Your View on Watches?

I own about $1000 worth of watches (though I did not pay all that for them, one was from Marlboro years ago and it isn't made any more). :( I use them to tell the time and have one watch specifically for work and is one of 2 digital watches I own (Timex and a Casio G-Shock) and will start using the other for work too. In my line of work, we have to use the stop watch function to time xray shots when xraying welds and such. I also have to be able to time penetrant inspections. Most phones do not have stop watches and most of the places I go do not allow cameras and having a phone with a camera is not allowed (there are ways to get around it, but ya have to be careful).

The rest of my watches are all analog and have Swiss movements.

[QUOTE="ProjectClash"]

Well the reason i pointed it out as an opinion is because you're infuriated over the fact that i don't agree with you which is shown in the way in which you choose to reply to my posts, what i'm saying isn't fact its an opinion.

Palantas

You may find people are annoyed when someone comes into their friendly discussion about hobbies and tells all involved that they're insane.

I'm not necessarily saying people are insane but i dislike people who dress in a pretentious manner, and to be honest i don't think i've ever met somebody who dresses the way they do because they believe its a form of art.

ProjectClash

So are most of the people in this thread insane or not? Define "dress in a pretentious manner." And again, I want to point out this is coming from someone who just told a bunch of strangers they're insane. Speaking of that, how did you determine that the people you've met, and the people in this thread, are or are not wearing what they wear because they think of it as art? "Art" is anything in which people involve themselves because it's pleasing to the senses, regardless of practicality, which is what you're condemning. This includes fancy watches, architecture, all fine art, videogames, and multi-colored clothing.

And you didn't answer my questions:

Tell me, what did I miss about your theory? People who engage in activities for artistic rather than practical purposes are insane. Is there any more to it than that? Or does this only apply to watches? If so, explain why.

I

Well i think you have anger issues if you get mad over people calling you "insane", i've been called worst and haven't gone into a fit of rage.

People do dress in a pretentious manner and think they are more significant than others around them for example, i went to a posh college, and people use to make fun of the way i dressed because i didn't meet their standards.

I assumed that people in this thread don't wear their clothes for art because it was never mentioned, so perhaps i'm at fault there, but from life experience i can tell you that people don't wear clothes because they're an art form, perhaps some do but the majority don't, not where i'm from.

I'm not saying everybody who engages in activities for artistic purposes are insane, but as i said before, not everybody wears clothes for that purpose, you assume that the whole population does when that quite clearly is not the case.

i just wear mine to tell time...as long as i like the way it looks i'm happy..

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="xaos"]

Yup, I wear it every day

Palantas

Haha ok.

I just associate this type of watches with ooooooold people, because I have only seen old people use those. :P

Must be really old people. Wrist-watches have been around since World War I. I associate pocket watches with people just wanting to do something a little different. Is there a functional reason for your choice of a pocket watch, xaos, or does it appeal to you aesthetically?

[QUOTE="Palantas"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Haha ok.

I just associate this type of watches with ooooooold people, because I have only seen old people use those. :P

xaos

Must be really old people. Wrist-watches have been around since World War I. I associate pocket watches with people just wanting to do something a little different. Is there a functional reason for your choice of a pocket watch, xaos, or does it appeal to you aesthetically?

The metalic ones grip on my hair and the plastic/leather ones make the area sweat.

Well i think you have anger issues if you get mad over people calling you "insane", i've been called worst and haven't gone into a fit of rage.

ProjectClash

You're calling people pretentious when you've just made a psychological diagnosis of someone over the Internet, based on maybe a page of text. So:

1. Prove that I've gone into a "fit of rage."
2. State your evidence and reasoning that I have anger issues.
3. Provide your background and experience. I want to know your authority to determine these things based on so little information.

People do dress in a pretentious manner and think they are more significant than others around them for example, i went to a posh college, and people use to make fun of the way i dressed because i didn't meet their standards.

ProjectClash

You determined that people were being pretentious by the way they spoke to you, then? Identify the persons in this thread who criticized you for not meeting their standards. I haven't gone through this thread in depth, but I'm pretty sure the only person who's criticized anyone for not meeting their standards of dress is...you.

