dear god,

Why can't I stay away from this stuff. Some guy at work talks about how various things are a conspiracy. How the 9/11 attacks were done by our own government. The formation of the NAU will mean the end of the middle class. Hell he even says that the Civil War was part of a conspiracy. This guy seriously needs to stop listening to Liberty Radio.

I did watch this movie online called Zietgiest (www.zeitgeistmovie.com) and I think it brings up some interesting points in both parts (although part two is more on this subject, part one just seems like it is meant to piss Christians off.)

Oh dear god,

Why can't I stay away from this stuff. Some guy at work talks about how various things are a conspiracy. How the 9/11 attacks were done by our own government. The formation of the NAU will mean the end of the middle class. Hell he even says that the Civil War was part of a conspiracy. This guy seriously needs to stop listening to Liberty Radio.

I did watch this movie online called Zietgiest (www.zeitgeistmovie.com) and I think it brings up some interesting points in both parts (although part two is more on this subject, part one just seems like it is meant to piss Christians off.)

SunofVich

I think the reason people buy into these types of conspiracy theories is because they can't, or won't, believe that there is evil in this world and evil people willing to carry out mass murder on a grand scale. They try and seek out logical explanations, no matter how illogical they are, in an effort to escape the reality of the world we live in. That they can actually believe that our own government would carry out these acts as a prelude to going to war is about as sad and pathetic a thing as I've ever seen. What do they think, that Bin Laden and Al Qaeda don't exist? That he's just a make-believe boogeyman thought up by the government? What about all the people getting blown up in Iraq, do they also think that this is the work of the U.S. and not suicide bombers? 9/11 was not a hoax. It was a real event carried out by hateful, evil animals who are so brainwshed into thinking we are some kind of threat to their way of life they feel they need to wipe us out. That's all there is to it.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

[QUOTE="LS07"]all right timespletter turn on history channel right now and we'll pick this up in two hours after you get a chance to learn a thing or twomig_killer2

Ok... I don't know what you're seeing, but my History channel is showing ''Band of Brothers''. Anyways, I've already said what I had to say and no one was able to show me I was wrong, just like I was unable to tell you you were wrong, so we can just wait until some proof is discovered or until we all die.

none. And you don't have a proof it wasn't either, so that's the problem. If there was a proof, we wouldn't be debating.