WTF Happened to Rap?

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#51 hiphopballer
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buddy it died a long time ago. well not really. its underground while new rap is messing up the image. i bet one day it will pop out and own again

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#52 Too_tight_shoes
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buddy it died a long time ago. well not really. its underground while new rap is messing up the image. i bet one day it will pop out and own again

hiphopballer
Half of the industry is waiting for Detox... that thing is like Duke Nukem.
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#53 TM_Darkside
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[QUOTE="hiphopballer"]

buddy it died a long time ago. well not really. its underground while new rap is messing up the image. i bet one day it will pop out and own again

Too_tight_shoes

Half of the industry is waiting for Detox... that thing is like Duke Nukem.

Hip-hop equivalent of Chinese Democracy.

And it will probably be just as much of a letdown to the general public.

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#54 urdead18
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It's still around.

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#55 Too_tight_shoes
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[QUOTE="Too_tight_shoes"][QUOTE="hiphopballer"]

buddy it died a long time ago. well not really. its underground while new rap is messing up the image. i bet one day it will pop out and own again

TM_Darkside

Half of the industry is waiting for Detox... that thing is like Duke Nukem.

Hip-hop equivalent of Chinese Democracy.

And it will probably be just as much of a letdown to the general public.

Fingers crossed, but chances are he has lost his touch... it happens when you've been living in a mansion for the past 20 something years.
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#56 tocklestein2005
Member since 2008 • 5532 Posts

meh, I don't care...never listened to it. :)

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#57 wstfld
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They need to start shooting each other again. That's when it was the best.
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#58 SapSacPrime
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And 10 years a new generation are gonna be saying the same thing. Except they will look back on today's rappers as the best. Times change.Y2Jfan23
Beat me to it. Also LL cool J I could stand but all the ganster rappers you listed were just as crap as lil wayne, the only reason anybody bought their rubbish was because they sold violence and rebellion... :|.
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#59 eyebrowless
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only some rap still interests me, and thats only if they have a really good bass when i'm high
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#60 MrBubbles59
Member since 2010 • 686 Posts

This is the only new rap song that I like.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxmJfosgAfk

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#61 Alter_Echo
Member since 2003 • 10724 Posts

Rap happened to Rap.

Sadly, the only thing that can save it....is itself.

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#62 chrisrooR
Member since 2007 • 9027 Posts
Lil' Wayne happened.
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#63 RGDT021
Member since 2008 • 939 Posts

The best rap of the past 5 years has come from J-Roc and the Roc Pile.

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#64 On3ShotOneKill
Member since 2008 • 1219 Posts

Good mainstream rap may be dead, not rap in general.

This song by Nujabes and Substanial is lyrically awesome, and sends an intellectual/positive message:

(Contains some strong language): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noXWN6JHEM4

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#65 njean777
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It's sad man, it really is. I used to be a really, really big fan. Not only that, I produced, MCed, went to lots of shows, helped keep the local scenes going wherever I lived... Stuff like Biggie, Wu-Tang, 2Pac, Dre, Outkast, Pharcyde, the Roots, Common, Tribe Called Quest, NWA, Dre, Snoop, etc etc etc were classics. Rap has not been the same since Pac and Big died, and it hasn't even been good for years now, apart from Jay-Z, Nas, and a few others. I can't stand the current commercial stuff like Lil Wayne and T-Pain. It's just created this whole other dynamic of rap music where 2 people can be "rap music fans", but one likes Apathy, Aesop Rock, MF Doom, Brother Ali, etc., and the other one likes T-Pain, Clipse, Lady Gaga and they will never meet in the middle. Honestly I think it's junk now, it's turned me off of rap entirely, and to say I was a "big fan" would be a tremendous understatement. Now I listen to more rock, and keep my reggae going, among others. In terms of rap I still listen to the same stuff I did 10 years ago.Hahadouken

i would not put clipse in that same sentence as t-pain, and lady gaga. Clipse is not crap like the other 2 listed.

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#66 chrisrooR
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Good mainstream rap may be dead, not rap in general.

This song by Nujabes and Substanial is lyrically awesome, and sends an intellectual/positive message:

(Contains some strong language): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noXWN6JHEM4

On3ShotOneKill
Wow, that was actually a great song. I really like the optimistic rhymes.
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#67 Sligs02
Member since 2010 • 231 Posts

Speaking of underground rap, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned P.O.S., Doomtree, Atmosphere, or Aesop Rock.

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#68 On3ShotOneKill
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[QUOTE="On3ShotOneKill"]

Good mainstream rap may be dead, not rap in general.

This song by Nujabes and Substanial is lyrically awesome, and sends an intellectual/positive message:

(Contains some strong language): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noXWN6JHEM4

chrisrooR

Wow, that was actually a great song. I really like the optimistic rhymes.

Yeah, and Nujabes as usual providing his exceptional beats :P

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#69 mariokart64fan
Member since 2003 • 20828 Posts

the same thing that has happened to disco ,,

vhs , beta tapes rugrats its forgotten , no one hardly listen to it ,it became hip hop and r and b ,

pop and rock ,,

rap died when alot of the old rappers died or went off to do somthing else

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#70 needled24-7
Member since 2007 • 15902 Posts

really the only rap i listen to is pac, biggie, nwa, some krs one, and lupe

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#71 taylor888
Member since 2005 • 2232 Posts

This is WTF happened to rap. But it is more like a "praise the lord" WTF, since it is so awesome.

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#72 butteman12
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njean777

What would you define as "good rap" nowadays? And please, for the love of all things holy, don't say Souja Boy.

