Wow. Woman fined 1.9 million dollars for downloading 24 songs.

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#1 Xplosivx210
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/18/minnesota.music.download.fine/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Kinda makes you not want to ever download anything again huh?

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#2 SolidSnake35
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What kind of stupidity is that? If they were consistent with this punishment almost everyone would be poor.
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#3 Omni-Slash
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meh not enough info..waht was wshe doing with the songs.....while the fine was crazy....there seems to have to be more than jsut the fact that she downloaded 24 songs....
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#4 WasntAvailable
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What kind of stupidity is that? If they were consistent with this punishment almost everyone would be poor.SolidSnake35

Or no one would be illegally downloading songs on the internet. 1.9 million is overkill though. These crappy, "Let's just fine one person a ridiculous sum of money, and that should account for millions of others", schemes don't work very well.

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#5 Schnauzerz
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Unbelievable. I do not have any illegal songs or games on my computer but I do think that is beyond stupid. I used to but deleted it b/c I hate limewire. How did she get caught?
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#6 proskater40000
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haha if i get fined this, im out like 2 billion or so...

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What kind of stupidity is that? If they were consistent with this punishment almost everyone would be poor.SolidSnake35
Gotta love the American justice system. Murderers and rapists get off on technicalities, but you can get fined $80,000 per song downloaded. Way to go.
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#8 LJS9502_basic
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:lol: Sorry but that made me laugh....

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That's scary. A large part of my library....
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#10 Freebird8877
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What were the songs?
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#11 DazedDarkness
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She had to be doing something stupid, like trying to sell the music. I would be in jail and fined a billion if so. But that's just stupid, not many people get caught, if they did, and entire generation of teens would be incarcerated or in mad debpt before they're 20 years old. The labels like to find one person to throw some stupid fine on to try and make an "Example" out of them, not knowing that they aren't doing anything. They need to face it, record labels are over grampa. Get hip.

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#12 spoofnutz
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Martyrdom is where it's at. Any one of us could be the next arbitrary target. I would happily do time than pay a dime.

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#13 WeedleLad
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1.9 million is just way too much for 24 songs. She'll never be able to pay for that.

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#14 awssk8er716
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Haha. That sucks.

I'm still willing to take my chances.

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What were the songs?Freebird8877
Probably some mainstream crap of the 2000's.
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#16 Freebird8877
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/18/minnesota.music.download.fine/index.html?iref=mpstoryview Also, Linked for the lazy
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]What kind of stupidity is that? If they were consistent with this punishment almost everyone would be poor.cell_dweller
Gotta love the American justice system. Murderers and rapists get off on technicalities, but you can get fined $80,000 per song downloaded. Way to go.

Makes perfect sense. Yay, America! :?

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#18 muffincakes87
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So in this fashion.

My library holds enough money to solve are economic problems.

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#19 GabuEx
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Downloading 24 songs? This article says the fine was for making the songs available for download, not for downloading them. Which makes sense; if they just went after every single person who downloaded music, they would pretty much have to arrest everyone in America. :P

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#20 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="Freebird8877"]What were the songs?DazedDarkness
Probably some mainstream crap of the 2000's.

The article lists the artists, at least. I think that she should have at least gotten the chair for having Linkin Park on her computer. :x

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#21 BladeOfHeaven
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There has to be more than what was said in that article. She has to have been trying to sell, or distribute the downloaded music without the rights. I mean come on, 80,000$ for a song?
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#22 musicaz70
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Yeah I remember a few years back this moron was using a torrent service on campus grounds at my local university and his fines were over $250,000.

Got to love that people who use hard drugs, and steal physical objects worth much, much more, usually get off with lighter fines.

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#23 GabuEx
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There has to be more than what was said in that article. She has to have been trying to sell, or distribute the downloaded music without the rights. I mean come on, 80,000$ for a song? BladeOfHeaven

She was. See my post. As far as I can tell, the charges were the illegal distribution of the songs through Kazaa, not just their download.

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#24 samuraiguns
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What were the songs?Freebird8877
all the the songs were gold plated radio frequencies.
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#25 Devvy01
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yeah, well dont do it then
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#26 tzar3
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I hope nimatoad gets fined...

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#27 Darth-Caedus
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Thats beyond ridiculous...
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#28 MAILER_DAEMON
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$80,000 for each song? Wow... talk about overkill. Rather than make an example, why not spread it out or something?
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[QUOTE="BladeOfHeaven"]There has to be more than what was said in that article. She has to have been trying to sell, or distribute the downloaded music without the rights. I mean come on, 80,000$ for a song? GabuEx

She was. See my post. As far as I can tell, the charges were the illegal distribution of the songs through Kazaa, not just their download.

Just saw your post after I posted. :P
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[QUOTE="Freebird8877"]http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/18/minnesota.music.download.fine/index.html?iref=mpstoryview Also, Linked for the lazy

OMG, Thank you so much! This means alot to me :) Now i can participate :). This is blasphemy!
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#31 cyberdarkkid
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So in this fashion.

