Wow. Woman fined 1.9 million dollars for downloading 24 songs.

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[QUOTE="Famiking"] No - But it's pretty much the same thing. Let's say someone has this PC game that doesn't require the CD to run - and he installs it on his friend's computer. Would you call that piracy?Famiking

Actually, all those films you were shown in school were almost certainly shown in violation of copyright laws. I still wouldn't call it stealing though.

Thats insane, I'm assuming she shared the 24 songs to a lot of people?69ANT69

Overreaction, just proves how desperate all the record companies are having to get. Makes me glad they lose billions because of illegal downloading.

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if she tried to sell the mp3s then yes, sue her for all she is worth. However, the people who sued her usually have kids or teens that do the same. Artists today make way too much money and you should be happy people like your music enough to STEAL IT. As if Lars from metallica really needs a few more million ...

GabuEx

The thing that I always get uncomfortable about with the whole "downloading music = stealing" thing stems from an obvious question one might ask: what has been stolen? If I go into a store and steal a chocolate bar, then that chocolate bar has been unwillingly taken from the store owner; in other words, you have violated that store owner's property rights. That's pretty clear-cut.

If I download a song, however, what have I stolen? The song is still there, available to anyone who wants it. The only real thing that I have taken is the possibility that I might give someone money for that song. In other words, for this to count as theft, it must be implicitly asserted that the record companies have a right to my intention to buy their albums. And that seems a wee bit... well, disturbing.

She DISTRIBUTED the songs. On one hand the songs are available for sale, and this woman then illegally obtained the songs and provided them for free. That could equate to a substantial loss of money for the record companies, and this woman should be held liable. Whether or not people would have ACTUALLY paid for the songs had they not been available for free is irrelevant.

smh??starwarsjunky

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]What kind of stupidity is that? If they were consistent with this punishment almost everyone would be poor.cell_dweller

I would have loved to have said that lol,TY for speaking for me.

IM going to make her a CD to listen to in the clink...what tracks should I put on it? i was thinking of putting about 24 tracks on.:twisted:

Overreaction, just proves how desperate all the record companies are having to get. Makes me glad they lose billions because of illegal downloading.

T_P_O

If company A starts selling company B's products to people, company B would be able to sue company A for quite a lot of money - possibly millions, depending on what the product is and how much they lose from it.

So it follows that if company A starts giving away company B's products to people, company B would be able to sue company A for quite a lot of money, too (since it's essentially the same thing to company B).

Thus, if person A starts giving away company B's products to people, company B would be able to sue person A for quite a lot of money (again, same thing, in my mind).

Sure, it's a bit of an overreaction, but these overreactive trials are the *response* to piracy, not the cause of it. I'm glad that they're starting to fight back, bankrupting people who are illegally distributing their product.

Your statement really didn't make much sense, anyway. You're glad that they're losing money...because they annoy you when they complain about losing money? Circular logic ftl. :|

Could they not just fine her the amount of money that the songs would have cost?

You're glad that they're losing money...because they annoy you when they complain about losing money? Circular logic ftl. :|Planeforger

tl;dr, I didn't need to make sense, you don't need to respond to everything with a debate. They're not the cause obviously, but I doubt this woman has 1.9 million, and what did they lose, a couple of songs worth of money, for the billions they already make. It's silly, I would've been agreeing if they didn't overreact so badly, like they're ever going to eradicate piracy as well, that's wishful thinking.

[QUOTE="Planeforger"] You're glad that they're losing money...because they annoy you when they complain about losing money? Circular logic ftl. :|T_P_O

tl;dr, I didn't need to make sense, you don't need to respond to everything with a debate. They're not the cause obviously, but I doubt this woman has 1.9 million, and what did they lose, a couple of songs worth of money, for the billions they already make. It's silly, I would've been agreeing if they didn't overreact so badly, like they're ever going to eradicate piracy as well, that's wishful thinking.

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[QUOTE="Planeforger"] You're glad that they're losing money...because they annoy you when they complain about losing money? Circular logic ftl. :|AirGuitarist87

tl;dr, I didn't need to make sense, you don't need to respond to everything with a debate. They're not the cause obviously, but I doubt this woman has 1.9 million, and what did they lose, a couple of songs worth of money, for the billions they already make. It's silly, I would've been agreeing if they didn't overreact so badly, like they're ever going to eradicate piracy as well, that's wishful thinking.

