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#51 HavocV3
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i hate how they complain about needing money yet they could be a multi billion dollar company if they just put a few ads on the side of each article..mingmao3046

and then you'd end up complaining about the ads:?

I think the site is a fine resource. I've never contributed to the articles or edited anything, so I have no clue about all that controversy:P

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#52 raven_squad
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I think it's unreliability is dramatically overstated, honestly. Certain subjects are prone to being messed with, but generally speaking, it's extremely useful.
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#53 HavocV3
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I think it's unreliability is dramatically overstated, honestly. Certain subjects are prone to being messed with, but generally speaking, it's extremely useful. raven_squad

I agree.

we had a Social Studies teacher who FORBID us to use it. but I remember using it for my slideshow presentation anyways. got an A-, if I'm remembering correctly:P

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#54 branketra
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I hate to bust your bubble, but I have news that Wikipedia will shut down all day tomorrow in protest of SOPA. Jimmy Wales said so himself.angeldeb82
Interesting.
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#55 nicksonman
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[QUOTE="gamerguru100"][QUOTE="Nicksonman"] That's screwed up. I don't like the term "whites" either. It's racist. But I can give you an even simpler example. The article for Skyward Sword, under Reception, I wrote the paragraph about Gamespot's view on the game. It's pretty much intact, except I had a line in there that said "Gamespot caused controversy among the online video game community with their review of Skyward Sword". The line got removed, followed by a message "Please, no more silly commentary". Controversy caused by Mc Shea's review was a crucial, crucial part of the game's reception. Gamers and game journos around the world came up everywhere in forums, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and magazines with their opinion and rebuttals on the matter, so why is it not worthy of being mentioned in the wiki article?

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It's full of people with agendas. I think I've heard people say it has a liberal bias.

Calling someone white that is white is NOT racist at all. Just like calling someone that's "African American" black is not racist. African American means that someone was born in Africa and moved here and is now a citizen of the U.S. If you're white or black and were born in the U.S., you're just white or black.

People should quit trying to make something racist that isn't and get off the p.c. soapbox. Anytime you add the term 'American after something it means they were born someplace else, like Mexican American would mean a Mexican (Yes, it's ok to say their country of origin) that came and is now a citizen.

I use the terms Hispanic and Asian only as a catch all because there are so many countries within those regions if I don't know someone's country background, but the terms black and white have been used just fine for quite some time. Whites as racist. lol

It's racist when you call one group African Americans and the other group whites. Just as if you called one group Euro Americans and the other group blacks. Either blacks/whites or African Americans/Euro Americans. That's fair. The racism isn't in the words themselves, but in the lack of consistency of using a nationality term for one group, and a skin colour term for the other. My post didn't make that clear, but only because it wasn't the main topic of my post. It was more about the Skyward Sword thing.

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#56 Jinroh_basic
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one of the greatest things on internet. no matter what you think of it, Wikipedia has quietly transformed the way knowledge is distributed and gained - mostly for the better, alot better. it has issues of credibility, sure, but those are far outweighted by its benefits.

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#58 Victorious_Fize
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I enjoy it for media related stuff. Other than that it seems to get a bit iffy.aaronmullan
This. It's still informative on other things, but I take those with a grain of salt.
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#59 nicksonman
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Wikipedia isn't as objective as a lot of people think. They refer to Al Qaeda as a terrorist organisation. But if you ask Al Qaeda, they won't say they're terrorists, they'll say they're freedom fighters.
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#60 Meinhard1
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Well, it's better than Conservapedia http://conservapedia.com/Main_Page
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#61 Victorious_Fize
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Well, it's better than Conservapedia http://conservapedia.com/Main_PageMeinhard1
I love that site. :lol:
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#62 Jinroh_basic
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Wikipedia isn't as objective as a lot of people think. They refer to Al Qaeda as a terrorist organisation. But if you ask Al Qaeda, they won't say they're terrorists, they'll say they're freedom fighters.Nicksonman

like EVERYTHING on the internet, discretion and judgement is necessary when you use Wiki. but that doesn't change the fact that the portal has immensely lower the difficulty to access information on virtually all major subjects and topics. with every bit of biased or false information on Wiki, there is always a ton more that is factual, updated and readily usable.

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#63 Meinhard1
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Wikipedia isn't as objective as a lot of people think. They refer to Al Qaeda as a terrorist organisation. But if you ask Al Qaeda, they won't say they're terrorists, they'll say they're freedom fighters.Nicksonman
Props for posting such a broad thought and acknowledging the existence different perspectives (kind of rare on this site); but I think that Al Qaeda's tactics fit terrorism to the T. Even someone who agrees with their motives/goals should be able to acknowledge that the organization employs lots of terror tactics.
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#64 Meinhard1
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[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]Well, it's better than Conservapedia http://conservapedia.com/Main_PageVictorious_Fize
I love that site. :lol:

Yeah, it's certainly fun to look things up on it from time to time :P
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#65 Victorious_Fize
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[QUOTE="Nicksonman"]Wikipedia isn't as objective as a lot of people think. They refer to Al Qaeda as a terrorist organisation. But if you ask Al Qaeda, they won't say they're terrorists, they'll say they're freedom fighters.Meinhard1
Props for posting such a broad thought and acknowledging the existence different perspectives (kind of rare on this site); but I think that Al Qaeda's tactics fit terrorism to the T. Even someone who agrees with their motives/goals should be able to acknowledge that the organization employs lots of terror tactics.

