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It's ok, but it doeshave a lot of subjective information in it. Certain groups with certain agendas seem to editorialize a lot of the entries.
i love wikipedia, Its an amzing toook for knowledge, almost as good as google imo. Often give both sides of story. And to the ppl saying that "oh anybody can just write whatever they want." I say,"who gets off by falsifying pages regarding M-Theory??"
Agreed. You can have arguments with another user about what's correct. Say you add an entry and someone else thinks it's incorrect. They'll change it. Then you'll change it back. Then they'll change it back again. Eventually you could get a meanish comment from them.It's ok, but it doeshave a lot of subjective information in it. Certain groups with certain agendas seem to editorialize a lot of the entries.
sonicare
They've been going hard on donation requests recently. First, Jimmy Wales had his mug up there, now other members. Nicksonmancant blame 'em, wikipedia doesnt have any ads. I hope it stays that way.
I pretty much agree with this. It's not a bad tool to have around on the net, but I take virtually everything I read on there with a grain of salt.It's ok, but it doeshave a lot of subjective information in it. Certain groups with certain agendas seem to editorialize a lot of the entries.
sonicare
As a side note, too often the report that someone has died, when they in fact are still alive.
[QUOTE="sonicare"]Agreed. You can have arguments with another user about what's correct. Say you add an entry and someone else thinks it's incorrect. They'll change it. Then you'll change it back. Then they'll change it back again. Eventually you could get a meanish comment from them. This. It's ALWAYS them that gets the upper hand. Apparently, the content has to be exactly what the source says. Bullsh*t.It's ok, but it doeshave a lot of subjective information in it. Certain groups with certain agendas seem to editorialize a lot of the entries.
Nicksonman
I have a pet-peeve where it bothers me when I see the terms "African American", "Asian American", etc. being used but not the term "European American" being used for whites. For example, this sentence would bother me: "African Americans suffer much higher poverty rates than whites". Why are we always just "white people"? So, I try changing "whites" to "European Americans", but it gets changed back every time I change it back. Then they say that I'm "vandalizing" (OH, GOD FORBID) and that it has to stay that way because the source says "whites", and that people would confused by the term "European Americans". What a load of horse sh*t. Just because the term "European American" isn't in common use doesn't mean people will be confused by it. White people didn't fall out of the damn sky.
"African, Asian, and European" makes sense. "African, Asian, and white"? That's ridiculous. How bout "black, Asian, and European"? How does that look? Or how bout "African, yellow, and European"? Even more stupid? YES.
F*ck you, Wikipedia. Stay consistent or GTFO.
/rant
Agreed. You can have arguments with another user about what's correct. Say you add an entry and someone else thinks it's incorrect. They'll change it. Then you'll change it back. Then they'll change it back again. Eventually you could get a meanish comment from them. This. It's ALWAYS them that gets the upper hand. Apparently, the content has to be exactly what the source says. Bullsh*t.[QUOTE="Nicksonman"][QUOTE="sonicare"]
It's ok, but it doeshave a lot of subjective information in it. Certain groups with certain agendas seem to editorialize a lot of the entries.
gamerguru100
I have a pet-peeve where it bothers me when I see the terms "African American", "Asian American", etc. being used but not the term "European American" being used for whites. For example, this sentence would bother me: "African Americans suffer much higher poverty rates than whites". Why are we always just "white people"? So, I try changing "whites" to "European Americans", but it gets changed back every time I change it back. Then they say that I'm "vandalizing" (OH, GOD FORBID) and that it has to stay that way because the source says "whites", and that people would confused by the term "European Americans". What a load of horse sh*t. Just because the term "European American" isn't in common use doesn't mean people will be confused by it. White people didn't fall out of the damn sky.
"African, Asian, and European" makes sense. "African, Asian, and white"? That's ridiculous. How bout "black, Asian, and European"? How does that look? Or how bout "African, yellow, and European"? Even more stupid? YES.
F*ck you, Wikipedia. Stay consistent or GTFO.
/rant
That's screwed up. I don't like the term "whites" either. It's racist. But I can give you an even simpler example. The article for Skyward Sword, under Reception, I wrote the paragraph about Gamespot's view on the game. It's pretty much intact, except I had a line in there that said "Gamespot caused controversy among the online video game community with their review of Skyward Sword". The line got removed, followed by a message "Please, no more silly commentary". Controversy caused by Mc Shea's review was a crucial, crucial part of the game's reception. Gamers and game journos around the world came up everywhere in forums, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and magazines with their opinion and rebuttals on the matter, so why is it not worthy of being mentioned in the wiki article?I thinks its an okay place to start research from and then expand on it elsewhere when you have more of a background knowledge on something, however i would never just read wikipedia and assume thats it as far knowledge or information goes like an awful lot of people seem to do.
This. It's ALWAYS them that gets the upper hand. Apparently, the content has to be exactly what the source says. Bullsh*t.[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]
[QUOTE="Nicksonman"] Agreed. You can have arguments with another user about what's correct. Say you add an entry and someone else thinks it's incorrect. They'll change it. Then you'll change it back. Then they'll change it back again. Eventually you could get a meanish comment from them.Nicksonman
I have a pet-peeve where it bothers me when I see the terms "African American", "Asian American", etc. being used but not the term "European American" being used for whites. For example, this sentence would bother me: "African Americans suffer much higher poverty rates than whites". Why are we always just "white people"? So, I try changing "whites" to "European Americans", but it gets changed back every time I change it back. Then they say that I'm "vandalizing" (OH, GOD FORBID) and that it has to stay that way because the source says "whites", and that people would confused by the term "European Americans". What a load of horse sh*t. Just because the term "European American" isn't in common use doesn't mean people will be confused by it. White people didn't fall out of the damn sky.