My library holds enough money to solve are economic problems.

muffincakes87

I would have to pay $263,840,000 :shock:

I'm going to start buying more often

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#32 FlyingArmbar
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Wow, that's rediculous. Fine her something that would take multiple lifetimes to pay off.

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#33 spoofnutz
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[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"][QUOTE="Freebird8877"]What were the songs?GabuEx

Probably some mainstream crap of the 2000's.

The article lists the artists, at least. I think that she should have at least gotten the chair for having Linkin Park on her computer. :x

That's very offensive to the ears, but not much else, so lets be reasonable...

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#34 cyberdarkkid
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I hope nimatoad gets fined...

tzar3
lol that's what came to mind when I read the article :lol:
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What were the songs?Freebird8877
Thats what she gets for downloading Jonas Brothers :P 1.9 million is too forgiving. Hell with it, just Round it to 2 million
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#36 Juggernaut140
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I would be paying billions of dollars if I was fined :|
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[QUOTE="BladeOfHeaven"]There has to be more than what was said in that article. She has to have been trying to sell, or distribute the downloaded music without the rights. I mean come on, 80,000$ for a song? GabuEx

She was. See my post. As far as I can tell, the charges were the illegal distribution of the songs through Kazaa, not just their download.

She got what she deserved though she should have gone with the first trial.

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#38 GabuEx
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That's very offensive to the ears, but not much else, so lets be reasonable...

spoofnutz

Okay, fine, I'll be reasonable.

700 years of hard labor.

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#39 cyberdarkkid
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Downloading 24 songs? This article says the fine was for making the songs available for download, not for downloading them. Which makes sense; if they just went after every single person who downloaded music, they would pretty much have to arrest everyone in America. :P

GabuEx
That makes more sense.
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#40 bigblunt537
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Actually one of my friends was once warned by his ISP to stop downloading music or they will be forced fine him.(IDK why the ISP sent him the email) They sent him a letter in the mail and one to his mothers job and an email. I'd rather be warned then pay 1.9 million, but most cases of people being caught for this is because they continue to share the songs aftert they download them. I delete them from my share list as soon as I'm done. I don't really download music really, but when I do that's how I take care of it.

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[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]

So in this fashion.

My library holds enough money to solve are economic problems.

cyberdarkkid

I would have to pay $263,840,000 :shock:

I'm going to start buying more often

I'd be paying $0 :D If I got caught before I deleted all my old downloads however.....I refuse to guess >_>
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#42 musicaz70
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[QUOTE="BladeOfHeaven"]There has to be more than what was said in that article. She has to have been trying to sell, or distribute the downloaded music without the rights. I mean come on, 80,000$ for a song? GabuEx

She was. See my post. As far as I can tell, the charges were the illegal distribution of the songs through Kazaa, not just their download.

Was she actually like, hosting files, or just seeding them?

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[QUOTE="best-gam3r"][QUOTE="Freebird8877"]http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/18/minnesota.music.download.fine/index.html?iref=mpstoryview Also, Linked for the lazy

OMG, Thank you so much! This means alot to me :) Now i can participate :). This is blasphemy!

:lol: No prob. Enjoy your participation's.
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#44 DazedDarkness
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Yeah same thing I did, any fool knows that ypu shut down sharing, and then you erase the share folder. You don't even have to worry about erasing your share folder everytime, just get rid of the share folder and cut off sharing, and you should be cool.

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#45 Statutory_AP3
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I have 945 songs, what would my fine be?
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#46 Im_single
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Leave it to corporate America to **** all over the little people, what would say Universal do with 1.9 million dollars? Buy a new diamond encrusted chair for their CEO? Solid gold toilet? I can't imagine a large music company actually wanting 1.9 million and instead is either just sueing for the lulz or becuase they are seriously pricks, one and the same I guess...Oh well, hope she has fun in jail.

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#47 LJS9502_basic
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Leave it to corporate America

Im_single

You know stealing is just that. She took music that wasn't hers and passed it on.

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From the article GabuEx linked: "The recording companies accused Thomas-Rasset of offering 1,700 songs on Kazaa as of February 2005, before the company became a legal music subscription service following a settlement with entertainment companies. For simplicity's sake the music industry tried to prove only 24 infringements. " No wonder she is in such big trouble.
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[QUOTE="omfg_its_dally"]From the article GabuEx linked: "The recording companies accused Thomas-Rasset of offering 1,700 songs on Kazaa as of February 2005, before the company became a legal music subscription service following a settlement with entertainment companies. For simplicity's sake the music industry tried to prove only 24 infringements. " No wonder she is in such big trouble.

Oh....................................................................I see. /boots up limewire (jk...)
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#50 cyberdarkkid
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I have 945 songs, what would my fine be?Statutory_AP3
$75,600,000 shame on you