I assumed that people in this thread don't wear their clothes for art because it was never mentioned, so perhaps i'm at fault there, but from life experience i can tell you that people don't wear clothes because they're an art form, perhaps some do but the majority don't, not where i'm from.

I'm not saying everybody who engages in activities for artistic purposes are insane, but as i said before, not everybody wears clothes for that purpose, you assume that the whole population does when that quite clearly is not the case.

ProjectClash

I already said this: Art is anything people create or enjoy that appeals to the senses. When people get dressed up to go out on the weekend, they're engaging in artistic behavior, whether they think of it that way or not. You've launched a carte blanche attack against all art, that is, anything that is not functional. I've given several examples.

I prefer the Timex / Longs brands. They are more dependable. I havea Timex now with large numerals that I have used going on 5 years now where as my most expensive watch crapped out after about half a year. It would be less expensive to buy another one than to have it repaired and the old timex was still running so I am wearing it again.

For me it's an aid. I prefer something that looks sleek and is durable, but I'm not gonna pay any serious money for a watch because... it's a watch. I don't want some tacky looking thing, but it doesn't haven't to cost anymore than a tacky watch to look good.

I haven't had a watch for years because I just put off buying a new one after I broke the last one. Maybe I'll get another eventually, it's not a priority.

[QUOTE="ProjectClash"]

Well i think you have anger issues if you get mad over people calling you "insane", i've been called worst and haven't gone into a fit of rage.

Palantas

You're calling people pretentious when you've just made a psychological diagnosis of someone over the Internet, based on maybe a page of text. So:

1. Prove that I've gone into a "fit of rage."
2. State your evidence and reasoning that I have anger issues.
3. Provide your background and experience. I want to know your authority to determine these things based on so little information.

People do dress in a pretentious manner and think they are more significant than others around them for example, i went to a posh college, and people use to make fun of the way i dressed because i didn't meet their standards.

ProjectClash

You determined that people were being pretentious by the way they spoke to you, then? Identify the persons in this thread who criticized you for not meeting their standards. I haven't gone through this thread in depth, but I'm pretty sure the only person who's criticized anyone for not meeting their standards of dress is...you.

I assumed that people in this thread don't wear their clothes for art because it was never mentioned, so perhaps i'm at fault there, but from life experience i can tell you that people don't wear clothes because they're an art form, perhaps some do but the majority don't, not where i'm from.

I'm not saying everybody who engages in activities for artistic purposes are insane, but as i said before, not everybody wears clothes for that purpose, you assume that the whole population does when that quite clearly is not the case.

ProjectClash

I already said this: Art is anything people create or enjoy that appeals to the senses. When people get dressed up to go out on the weekend, they're engaging in artistic behavior, whether they think of it that way or not. You've launched a carte blanche attack against all art, that is, anything that is not functional. I've given several examples.

I'm not an expert but i based my comment about you having anger issues on the way you talked to me earlier in which you told me i shouldn't be on GameSpot and that i should live in a cube, i'm not going to find the post you can do that yourself.

I never said that anybody on GameSpot was insulting the way i dressed, although you're the only person who did that by saying i wear dark colours and a jump suit.

The reason i made my original comment is because i believe people who wear accessories or clothes for the purpose or looking cool or "swag", are idiots and i stand by it.

I wasn't aware that people wear clothes for purposes such as art, as i've never met one of these people, so perhaps i jump to conclusions without knowing the ful picture.

honestly I hate having something on my wrist all day. Now that cell phones are normal for most everyone to have nobody looks down on me for not wearing a watch.

OT,

Another random thread. What is your view on watches? Do you treat is as a fashion statement or a genuine tool to tell the time? Do you care about the brand or will any watch that looks ok, be fine for you?

For me, I love watches and treat them as 70% fashion, 30% tool.

JasonDarksavior

My view on watches? They're tools for telling what time it is. Disposable tools. My parents got me expensive and heavy alloy/crystal watches. Never cared for them. I prefer a cheap ol $25 plastic Casio.

I dont care what brand a watch is, and i do use it to tell time more than a phone, i think i look better with a watch and i have a tan all around except for where i wear the watch.