"African, Asian, and European" makes sense. "African, Asian, and white"? That's ridiculous. How bout "black, Asian, and European"? How does that look? Or how bout "African, yellow, and European"? Even more stupid? YES.
F*ck you, Wikipedia. Stay consistent or GTFO.
/rant
That's screwed up. I don't like the term "whites" either. It's racist. But I can give you an even simpler example. The article for Skyward Sword, under Reception, I wrote the paragraph about Gamespot's view on the game. It's pretty much intact, except I had a line in there that said "Gamespot caused controversy among the online video game community with their review of Skyward Sword". The line got removed, followed by a message "Please, no more silly commentary". Controversy caused by Mc Shea's review was a crucial, crucial part of the game's reception. Gamers and game journos around the world came up everywhere in forums, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and magazines with their opinion and rebuttals on the matter, so why is it not worthy of being mentioned in the wiki article? It's full of people with agendas. I think I've heard people say it has a liberal bias.It's a site necessary for school, although I do feel like the editors are getting lazier. Sometimes i'll be looking and infomration from what happened in 2010 and 2011 are a lot lighter than 07, 08, and 09.
I don't use it to post anything but I use it quite a bit for looking things up. If I google something and there's a wiki on wikipedia, I always usually go there first as I trust what's on there since b.s. will just get taken down.
This. check out the discussions tab sometimes you'll see the different bias groups fighting. To me, Wiipedia is a great source for quick references. But if you want to really get into and understand a topic, go get an actual book on it. Preferably one that's written by a professor on the topic, or if it has been peer reviewed.It's ok, but it doeshave a lot of subjective information in it. Certain groups with certain agendas seem to editorialize a lot of the entries.
sonicare
The first time I ever heard of Wikipedia I was in a University lecture being told how it was a bunch of un-citedrandomness and if any of us ever dreamed of citing it as a source in our papers we would get an automatic fail.
Consequently I always take all Wiki pages with a pinch of salt, try and verify 'facts' from there before I use them, and besides I've a librarian password that lets me use the Encyclopedia Britannica complete e-resources for free so I tend to just use that anyway.
[QUOTE="Nicksonman"]That's screwed up. I don't like the term "whites" either. It's racist. But I can give you an even simpler example. The article for Skyward Sword, under Reception, I wrote the paragraph about Gamespot's view on the game. It's pretty much intact, except I had a line in there that said "Gamespot caused controversy among the online video game community with their review of Skyward Sword". The line got removed, followed by a message "Please, no more silly commentary". Controversy caused by Mc Shea's review was a crucial, crucial part of the game's reception. Gamers and game journos around the world came up everywhere in forums, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and magazines with their opinion and rebuttals on the matter, so why is it not worthy of being mentioned in the wiki article? It's full of people with agendas. I think I've heard people say it has a liberal bias.[QUOTE="gamerguru100"] This. It's ALWAYS them that gets the upper hand. Apparently, the content has to be exactly what the source says. Bullsh*t.
I have a pet-peeve where it bothers me when I see the terms "African American", "Asian American", etc. being used but not the term "European American" being used for whites. For example, this sentence would bother me: "African Americans suffer much higher poverty rates than whites". Why are we always just "white people"? So, I try changing "whites" to "European Americans", but it gets changed back every time I change it back. Then they say that I'm "vandalizing" (OH, GOD FORBID) and that it has to stay that way because the source says "whites", and that people would confused by the term "European Americans". What a load of horse sh*t. Just because the term "European American" isn't in common use doesn't mean people will be confused by it. White people didn't fall out of the damn sky.
"African, Asian, and European" makes sense. "African, Asian, and white"? That's ridiculous. How bout "black, Asian, and European"? How does that look? Or how bout "African, yellow, and European"? Even more stupid? YES.
F*ck you, Wikipedia. Stay consistent or GTFO.
/rant
gamerguru100
Calling someone white that is white is NOT racist at all. Just like calling someone that's "African American" black is not racist. African American means that someone was born in Africa and moved here and is now a citizen of the U.S. If you're white or black and were born in the U.S., you're just white or black.
People should quit trying to make something racist that isn't and get off the p.c. soapbox. Anytime you add the term 'American after something it means they were born someplace else, like Mexican American would mean a Mexican (Yes, it's ok to say their country of origin) that came and is now a citizen.
I use the terms Hispanic and Asian only as a catch all because there are so many countries within those regions if I don't know someone's country background, but the terms black and white have been used just fine for quite some time. Whites as racist. lol
I like wikipedia just to get a general idea on some things, like book or movie summaries. It helps me with essays greatly.
I find it extremely helpful in finding different statistics, rankings, cross comparison between countries in laws, economy and among other things.
It's so helpful for biology too, a genus and a specie name is all I need to type into google, wikipedia almost always pops up, and I find it easy to navigate and generally well organized. It's the quickest way to go from not knowing anything, to get a general picture of something, this apply to just about any subject.
So I'm very thankful that it exist, almost as much as I'm thankful that google exists.
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