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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] I thought people who exclusively watched those two comedy shows were better versed on current events than Fox viewers according to surveys.Ace6301Would have to see the source but I bet that's confounded by other news sources (online, newspapers, etc).http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/174826/survey-nprs-listeners-best-informed-fox-news-viewers-worst-informed/
 I remember taking a statistics class (got a B), last I remember, a survey like that would be too small to represent everyone, it is also skewed.  Btw, those questions suck, who is going to know unless they were focusing on those issues?  Sorry to burst your bubble.  Its not that hard to tell that political news is not neutral oriented. Â
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/174826/survey-nprs-listeners-best-informed-fox-news-viewers-worst-informed/[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Would have to see the source but I bet that's confounded by other news sources (online, newspapers, etc).mahlasor
 I remember taking a statistics class (got a B), last I remember, a survey like that would be too small to represent everyone, it is also skewed.  Btw, those questions suck, who is going to know unless they were focusing on those issues?  Sorry to burst your bubble.  Its not that hard to tell that political news is not neutral oriented. Â
That sample size is not small. Right away I'm already doubting your claim due to a poor understanding of how statistics works. You need to explain why it is "skewed". I can answer all those questions despite some being quite dated and several not being areas of interest, I would expect people who actively watch the news to be aware of these especially while they were major news stories. Chess has legitimate questions about the validity of the study but I also know that Chess is quite well versed on a number of things. I cannot say the same about you in either respect.[QUOTE="mahlasor"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/174826/survey-nprs-listeners-best-informed-fox-news-viewers-worst-informed/Ace6301
 I remember taking a statistics class (got a B), last I remember, a survey like that would be too small to represent everyone, it is also skewed.  Btw, those questions suck, who is going to know unless they were focusing on those issues?  Sorry to burst your bubble.  Its not that hard to tell that political news is not neutral oriented. Â
That sample size is not small. Right away I'm already doubting your claim due to a poor understanding of how statistics works. You need to explain why it is "skewed". I can answer all those questions despite some being quite dated and several not being areas of interest, I would expect people who actively watch the news to be aware of these especially while they were major news stories. Chess has legitimate questions about the validity of the study but I also know that Chess is quite well versed on a number of things. I cannot say the same about you in either respect. Another legitimate concern is that most of the questions were open-ended, which suggests that the experimenters would have to exercise some judgment in deeming what qualifies as a 'correct' answer. Without knowing what criteria they applied to these, it's hard to judge the results.[QUOTE="mahlasor"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/174826/survey-nprs-listeners-best-informed-fox-news-viewers-worst-informed/Ace6301
 I remember taking a statistics class (got a B), last I remember, a survey like that would be too small to represent everyone, it is also skewed.  Btw, those questions suck, who is going to know unless they were focusing on those issues?  Sorry to burst your bubble.  Its not that hard to tell that political news is not neutral oriented. Â
That sample size is not small. Right away I'm already doubting your claim due to a poor understanding of how statistics works. You need to explain why it is "skewed". I can answer all those questions despite some being quite dated and several not being areas of interest, I would expect people who actively watch the news to be aware of these especially while they were major news stories. Chess has legitimate questions about the validity of the study but I also know that Chess is quite well versed on a number of things. I cannot say the same about you in either respect. Come on man, the first three paragraphs contradict eachother.  I remember in a statistic test question, they mentioned 1000 sample size, it was considering too low of a number to represent millions.  Its all open ended, so its very subjective.  It was obviously aimed against opposing Fox news opinion.  This is clearly a biased study.  Lets do the math
eight groups divided by 1000, that is 125 people representing millions of people of each group. Â This "study," does not even say how many of each group was involved. Â If you watched Jon Stewart, how the hell woudl you know the answer to any of those questions? Â It is a pseudo study.Â
They are about as good at giving you the news as The Daily Show or The Colbert Report, and are a lot less funny.chessmaster1989I will say that both those shows, particularly Colbert, have really gotten away from telling you the full story. They give you enough to get the joke, but a lot of the time you need to be paying attention to other news outlets to know what they are talking about.
That sample size is not small. Right away I'm already doubting your claim due to a poor understanding of how statistics works. You need to explain why it is "skewed". I can answer all those questions despite some being quite dated and several not being areas of interest, I would expect people who actively watch the news to be aware of these especially while they were major news stories. Chess has legitimate questions about the validity of the study but I also know that Chess is quite well versed on a number of things. I cannot say the same about you in either respect.[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="mahlasor"]
 I remember taking a statistics class (got a B), last I remember, a survey like that would be too small to represent everyone, it is also skewed.  Btw, those questions suck, who is going to know unless they were focusing on those issues?  Sorry to burst your bubble.  Its not that hard to tell that political news is not neutral oriented. Â
mahlasor
 Come on man, the first three paragraphs contradict eachother.  I remember in a statistic test question, they mentioned 1000 sample size, it was considering too low of a number to represent millions.  Its all open ended, so its very subjective.  It was obviously aimed against opposing Fox news opinion.  This is clearly a biased study.  Lets do the math
eight groups divided by 1000, that is 125 people representing millions of people of each group. Â This "study," does not even say how many of each group was involved. Â If you watched Jon Stewart, how the hell woudl you know the answer to any of those questions? Â It is a pseudo study.Â
So either you don't understand statistics or you don't understand English. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with statistics because it can be tricky stuff and a B is an alright grade but certainly nothing to brag about. This is of course assuming you're not just lying and misrepresenting your level of education in an attempt to discredit something that you disagree with. No one would do that though, right?[QUOTE="Ackad"]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWbPpFZ31s
I'll just leave that here
mahlasor
That would be a biased sample, that would be about that individual, does not represent Fox as a whole. Â Btw, I have seen liberals do that kind of thing far more often, and had it happen to me in real life. Â I have listened to conservatives on the radio and I dont see them being rude and not letting people talk, or trying to downplay things. Â
Actually, that's very representative of Fox News. According to Reza Aslan, some producers were shouting down Lauren Green's earpiece telling her what to say. Also, it's not the first time Fox News has done terribly biased interviews like that before.