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]

OT,

Another random thread. What is your view on watches? Do you treat is as a fashion statement or a genuine tool to tell the time? Do you care about the brand or will any watch that looks ok, be fine for you?

For me, I love watches and treat them as 70% fashion, 30% tool.

My view on watches? They're tools for telling what time it is. Disposable tools. My parents got me expensive and heavy alloy/crystal watches. Never cared for them. I prefer a cheap ol $25 plastic Casio.

I'm not an expert but i based my comment about you having anger issues on the way you talked to me earlier in which you told me i shouldn't be on GameSpot and that i should live in a cube, i'm not going to find the post you can do that yourself.

ProjectClash

That's it? I have anger issues because of that? How does that indicate that someone has anger issues? I was taking your anti-art comments and extrapolating what a life lived by your principles would be like. GameSpot is about videogames. Videogames are a form of art; they appeal to the senses (and the mind), but they serve no practical function. You're on a website that endorses an activity contrary to your life philosophy. When then are you here?

Are you going to back up the "fit of rage" comment?

I never said that anybody on GameSpot was insulting the way i dressed, although you're the only person who did that by saying i wear dark colours and a jump suit.

ProjectClash

So why then did you assume that most everyone in this thread was worthy of your contempt, if you have no actual evidence that anyone here meets your defintion of "pretentious"? And again, with the "grey jumpsuit" comment, I was attempting to theorize how a person would dress who did so solely for practical reasons. It's difficult to imagine.

The reason i made my original comment is because i believe people who wear accessories or clothes for the purpose or looking cool or "swag", are idiots and i stand by it. I wasn't aware that people wear clothes for purposes such as art, as i've never met one of these people, so perhaps i jump to conclusions without knowing the ful picture.

ProjectClash

All people who wear clothing for ornamental purposes are behaving artistically. All cultures across all of history have done this (as far as I know). Most everyone today does this. With the exception of a few eccentrics, you are condemning the entire human race, through all of time.

Cell phones have pretty much made watches obsolete.Ken_Masterz

This has been addressed in the thread, by myself and another person. Not all occupations support using a cellphone to tell the time.

[QUOTE="Ken_Masterz"]Cell phones have pretty much made watches obsolete.Palantas

This has been addressed in the thread, by myself and another person. Not all occupations support using a cellphone to tell the time.

such as?

also even if they don't there are usually clocks on the wall and clocks on computer screens.

[QUOTE="Ken_Masterz"]Cell phones have pretty much made watches obsolete.Palantas

This has been addressed in the thread, by myself and another person. Not all occupations support using a cellphone to tell the time.

Remember when everyone wore their watches backwards? I still do it, mainly because I find it easier to turn my wrist outwards instead of inwards to glance at the time. Is this big time 90's, or what? I guess I'm an old fogey.

[QUOTE="Palantas"]

[QUOTE="Ken_Masterz"]Cell phones have pretty much made watches obsolete.Ken_Masterz

This has been addressed in the thread, by myself and another person. Not all occupations support using a cellphone to tell the time.

Watches are not obsolete. I can check the time in a split second with my watch whereas with a phone I have to fish it out of my pocket, so there's the whole convenience aspect. And as someone who dives, I'm able to take my watch in the water to 100 M. There'll always be situations that are better suited to watches, they will never truly be obsolete.

I honestly think you need to lighten up you're taking things far too literal, you admitted to being annoyed when i apparently called you "insane" which is a strange reason to get annoyed(which i never did, i believe i used the word tool) perhaps illiterate would have been the correct word to use.

I don't think its difficult to imagine somebody dressing for practical reasons, i only take what i need given the place i'm going/weather, why is that hard for you to understand?

Yes i do believe people who wear clothes for the very purpose of looking cool are idiots, regardless of the consequences thats just what i believe and i'm not going to change that for you or anybody else, clothes are a material possession, they have no real significance to me.

Watches are not obsolete. I can check the time in a split second with my watch whereas with a phone I have to fish it out of my pocket, so there's the whole convenience aspect. And as someone who dives, I'm able to take my watch in the water to 100 M. There'll always be situations that are better suited to watches, they will never truly be obsolete.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]

OT,

Another random thread. What is your view on watches? Do you treat is as a fashion statement or a genuine tool to tell the time? Do you care about the brand or will any watch that looks ok, be fine for you?