Blu and exile

fashawn

wale

j.cole

charles hamilton

lupe fiasco

B.O.B

clipse

raekwon, wu-tang in general

Kanye- when he isnt electro

freddie gibbs

the cool kids

the roots

i could keep on going....

dont forget wiz khalifa :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6vB9hh516U

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#73 ChubbyGuy40
Member since 2007 • 26442 Posts

This is WTF happened to rap. But it is more like a "praise the lord" WTF, since it is so awesome.

taylor888

That...actually wasn't bad. And I despise rap.

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#74 Scarface_tm431
Member since 2004 • 10063 Posts
Drake, Cudi, Wale can still save mainstream hiphop
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#75 muffincakes87
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It changed over time, just like every other genre. Not necessary a bad thing.

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#76 dk00111
Member since 2007 • 3123 Posts
It went underground. Plus, the older artists like Nas and Ice Cube still make good music.
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#77 Regent192
Member since 2009 • 6789 Posts

it happened to pop too

it went from michael jackson to justin bieber............

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#78 coolkid93
Member since 2007 • 6749 Posts
I know, it turned into crap. No wonder some people call it rape. I like the old stuff better. 2 pac was the only rapper that I heard where majority of his album was great. Like if he had 12 songs, 9 or 10 of them would be good. Ever since 06 passed, it's gone down hill. Jayz is the best out now but I wouldn't say he beats every body, he's overrated. I've heard better but he's good. I'd say he's one of the best though. Lil Wayne... I just don't see how he's considered one of the best rappers ever. I mean I like a few of his songs but he's overrated also. Now and days it seems that people are either overrating things or underrating them. Old=great. New= sucks (majority of it anyways) And I don't know if it's just me or not but it seems for some artists, the longer they stay out, the more their songs aren't that impressive (or in other words go down hill).
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[QUOTE="Y2Jfan23"]And 10 years a new generation are gonna be saying the same thing. Except they will look back on today's rappers as the best. Times change.SapSacPrime
Beat me to it. Also LL cool J I could stand but all the ganster rappers you listed were just as crap as lil wayne, the only reason anybody bought their rubbish was because they sold violence and rebellion... :|.

No dude, just no. You cannot compare the likes of Tupac and Biggie with Lil Wayne. The artists that I listed were not sellling their albums off of violence. The were all talented writers who just made great music.

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#80 JustPlainLucas
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Don't blame the rappers. Blame the audience. They're the ones who support this crap, buying songs by hacks like Plies and Guccie Mane and the like. The average listener is getting dumber every year. They don't want to listen to rap if it's not monosyllablic enough.
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#81 JustPlainLucas
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No dude, just no. You cannot compare the likes of Tupac and Biggie with Lil Wayne. The artists that I listed were not sellling their albums off of violence. The were all talented writers who just made great music.

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They tell violent stories, though. Yes, every song they made wasn't violent, but you have to admit, their street stories got them recognized.
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#82 JustPlainLucas
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Drake, Cudi, Wale can still save mainstream hiphopScarface_tm431
Drake needs to disassociate himself from Lil Wayne and Young Money. His material is getting old. Also, since I found out he was an actor on Degrassi, it's hard for me to take him seriously anymore. Cudi.. never really liked him. He's just too experimental. Wale... I did enjoy Attention Deficit, but he's not getting he exposure he needs here in Colorado. The radio played Chillin' a few times, and then that was it.

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#83 taylor888
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[QUOTE="taylor888"]

This is WTF happened to rap. But it is more like a "praise the lord" WTF, since it is so awesome.

ChubbyGuy40

That...actually wasn't bad. And I despise rap.

glad to hear it
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#84 biggest_loser
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I was going to make a rap album!
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#85 Nifty_Shark
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Perhaps mainstream rap is mostly just "pump that bass up really loud yo! We goin clubbin and pickin up chix durrr"
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#86 Ace_WondersX
Member since 2003 • 4455 Posts

Rap/Hip-hop is better than ever. The only difference between the 90s and now is that the good stuff isn't on the radio and TV, but it's still there.

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#87 Elephant_Couple
Member since 2010 • 1404 Posts

Nothing 'happened' to rap. It has always been terrible. It's rap that 'happened' to music.

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#88 SuperSaiyanLink
Member since 2003 • 19542 Posts

Nothing 'happened' to rap. It has always been terrible. It's rap that 'happened' to music.

Elephant_Couple

You're missing out.

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#89 the_new_guy_92
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Nothing 'happened' to rap. It has always been terrible. It's rap that 'happened' to music.

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#90 Elephant_Couple
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[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

Nothing 'happened' to rap. It has always been terrible. It's rap that 'happened' to music.

SuperSaiyanLink

You're missing out.

Sorry. My taste is a little too sophisticated to enjoy the mind-numbing repetition, lack of melody, and lack of rhythmic creativity that is rap. While it might technically be 'music,' I don't even consider it that.

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#91 the_new_guy_92
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[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

Nothing 'happened' to rap. It has always been terrible. It's rap that 'happened' to music.

Elephant_Couple

You're missing out.

Sorry. My taste is a little too sophisticated to enjoy the mind-numbing repetition, lack of melody, and lack of rhythmic creativity that is rap. While it might technically be 'music,' I don't even consider it that.

You're a classical fan?
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#92 Elephant_Couple
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[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]You're missing out.

the_new_guy_92

Sorry. My taste is a little too sophisticated to enjoy the mind-numbing repetition, lack of melody, and lack of rhythmic creativity that is rap. While it might technically be 'music,' I don't even consider it that.

You're a classical fan?

Classical, jazz, and any kind of modern experimental or progressive music.

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#93 TrapMuzik92
Member since 2009 • 3424 Posts
Rap is so sataic now