He is scary looking, but always straight forward. Good guyAre you aware that he is paralyzed and is in a wheel chair and can't move from the neck down? I don't know if that has anything to do with his face, but it is why he breathes the way he does when he talks and never uses any hand gestures or moves much at all when he speaks. Holy shit I did not know that. Couldn't even tell...[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Master_Live"]I like Charles Krauthammer. BMD004
[QUOTE="mahlasor"]
[QUOTE="Ackad"]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWbPpFZ31s
I'll just leave that here
Jag85
That would be a biased sample, that would be about that individual, does not represent Fox as a whole. Â Btw, I have seen liberals do that kind of thing far more often, and had it happen to me in real life. Â I have listened to conservatives on the radio and I dont see them being rude and not letting people talk, or trying to downplay things. Â
Actually, that's very representative of Fox News. According to Reza Aslan, some producers were shouting down Lauren Green's earpiece telling her what to say. Also, it's not the first time Fox News has done terribly biased interviews like that before.
They pull this crap occasionally but not constantly. This is certainly one of the worst interviews I've seen them do but it isn't like this happens every day, seems like about once a year something like this comes out.[QUOTE="mahlasor"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] That sample size is not small. Right away I'm already doubting your claim due to a poor understanding of how statistics works. You need to explain why it is "skewed". I can answer all those questions despite some being quite dated and several not being areas of interest, I would expect people who actively watch the news to be aware of these especially while they were major news stories. Chess has legitimate questions about the validity of the study but I also know that Chess is quite well versed on a number of things. I cannot say the same about you in either respect.Ace6301
 Come on man, the first three paragraphs contradict eachother.  I remember in a statistic test question, they mentioned 1000 sample size, it was considering too low of a number to represent millions.  Its all open ended, so its very subjective.  It was obviously aimed against opposing Fox news opinion.  This is clearly a biased study.  Lets do the math
eight groups divided by 1000, that is 125 people representing millions of people of each group. Â This "study," does not even say how many of each group was involved. Â If you watched Jon Stewart, how the hell woudl you know the answer to any of those questions? Â It is a pseudo study.Â
So either you don't understand statistics or you don't understand English. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with statistics because it can be tricky stuff and a B is an alright grade but certainly nothing to brag about. This is of course assuming you're not just lying and misrepresenting your level of education in an attempt to discredit something that you disagree with. No one would do that though, right?You really think people would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
So either you don't understand statistics or you don't understand English. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with statistics because it can be tricky stuff and a B is an alright grade but certainly nothing to brag about. This is of course assuming you're not just lying and misrepresenting your level of education in an attempt to discredit something that you disagree with. No one would do that though, right?[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="mahlasor"]
 Come on man, the first three paragraphs contradict eachother.  I remember in a statistic test question, they mentioned 1000 sample size, it was considering too low of a number to represent millions.  Its all open ended, so its very subjective.  It was obviously aimed against opposing Fox news opinion.  This is clearly a biased study.  Lets do the math
eight groups divided by 1000, that is 125 people representing millions of people of each group. Â This "study," does not even say how many of each group was involved. Â If you watched Jon Stewart, how the hell woudl you know the answer to any of those questions? Â It is a pseudo study.Â
wis3boi
You really think people would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
I don't believe an individual could be that sad.Well I gues all outlets have their problems from time to time. I've seen some stupid things from Reuters before. Though all I found googling now about reuters was this incident.[QUOTE="whipassmt"]
[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]
No, they aren't. If you want news and not spin, best get it from Reuters or the BBC. MSNBC, CNN and Fox are all about political spin, not facts.
jimkabrhel
Oh please. A religious blog that is critical of new coverage? That's less legitimate as Fox News coverage.
Actually I think Fr. Zuhlsdorf is quite credible on religious issues. His Latin is pretty good as well and he seems to like precise translations. I myself have noticed that a lot of times secular media outlets seem like they say a lot of inaccurate things regarding the Church, or trying to fit things within a certain narrative (for instance exaggeating the differences between Pope Francis and Benedict XVI while not really reporting the major continuities between the two popes).I just saw on World Over Live recently, Raymond Arroyo was analyzing the media "spin" on Pope Francis' recent press interview on the flight back for World Youth Day in Rio.
[QUOTE="BMD004"]Are you aware that he is paralyzed and is in a wheel chair and can't move from the neck down? I don't know if that has anything to do with his face, but it is why he breathes the way he does when he talks and never uses any hand gestures or moves much at all when he speaks. Holy shit I did not know that. Couldn't even tell... Me neither. More props to Charles.[QUOTE="Chutebox"] He is scary looking, but always straight forward. Good guyChutebox
share it please I want to knowBlessedChillall TV and mass media (not just news stations) is 75% propaganda mixed with 25% fact to make their STORY seem credible to whoever is stupid enough to believe that BS they spew. "we now return you to your regularly scheduled PROGRAM(MING)."
90% editorial entertainment that panders to the viewers politics, 10% news.
just like the rest of the "news" outlets.
Riverwolf007
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