For me, I love watches and treat them as 70% fashion, 30% tool.

rockguy92

My view on watches? They're tools for telling what time it is. Disposable tools. My parents got me expensive and heavy alloy/crystal watches. Never cared for them. I prefer a cheap ol $25 plastic Casio.

$9k for a watch? Geez. Another $1k and I can buy gold instead. But, if that's what they like, oh well. I'm sure that watch will become a family heirloom someday. If I had a $9k watch, I'd take it with me to my grave when my time is up.:lol:

[QUOTE="Palantas"]

[QUOTE="Ken_Masterz"]Cell phones have pretty much made watches obsolete.Serraph105

This has been addressed in the thread, by myself and another person. Not all occupations support using a cellphone to tell the time.

such as?

also even if they don't there are usually clocks on the wall and clocks on computer screens.

Unless your cell phone is intristically safe, you cannot have it on outside of buildings at chemical plants or oil refineries, especially where hydrogen sulfide is generated (besides being poisonous, is also flammable), or chemicals such as paraxylene is used (clear plastic PET bottles are made with it). Since many cell phones are not intristically safe and the average consumer cannot afford such a phone, you are not allowed to use your phone anywhere. Other places disallow cameras of any sort due to wanting to keep propriety information within their own fences.

True, there are clocks and computers in buildings, but when you are in a chemicalbuilding, there are no offices, just tanks, pipes, valves and other necessary items that are intristically safe for use in such places. There are no clocks on the wall.

[QUOTE="I"]

Not all occupations support using a cellphone to tell the time.

Serraph105

such as?

The military.

doesn't make it any less true. Sorry to inform you for 90% of the population watches are obsolete.

Ken_Masterz

You said "Watches are obsolete" in your original statement, which is logically false. You made no qualifier regarding the various occupations where they obviously aren't obsolete. So now you've decided that watches are 90% obsolete. How did you determine this? Can I see your data? Forgive me if I don't just take your word for it, since you clearly were just making stuff up with your original statement.

You said "Watches are obsolete" in your original statement, which is logically false. You made no qualifier regarding the various occupations where they obviously aren't obsolete. So now you've decided that watches are 90% obsolete. How did you determine this? Can I see your data? Forgive me if I don't just take your word for it, since you clearly were just making stuff up with your original statement.

I honestly think you need to lighten up you're taking things far too literal, you admitted to being annoyed when i apparently called you "insane" which is a strange reason to get annoyed(which i never did, i believe i used the word tool) perhaps illiterate would have been the correct word to use.

ProjectClash

Emphasis mine. Let's see here:

To wear a watch for a reason other than to tell the time is pure insanity, thats my opinion if you don't like it then tough...

ProjectClash

Emphasis mine. You know, if you're going to lie about what you claimed in an argument, you probably shouldn't do it when there's a written record of everything you've said.

I don't think its difficult to imagine somebody dressing for practical reasons, i only take what i need given the place i'm going/weather, why is that hard for you to understand?

ProjectClash

No human society has ever done this. I have never seen a person who divorced themselves completely from art. Sure, there are people who don't care how they dress, but they express themselves in other ways (the music they listen to or create, the c|assic car they're restoring, how they tend their lawn; the examples are endless). If you only believe it is foolish to behave artistically when dressing, but not in other ways, then explain why.

Yes i do believe people who wear clothes for the very purpose of looking cool are idiots, regardless of the consequences thats just what i believe and i'm not going to change that for you or anybody else, clothes are a material possession, they have no real significance to me.

ProjectClash

Emphasis added again. Earlier you said I'm taking things too literally. Please identity the figurative language in the above statement that I'm misinterpreting.

Your MO here seems to be to make wild assumptions and statements with broad implications, then refuse to back them up, or even attempt to back them up. Or you offer rebuttals like "It's my opinion," which isn't really an rebuttal. I'm not arguing your right to your opinion. I'm arguingthat your opinion doesn't make sense, whichcontrasts sharply with your view that most of the human popution are idiots.

I'll start adding a list of the various challenges you've just ignored to the end of my posts:

I have anger issues because of that? How does that indicate that someone has anger issues?

