y do atheists celebrate x-mas?

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#101 The_Ish
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It makes no sense to me. They do it for the toys.

flavort

Christians do it to avoid going to work.

lol, generalizations.

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#102 flavort
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[QUOTE="flavort"][QUOTE="JJ4545"][QUOTE="Whight_Knight"]

Yes , they do , when they really don't have any right to ... don't have a right to revcieve presents or anything at all.Personally, I think athiests at Christmas should not get Christmas bonus , school holidays for Christmas etc.Because they don't believe in it.

The_Ish

You think being Christian gives you the "right" to celebrate christmas?

Is that a trick question?

Being Christian does not give one the "right" to be Christian. Just being does.

everybody has the right to do anything really

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#103 flavort
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[QUOTE="flavort"]

It makes no sense to me. They do it for the toys.

The_Ish

Christians do it to avoid going to work.

lol, generalizations.

I celebrate every religion so I dont have to go to work

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#104 The_Ish
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everybody has the right to do anything really

flavort

Yes, thank you for agreeing with me.

I celebrate every religion so I dont have to go to work

flavort

And others celebrate every holiday to be with their family...so don't generalize.

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#105 Vick_Devi
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I think my family does it just for fun/warm fuzzy feelings...hmm~
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#106 flavort
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[QUOTE="Whight_Knight"]

Yes , they do , when they really don't have any right to ... don't have a right to revcieve presents or anything at all.Personally, I think athiests at Christmas should not get Christmas bonus , school holidays for Christmas etc.Because they don't believe in it.

The_Ish

First off...athiests like being with their family...second off, Christmas is celebrated by a seculargovernment, if you're going to deny athiests the right to celebrate a secular holiday n the grounds that it's supposed to be religious...then we shouldn't have Christmas as a holiday in the first place. Or even Christmas bonuses.

Christmas bonuses are a business decision to make, whether it is out of kindness or not. I agree with your logic about that. Religious holidays have nothing to do with the government. Anyway they have never sent me a Christmas card so what do you mean they celebrate it? Many holidays are acknowledged. I do understand if your point is they give Christmas vacations and maybe not Hanukkah vacation. I do think that teachers that are not Christian dont need to come to work on their religious holidays as well as the students. It might be weird to keep school open for Christmas if the majority of the kids are Christians.
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#107 flavort
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[QUOTE="flavort"]

everybody has the right to do anything really

The_Ish

Yes, thank you for agreeing with me.

I celebrate every religion so I dont have to go to work

flavort

And others celebrate every holiday to be with their family...so don't generalize.

Your family can decide to have a family day that they celebrate once a month to be together also so whats the significance? I was not generalizing either it was more of a joke of your generalization that Christians celebrate Christmas to get out of work.

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#108 Rikusaki
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athiests celebrate x-mas cuz of the presents! i like presents!
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#109 foxhound_fox
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Because Christmas is not a religious holiday, it is a commercial holiday. And as for the "birth of Jesus" argument, he was born in the spring, Christmas is a pagan winter solstice festival adapted and reinterpreted by Christians.

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#110 fynne
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I don't. To me it's just another day off....with lots of cheap shopping before and after. The biggest downside for me is that the TV schedule kinda sucks....
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#111 flavort
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Because Christmas is not a religious holiday, it is a commercial holiday. And as for the "birth of Jesus" argument, he was born in the spring, Christmas is a pagan winter solstice festival adapted and reinterpreted by Christians.

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Actually that is right. Many things were celebrated at that time so Christians decided that was when to celebrate the birth of Jesus.

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#112 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="flavort"]

everybody has the right to do anything really

flavort

Yes, thank you for agreeing with me.

I celebrate every religion so I dont have to go to work

flavort

And others celebrate every holiday to be with their family...so don't generalize.

Your family can decide to have a family day that they celebrate once a month to be together also so whats the significance? I was not generalizing either it was more of a joke of your generalization that Christians celebrate Christmas to get out of work.

And so whats wrong with one more day? Not everyone celebrates someone else's religion for materialistic religions, so your generalizations are still wrong.

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#113 flavort
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[QUOTE="flavort"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="flavort"]

everybody has the right to do anything really

The_Ish

Yes, thank you for agreeing with me.

I celebrate every religion so I dont have to go to work

flavort

And others celebrate every holiday to be with their family...so don't generalize.

Your family can decide to have a family day that they celebrate once a month to be together also so whats the significance? I was not generalizing either it was more of a joke of your generalization that Christians celebrate Christmas to get out of work.

And so whats wrong with one more day? Not everyone celebrates someone else's religion for materialistic religions, so your generalizations are still wrong.

Nothings wrong with that. To say that the majority, LARGE majority, does not celebrate Christmas for materialistic reasons is absurd.
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#114 ALTER_duo
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Yes , they do , when they really don't have any right to ... don't have a right to revcieve presents or anything at all.Personally, I think athiests at Christmas should not get Christmas bonus , school holidays for Christmas etc.Because they don't believe in it.

Whight_Knight

The Bible tells you why "he" lets us and why we do.

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#115 The_Ish
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Nothings wrong with that. To say that the majority, LARGE majority, does not celebrate Christmas for materialistic reasons is absurd.flavort

To say they do is absurd.

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#116 flavort
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[QUOTE="flavort"]Nothings wrong with that. To say that the majority, LARGE majority, does not celebrate Christmas for materialistic reasons is absurd.The_Ish

To say they do is absurd.

depends I guess if you talk about kids or adults.

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#117 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="flavort"]Nothings wrong with that. To say that the majority, LARGE majority, does not celebrate Christmas for materialistic reasons is absurd.flavort

To say they do is absurd.

depends I guess if you talk about kids or adults.