Actually, a lot of people confuse Al Qaeda to thinking they're "freedom fighters", hell, even Al Qaeda doesn't believe that. They're terrorists with a known agenda of deterring the Western influence that was extremely rabid in the 8-90's. They just appeal to Jihad and other "struggling" sentiments to mostly cause terror mixed with true Jihad (example: the Soviet invasion against Afghanistan).
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#66 Victorious_Fize
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Meinhard1"]Well, it's better than Conservapedia http://conservapedia.com/Main_PageMeinhard1
I love that site. :lol:

Yeah, it's certainly fun to look things up on it from time to time :P

Best thing in my free time. "hmm, so what should I type today... liberal, or Obama?" Too much time can only make you infuriated IMO.
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#67 yomanjdf
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best site.ever
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#68 deactivated-5d25ae64ef918
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It's good. But not as good as Encyclopedia Dramatica. Lawl.
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#69 sonofsmeagle
Member since 2010 • 4317 Posts

you can tell with alot of the theorys about recent conspiracys the wikipedia editor was obviously very bias against them

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#70 gamerguru100
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[QUOTE="gamerguru100"][QUOTE="Nicksonman"] That's screwed up. I don't like the term "whites" either. It's racist. But I can give you an even simpler example. The article for Skyward Sword, under Reception, I wrote the paragraph about Gamespot's view on the game. It's pretty much intact, except I had a line in there that said "Gamespot caused controversy among the online video game community with their review of Skyward Sword". The line got removed, followed by a message "Please, no more silly commentary". Controversy caused by Mc Shea's review was a crucial, crucial part of the game's reception. Gamers and game journos around the world came up everywhere in forums, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and magazines with their opinion and rebuttals on the matter, so why is it not worthy of being mentioned in the wiki article?

Sunfyre7896

It's full of people with agendas. I think I've heard people say it has a liberal bias.

Calling someone white that is white is NOT racist at all. Just like calling someone that's "African American" black is not racist. African American means that someone was born in Africa and moved here and is now a citizen of the U.S. If you're white or black and were born in the U.S., you're just white or black.

People should quit trying to make something racist that isn't and get off the p.c. soapbox. Anytime you add the term 'American after something it means they were born someplace else, like Mexican American would mean a Mexican (Yes, it's ok to say their country of origin) that came and is now a citizen.

I use the terms Hispanic and Asian only as a catch all because there are so many countries within those regions if I don't know someone's country background, but the terms black and white have been used just fine for quite some time. Whites as racist. lol

Why are you quoting me? I'm not the one who said "whites" was racist. I said I don't like the term "whites" when it's used alongside a term like "Asian American". I would rather like it if it was just white, black, Asian, Hispanic, etc. all the time, but it isn't. People will be saying, "African Americans", "Asian Americans", "Mexican Americans, and then just say "white people". Sorry, it's just something that bothers me every time I see it. European Americans have a heritage too. Like I said, white people didn't fall out of the sky. We come from somewhere, and I wish people would do that more often like they do with nonwhites. That is, say, "European American" if you're going to mention whites while talking about African Americans, race (in the U.S.) in general, etc.
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#71 gamerguru100
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[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"] It's full of people with agendas. I think I've heard people say it has a liberal bias.Nicksonman

Calling someone white that is white is NOT racist at all. Just like calling someone that's "African American" black is not racist. African American means that someone was born in Africa and moved here and is now a citizen of the U.S. If you're white or black and were born in the U.S., you're just white or black.

People should quit trying to make something racist that isn't and get off the p.c. soapbox. Anytime you add the term 'American after something it means they were born someplace else, like Mexican American would mean a Mexican (Yes, it's ok to say their country of origin) that came and is now a citizen.

I use the terms Hispanic and Asian only as a catch all because there are so many countries within those regions if I don't know someone's country background, but the terms black and white have been used just fine for quite some time. Whites as racist. lol

It's racist when you call one group African Americans and the other group whites. Just as if you called one group Euro Americans and the other group blacks. Either blacks/whites or African Americans/Euro Americans. That's fair. The racism isn't in the words themselves, but in the lack of consistency of using a nationality term for one group, and a skin colour term for the other. My post didn't make that clear, but only because it wasn't the main topic of my post. It was more about the Skyward Sword thing.

This is exactly what I'm getting at. I like it when the terms are consistent. Whether it's racist of not is up to the reader. The words "racism" and "racist" have lost much of their meaning because of their overuse. But I agree with you nonetheless that it's fair if the terms are used consistently.
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#73 fooZar777
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To me, it's the most important website on the internet.

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#74 nicksonman
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[QUOTE="Nicksonman"]Wikipedia isn't as objective as a lot of people think. They refer to Al Qaeda as a terrorist organisation. But if you ask Al Qaeda, they won't say they're terrorists, they'll say they're freedom fighters.Meinhard1
Props for posting such a broad thought and acknowledging the existence different perspectives (kind of rare on this site); but I think that Al Qaeda's tactics fit terrorism to the T. Even someone who agrees with their motives/goals should be able to acknowledge that the organization employs lots of terror tactics.

Al Qaeda calls the US government terrorists.
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#75 rockguy92
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Love it.
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#76 certifieddata
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Hitting random page is a good way of spending bored evenings.

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#77 nicksonman
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There's a Wikipedia game I sometimes play. Start with this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_fox then think of a random, unrelated article, say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim and try to get to that article using only links, starting with one of the links on the article for the Arctic Fox. The person who can do it using the least amount of links wins.
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#78 Gamingclone
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Its nice, last year I went to some page on Wikipedia about Kirby (the video game character) and I changed the spelling of Kirby to Cirby :P

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#79 MathMattS
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I like Wikipedia alot and use it for browsing and looking things up, but I don't consider it a scholarly resource.

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#80 muller39
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I like it. Getting the general information about the subject your researching on before going to the library and taking out books and obtaining articles and what not is a good thing to have.