I

Videogames are a form of art; they appeal to the senses (and the mind), but they serve no practical function. You're on a website that endorses an activity contrary to your life philosophy. Why thenare you here?

I

Are you going to back up the "fit of rage" comment?

I

Well it depends how you want to interpret the sentence, since we're being so technical i don't mention once in the sentence the individual is insane, i meant the act was insane.

However in this sentence "The purpose of a watch is to tell the time, if you use it for anything else such as "fashion" then you're a tool." i use the word "you're" which implies that the individual is a tool.

My opinions are backed up by my experiences, i don't think given the context there is any way of backing up my claims, as i've said before its not based on facts but purely what i've experienced.

You admitted to being annoyed and the reason i said you had anger issues is because you're getting angry over such trivial things.

Games and this website are a source of entertainment, however clothes are not regardless of how they look.

Watches, serious business. 1. If you're going to quote me, quote me correctly. 2. You'll have to forgive me for my unscientifically posted thoughts. But my poll consists of opening my eyes and looking around with the complete lack of people that wear them. You're right it may not be 90% exactly, I'll have to beg your forgiveness and thank you for your enlightenment in all things watch related.

Ken_Masterz

Making simple logical statements has nothing to do with watches. "All" and "90%" are not the same thing, and I'm not sure why this needs to be pointed out to someone. Of course, with the 90% thing, you basically admitted to just making stuff up. A cursory examination of this thread shows far more than 10%. Obviously this thread isn't scientific, but it's a far better poll than your taking three seconds to think about seeing a complete lack of something your'e not interested in anyway.

[QUOTE="Ken_Masterz"]

Watches, serious business. 1. If you're going to quote me, quote me correctly. 2. You'll have to forgive me for my unscientifically posted thoughts. But my poll consists of opening my eyes and looking around with the complete lack of people that wear them. You're right it may not be 90% exactly, I'll have to beg your forgiveness and thank you for your enlightenment in all things watch related.

Palantas

Making simple logical statements has nothing to do with watches. "All" and "90%" are not the same thing, and I'm not sure why this needs to be pointed out to someone. Of course, with the 90% thing, you basically admitted to just making stuff up. A cursory examination of this thread shows far more than 10%. Obviously this thread isn't scientific, but it's a far better poll than your taking three seconds to think about seeing a complete lack of something your'e not interested in anyway.

I don't believe that everybody on GameSpot deals in technicalities, i admit the claim was far fetched however i believe an element of sarcasm was involved.

Making simple logical statements has nothing to do with watches. "All" and "90%" are not the same thing, and I'm not sure why this needs to be pointed out to someone. Of course, with the 90% thing, you basically admitted to just making stuff up. A cursory examination of this thread shows far more than 10%. Obviously this thread isn't scientific, but it's a far better poll than your taking three seconds to think about seeing a complete lack of something your'e not interested in anyway.

Palantas

My opinions are backed up by my experiences, i don't think given the context there is any way of backing up my claims, as i've said before its not based on facts but purely what i've experienced.

ProjectClash

Apparently your experiences extend to:

• Critizing people who havedone nothingto you, since entirelydifferent people criticized you in the past
• Providing psychological diagnosis based on one page of written text
• Condemning humans in all cultures as "idiots"

You admitted to being annoyed and the reason i said you had anger issues is because you're getting angry over such trivial things.

ProjectClash

So to you, "annoyed," "angry," and apparently "fit of rage" are the same thing, then?

Games and this website are a source of entertainment, however clothes are not regardless of how they look

ProjectClash

All I have to do to prove this wrong is simply say that clothes are a source of entertainment to me. I can say that my watch, while practical, is also something that I enjoy, something that entertains me. Once again, videogames, clothes, and a host of other things are all art. They all entertain some people. Because something does not entertain you does not mean others don't enjoy it. I can only imagine you refuse to recognize this so that you can continue performing the mental gymnastics required to call strangers insane-acting tool idiots.

[quote="ProjectClash"]

Yes i do believe people who wear clothes for the very purpose of looking cool are idiots...

I

Earlier you said I'm taking things too literally. Please identity the figurative language in the above statement that I'm misinterpreting.