Not really.

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#118 hamstergeddon
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I do, but hey free food, presents, and a chance to get together with my family!
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#119 cool_baller
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Presents, obvisouly.
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#120 TallicaFan2005
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It's more of a secular holiday now (like all the other major ones), more about family, and celebration than whatever they are originally meant for.

To me X-mas is about seeing family, eating food, and spoiling yourself and others... Half of Christians probably don't even celebrate Jesus's "birth"..... I mean, the Christians who go to church like once a year...

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#121 LouieV13
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Free money and presents are the only reasons I go to xmas stuff.
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#122 gameeer1
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Why do Christians celebrate a pagan holiday?Def_Jef88
You know, I was thinking the same thing.
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#123 krazykillaz
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My entire family celebrates it. I don't celebrate per se. I enjoy that it brings us all together.
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#124 rockguy92
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I've always wondered that too.
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#125 krazykillaz
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Free stuff and family.

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The gifts aren't even a big thing to me anymore. I just like the food and the family.
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#126 Epak_
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[QUOTE="RHCP87"]

Free stuff and family.

krazykillaz

The gifts aren't even a big thing to me anymore. I just like the food and the family.

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#127 DeSainte
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And yet almost every religious holiday celebrated in the western world has been co-opted from an earlier pagan holiday, INCLUDING Christmas. How do you explain that?
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#128 dgbiker1
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Because xmas as we know it is a product of coca-cola, not jesus, and atheists drink coke too.
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#129 kbubba92
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christmas still comes from religion does it not? i am not saying that atheists have no right to celebrate christmas and should be executed,no, i am just wondering y they would if they dont believe in anything. holy friggin sh!t
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#130 manningbowl135
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Being around family? Presents? Being materialistic? Holiday? Pretty obvious. I'd celebrate it to if people would give me gifts for it. But sadly they can look at me and see I'm just posing. (look at avatar)

Just b/c you're atheist doesn't mean you can't take advantage of religion to satisfy your materialistic urges. (I'm sooo wordy)

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#131 Sir_Marwin
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[QUOTE="krazykillaz"][QUOTE="RHCP87"]

Free stuff and family.

Epak_

The gifts aren't even a big thing to me anymore. I just like the food and the family.



pretty much same here.... Poron Käristys ftw :P
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#132 wemhim
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The thing is, I just don't believe in a Deity, I have nothing wrong with holidays, regardless of what religion it came from, I have nothing wrong with religion either.

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#133 JLAudio7
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They are greedy.
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#134 the_foreign_guy
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I don't think it should matter. I celebrate a pagan holiday.
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#135 Food_Nipple
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Almost no one in the US celebrates christmas. They celebrate the thing commercialismturned christmas into. It's supposed to be a day to honor jesus with your family, not opening gifts under an inexplicable tree in your house. I'm atheist and I celebrate the gift opening part. I don't care who December 25 is supposed to honor. All I know is it's my favorite day of the year and if you don't like that, well then **** you.

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#136 SpootyHead
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Because Christmas is now a commerical holiday with no religious value. It used to be a pagan holiday anyways, before the Christians took it. December 25th isn't even Jesus's birthday.
Its a crap holiday where we show how much of consumer whores really are, and it brings our crappy fighting families together.
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#137 mgreener_34
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why would someone not want free stuff?
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#138 Krazy_duck
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Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, some Muslims, even Satanists celebrate Christmas (at least in America(. People jump at the excuse to give and get presents. It's become a cultural holiday, instead of a religious one now.
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#139 bobaban
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Atheists celebrate the commercial side of christmas, not the religious side.
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#140 darksword1123
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For The presents
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#141 CommanderShiro
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after all christmas came from religion and the reason it is celebrated is bc of jesus' birth. so y do atheists celebrate x-mas?kbubba92
Oh please, these days many people are more concerned about the commercialized aspects of the holiday instead of religion. As for me, I'm a Buddhist and celebrate Christmas. Wait how does that make sense? Well, my family and many other non-Christians I know like the idea of gift giving and spending time with the family and all that traditional stuff, excluding the religious nature of it during the winter season.
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#142 Devoo55
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They celibrate it because there is no such thing as atheism.
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#143 Planeforger
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Wikipedia:

Pre-Christian winter festivals

A winter festival was traditionally the most popular festival of the year in many cultures. Reasons included less agricultural work needing to be done during the winter, as well as people expecting longer days and shorter nights after the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere.[1] In part, the Christmas celebration was created by the early Church in order to entice pagan Romans to convert to Christianity without losing their own winter celebrations.[2][3] Most of the most important gods in the religions of Ishtar and Mithra had their birthdays on December 25. Various traditions are considered to have been syncretised from various winter festivals.

'Christmas', as we call it, has traditionally been a time of celebration. Christians didn't invent the holiday - they just adopted it from other cultures.

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#144 Travo_basic
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C'mon, they want presents too
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#145 espoac
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They celibrate it because there is no such thing as atheism.Devoo55
What? But I'm an atheist...
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#146 x_fly_to_fall_x
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I do it for the drugs--- I mean... Presents. :|
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#147 Messer_Partei
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A better question would be "why do christians celebrate x-mas?" (in the way they do) decorated trees, santa, stockings, eggnog, and reathes have nothing to do with jesus' birth...
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#148 Bauers-Twin
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cause they're lazy and wnat an excuse to get presents.
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#149 waitaseck
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Why do people that are not Christians (other religions)celebrate Christmas?
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#150 Abigorus
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I don't believe in Christianity and I still "celebrate" X-mas. I do not celebrate the birth of Jesus, it's more of an excuse to get together with my family.