You're glad that they're losing money...because they annoy you when they complain about losing money? Circular logic ftl. :|Planeforger

tl;dr, I didn't need to make sense, you don't need to respond to everything with a debate. They're not the cause obviously, but I doubt this woman has 1.9 million, and what did they lose, a couple of songs worth of money, for the billions they already make. It's silly, I would've been agreeing if they didn't overreact so badly, like they're ever going to eradicate piracy as well, that's wishful thinking.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/18/minnesota.music.download.fine/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Kinda makes you not want to ever download anything again huh?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/18/minnesota.music.download.fine/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Kinda makes you not want to ever download anything again huh?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/18/minnesota.music.download.fine/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Kinda makes you not want to ever download anything again huh?

[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="bsman00"] If your not suppose to download music movies for free why do they have bit torrent.... why dont they go after the source not some random user? bsman00

I'm not in the mood for sympathizing with the companies because of "would you be?". I don't have money to burn, I have to work for my money rather hard and my job pays far less than what the leaders of these companies do. T_P_O

What about the four children she supports? I mean I understand she broke the law, but those children in the end are gonna be the ones really paying for it.sSubZerOo

It's not like they sit on their bums going "bibbledy-bibbeldy-bibbeldy" all dayAirGuitarist87

Completely deserved as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You know stealing is just that. She took music that wasn't hers and passed it on.

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[QUOTE="Famiking"] No - But it's pretty much the same thing. Let's say someone has this PC game that doesn't require the CD to run - and he installs it on his friend's computer. Would you call that piracy?Famiking

Okay, obviously there is a big difference as copies of the books aren't being made. Let's take a hypothetical scenario though. Suppose a person could send a physical object anywhere around the world within minutes. Let's suppose robotics have become that advanced or something, whatever. Would it then be wrong to partake in a club where you could buy and sell music or games to anyone else in that club depending on whatever you wanted to use at that particular moment in time, such that when you're done with something, you sell it, and when you want it again, you buy it back for the same price? After all, this would almost have the same net effect as internet piracy. It would, however, be perfectly legal.

whats the poitn of fining her so much when in the picture shows multiple ppl doing the same thing

*stops iilegally downloading metallica and hides*

snare411

After the black album they should be giving us their music free.

You failed to mention the breakdown of the charges.

50$ for illegally downloading music and copyright infringement.

1.89 million for playing jonas brothers music in public - which is explicity outlawed by the geneva convention as cruel and unusual.

When I first heard about her, they said that she was distributing them or putting them up for download. They probably fined her for the amount of times the songs were downloaded.

Gotta love South America :P

The justice system is in serious need of an overhaul.

Isnt that about the same amount they fined people who they originaly fined at UNL? They dowloaded like five thousand songs.

lol that's ridiculous. A few years ago i knew somebody that had been caught downloading hundreds of songs, and was simply told "not to do it". That's it.

Way to ruin a persons life.

Her life is pretty much destroyed now, so what stops her from going revenge style on somebody?

[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"][QUOTE="Freebird8877"]What were the songs?GabuEx

The article lists the artists, at least. I think that she should have at least gotten the chair for having Linkin Park on her computer. :x

That's what happens when you are downloading illegally. I had a friend that got fined about $6500 because he got caught downloading movies, He downloaded the last Spiderman movie two weeks before it came out and they found out. He doesn't do it anymore.

That's what happens when you are downloading illegally. I had a friend that got fined about $6500 because he got caught downloading movies, He downloaded the last Spiderman movie two weeks before it came out and they found out. He doesn't do it anymore.

jjwalker9600

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That's what happens when you are downloading illegally. I had a friend that got fined about $6500 because he got caught downloading movies, He downloaded the last Spiderman movie two weeks before it came out and they found out. He doesn't do it anymore.

SpaceMoose

That's what happens when you are downloading illegally. I had a friend that got fined about $6500 because he got caught downloading movies, He downloaded the last Spiderman movie two weeks before it came out and they found out. He doesn't do it anymore.

It would have been more positive if she was fined like 10,000, and barred from having internet access of any kind.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]It would have been more positive if she was fined like 10,000, and barred from having internet access of any kind.AirGuitarist87