I don't believe that everybody on GameSpot deals in technicalities, i admit the claim was far fetched however i believe an element of sarcasm was involved.

ProjectClash

If he was being sarcastic, he could just say so and dispell this whole thing.

way to ignore the fact that you misquoted me and in effect altered my meaning. For someone who just argues on samantics you certainly fail at upholding any real standards.Your "far better poll" is no better than mine, hate to inform you of that fact.

Ken_Masterz

Yeah, that's twice you've complained about that. Would you care to actually point out where you were misquoted? And I believe it is, since this thread represents the opinions and experiences of many different people, while yours obviously represents just you.

Enjoy your watch. I'm sure it means a lot to you. Just know that you're in the small minority of people who actually still bothers to wear them. Deal.

Ken_Masterz

Enjoy your bare wrist. I'm sure it means a lot to you. Just know that you're in the small minority of people who don't bother to wear a watch. Deal.

See, that doesn't really take any thought, does it?

EDIT:

I went back and read this stuff carefully. Your "pretty much" bit is sufficiently vague that you could have meant just about anything, giving you considerable latitude to make stuff up. So yes, I did misquote you. I apologize.

[QUOTE="Jumbo120788"][QUOTE="ProjectClash"]

The purpose of a watch is to tell the time, if you use it for anything else such as "fashion" then you're a tool.

ProjectClash

Well using a hat to block the sun isn't wearing it for fashion is it? its a practical use, you benefit from wearing it hence the sun isn't in your eyes.

Same as the watch, you benefit from wearing it because you know the time.

Using said items as fashion statements is impractical because you're not using them for their intended purpose and you don't benefit from their use.

Enjoy your bare wrist. I'm sure it means a lot to you. Just know that you're in the small minority of people who don't bother to wear a watch. Deal.

See, that doesn't really take any thought, does it?

EDIT:

I went back and read this stuff carefully. Your "pretty much" bit is sufficiently vague that you could have meant just about anything, giving you considerable latitude to make stuff up. So yes, I did misquote you. I apologize.

Ken_Masterz

Dear God, give it a rest. I don't give a rat's ass if you don't wear a watch. If you want to believe that watches are obsolete because people in suburbia carry around cellphones, that's your business. Honestly, I think the (made up figure here) statistic is pretty generous. If anything, I bet that fewer than (made up figure here) never wear a watch. If it means that much to you to believe that your life experience represents the world, go nuts. Have a ball. That being said, I'll still be posting here, because there's this other guy who thinks pretty much everyone is an idiot. Frankly, the only reason I kept posting with you, is I've never seen anyone believe their daily routine is a better way to determine a statistic than the combined opinions of many people. At least, not anyone beyond primary school.

EDIT: :roll:

When i said you were taking things too literal i meant when i called you angry/in a fit of rage, obviously sarcasm is unknown to you as you need evidence for everything people type no matter how simple the claim may be, which i noticed when you replied to Ken_Masterz.

My experiences extend beyond GameSpot as i'm sure many other peoples do and i'm not going to list everything nor do i have to, i've just had bad experiences such as having to move class to avoid such people and getting into fights because they won't let it go.

I could also say that games were created to be played and websites were created to be visited regardless of how much entertainment they provide, thats what they were created for, as clothes are created to keep you warm.

Other than the practical uses a watch has, how are you entertained by it? i'm just curious.

I just use a cool looking watch as a tool. I usually never take it off, even when I'm asleep.

I just use a cool looking watch as a tool. I usually never take it off, even when I'm asleep.

arad96

The irony (reference to my earlier post)

No offence intended.

[QUOTE="Palantas"]

Enjoy your bare wrist. I'm sure it means a lot to you. Just know that you're in the small minority of people who don't bother to wear a watch. Deal.

See, that doesn't really take any thought, does it?

EDIT:

I went back and read this stuff carefully. Your "pretty much" bit is sufficiently vague that you could have meant just about anything, giving you considerable latitude to make stuff up. So yes, I did misquote you. I apologize.

Ken_Masterz

I couldn't agree more.

The purpose of a watch is to tell the time, if you use it for anything else such as "fashion" then you're a tool.

ProjectClash

I don't wear watches, and even I think you don't know what you're talking about..