wtf, victim of burglary got jailed, while THE BURGLAR got away!

I've been told that if your going to defend yourself make sure you do it in your house, and not outside. The law is very strange, but this type of stuff is not new.

I've been told that if your going to defend yourself make sure you do it in your house, and not outside. The law is very strange, but this type of stuff is not new.

zmbi_gmr

haha thats terrible ! :P

A good case for owning a gun the burglar should have been shot.

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

I've been told that if your going to defend yourself make sure you do it in your house, and not outside. The law is very strange, but this type of stuff is not new.

Jandurin

your point? i was not saying to beat the criminal till they have brain damage. i was only stating that you should only defend inside of your house.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

I've been told that if your going to defend yourself make sure you do it in your house, and not outside. The law is very strange, but this type of stuff is not new.

your point? i was not saying to beat the criminal till they have brain damage. i was only stating that you should only defend inside of your house.

did you read the article? Mr Hussain made a break for freedom by throwing a coffee table at his attackers. He and Tokeer chased the gang and brought Salem to the ground in a front garden. Reading Crown Court heard how Mr Hussain and his brother then beat Salem while he lay on the ground, using a cricket bat, a pole and a hockey stick - leaving him with a fractured skull and brain damage following the 'sustained' attack. Jandurin

I would have done worse to the guy, im sorry if the justice system doesn't agree but if someone comes into my home threatens the life of my daughter and wife and thinks that if the oppertunity arrises that I wouldn't take his life... im just not going to take any chances, the guy could have killed them all or raped his wife and really messed up a family I bet then the court would be understanding of the situation.Too_tight_shoes

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] You're no longer "defending yourself" when the assailant is unconscious on the ground.Jandurin

your point? i was not saying to beat the criminal till they have brain damage. i was only stating that you should only defend inside of your house.

O I C, the man went over board on what he did, but until you, myself or anyone is put in that situationit's hard to say howwe would react.

[QUOTE="Too_tight_shoes"]I would have done worse to the guy, im sorry if the justice system doesn't agree but if someone comes into my home threatens the life of my daughter and wife and thinks that if the oppertunity arrises that I wouldn't take his life... im just not going to take any chances, the guy could have killed them all or raped his wife and really messed up a family I bet then the court would be understanding of the situation.RiseAgainst12

I would have done worse to the guy, im sorry if the justice system doesn't agree but if someone comes into my home threatens the life of my daughter and wife and thinks that if the oppertunity arrises that I wouldn't take his life... im just not going to take any chances, the guy could have killed them all or raped his wife and really messed up a family I bet then the court would be understanding of the situation.Too_tight_shoes

O I C, the man went over board on what he did, but until you, myself or anyone is put in that situationit's hard to say howwe would react.

zmbi_gmr

Your point being, im sorry but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I let a group of vile people think kid napping or holding people hostage and God knows what they do, live. killing people like will make the world a better place.Too_tight_shoes

You'd kill someone for a crime he hasn't committed?

Jandurin

You say that as if I have just said im going to kill someone that hasn't done anything!

The group attempted to keep a family hostage! the were in the process of commiting a crime... let them run loose and try it again to another family? NO thank you.

I wouldn't be able to sleep if I heard on the news that the same group that got away have killed innocent people whilst trying it again, I have no sympathy nor will I have any remorse to people like that if I catch them in the act.

You can call me a "criminal" but in all honesty its the idiotic system and leniency towards criminals thats made me feel the way I feel.

A good case for owning a gun the burglar should have been shot.

corwinn01

I agree. He'll be back at it in a couple weeks and he might not stop at tying up and threatening the next family.

[QUOTE="corwinn01"]

A good case for owning a gun the burglar should have been shot.

I agree. He'll be back at it in a couple weeks and he might not stop at tying up and threatening the next family.

The whole world not just britain needs to be wiped out completely to rid it of all the evil, corruption and injustice its full off and run by. The human race is a disease that needs purging.

That judge is an idiot. I hope he dies in a fire.

shoot-first

Guys, guys. Criminals have rights too. You don't just lose your status as a human because you commit crimes >_>Jandurin

That's ridiculous. A man should have the right to do what he wishes to those who trespass on his property. I would have killed the traspasser if I had the ability. Call me brutal, insane, crazy, I don't care, no one comes into my home and threatens my family like that.

That's ridiculous. A man should have the right to do what he wishes to those who trespass on his property. I would have killed the traspasser if I had the ability. Call me brutal, insane, crazy, I don't care, no one comes into my home and threatens my family like that.

jamejame

That's ridiculous. A man should have the right to do what he wishes to those who trespass on his property. I would have killed the traspasser if I had the ability. Call me brutal, insane, crazy, I don't care, no one comes into my home and threatens my family like that.

[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"][QUOTE="jamejame"]

That's ridiculous. A man should have the right to do what he wishes to those who trespass on his property. I would have killed the traspasser if I had the ability. Call me brutal, insane, crazy, I don't care, no one comes into my home and threatens my family like that.

Too_tight_shoes

[QUOTE="jamejame"]

That's ridiculous. A man should have the right to do what he wishes to those who trespass on his property. I would have killed the traspasser if I had the ability. Call me brutal, insane, crazy, I don't care, no one comes into my home and threatens my family like that.

Big_Bad_Sad

[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

That judge is an idiot. I hope he dies in a fire.

Big_Bad_Sad

[QUOTE="Too_tight_shoes"][QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"] Beat him to an inch of his life for trespassing? So when a cold caller knocks at my house and I tell him hes trespassing I can beat him over the head with a cricket bat?RiseAgainst12

I'd imagine he tried to raise self defence for what he did, but for that you need to use necessary force and reasonable force. The force he applied wasn't that reasonable: "When the intruders fled, Hussain and his brother chased and caught one of the men and attacked him".

Also, the Daily Mail is pure crap, I'd advise you to stay away from it

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Guys, guys. Criminals have rights too. You don't just lose your status as a human because you commit crimes >_>Ontain

I'd imagine he tried to raise self defence for what he did, but for that you need to use necessary force and reasonable force. The force he applied wasn't that reasonable: "When the intruders fled, Hussain and his brother chased and caught one of the men and attacked him".

Also, the Daily Mail is pure crap, I'd advise you to stay away from it

T_P_O

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

I'd imagine he tried to raise self defence for what he did, but for that you need to use necessary force and reasonable force. The force he applied wasn't that reasonable: "When the intruders fled, Hussain and his brother chased and caught one of the men and attacked him".

Also, the Daily Mail is pure crap, I'd advise you to stay away from it

kaangonultas

The law system is a mess...seriously...the guy was holding his family hostage...i would've done the same..if not worse...i say the guy that got beaten is lucky to be alive...if i would have gotten my hands on him he wouldn't be...

[QUOTE="kaangonultas"]

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

I'd imagine he tried to raise self defence for what he did, but for that you need to use necessary force and reasonable force. The force he applied wasn't that reasonable: "When the intruders fled, Hussain and his brother chased and caught one of the men and attacked him".

Also, the Daily Mail is pure crap, I'd advise you to stay away from it

T_P_O

I'd imagine he tried to raise self defence for what he did, but for that you need to use necessary force and reasonable force. The force he applied wasn't that reasonable: "When the intruders fled, Hussain and his brother chased and caught one of the men and attacked him".

Also, the Daily Mail is pure crap, I'd advise you to stay away from it

T_P_O

[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="kaangonultas"]Daily Mail is the only proper newspaper in England.

kaangonultas

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

I'd imagine he tried to raise self defence for what he did, but for that you need to use necessary force and reasonable force. The force he applied wasn't that reasonable: "When the intruders fled, Hussain and his brother chased and caught one of the men and attacked him".

Also, the Daily Mail is pure crap, I'd advise you to stay away from it

what they should have down was send the victim to therapy (for anger, basically a slap on the wrist) and the home invader to prison.Ontain

[QUOTE="tormentor313"]but cant you kill someone if they come onto your property? seabiscuit8686

Isn't there something called reasonable force though? Shooting someone once might be justified in some cases, but you don't have the right to then walk up and shoot them in the head. And unless you do there will always be the gray area of what is considered reasonable force given the situation. Shooting someoe more then once could be seen as excessive and in breach of the law.

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

I'd imagine he tried to raise self defence for what he did, but for that you need to use necessary force and reasonable force. The force he applied wasn't that reasonable: "When the intruders fled, Hussain and his brother chased and caught one of the men and attacked him".

Also, the Daily Mail is pure crap, I'd advise you to stay away from it

jamejame

thats what you call self ownage

And justice.. for all?

I think we need a law that states that if someone ties you up and threatens to kill you, giving him brain damage should be legal. Chojuto