2700k or 3770k ?

Sup dudes, I've got the money and the itch to upgrade my CPU but I'm stuck between the i7 2700k or the i7 3770k.

The rest of my system is fine and I have an ivy ready z68. I like clocking at 4.5GHz and I am not a fan of heat.Is ivy worth the extra? The Anandtech benches seem about even.

What is your reason to upgrade the 2500k?

What is your reason to upgrade the 2500k?

Lox_Cropek

Any upgrade would be useless :Snilzg

[QUOTE="nilzg"]Any upgrade would be useless :Swhitey_rolls

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Ivy bridge, its faster, and more energy effecient. Yes it gets a little hotter, but thats because your going from 32nm to 22nm transistors, meaning they are closer together and undoubtly create more heat. That doesnt mean its worse. The only thing you are gaining from an i5 2500 to a i7 2700 is hyperthreading. what you gain from a sandy bridge to an ivy bridge is a more optimized architecture

Ivy bridge, its faster, and more energy effecient. Yes it gets a little hotter, but thats because your going from 32nm to 22nm transistors, meaning they are closer together and undoubtly create more heat. That doesnt mean its worse. The only thing you are gaining from an i5 2500 to a i7 2700 is hyperthreading. what you gain from a sandy bridge to an ivy bridge is a more optimized architecture

way2funny

agreed, whats the point of upgrading if your not even gonna change when u already have a SB

No real point in the upgrade if u already have a 2500k. But between those two items, I'd say the 3770k for lower power usage. However if u want a real upgrade go for the 3960k. It will cost you a lot of money but it makes more sense. 6 cores, 12 threads and a monstrous cache.

Spend it on something you'll notice - screen, mouse/keyboard, headphones/speakers etc

Too late, I've pulled the trigger! :) 3770k coming tomorrow.acanofcoke

Thats $$$, but I guess you really wanted the e-peen :P I kid.

I recommend flashing the motherboard just in case.

You want to upgrade your 2500k?????????????????????????????????????? Im sorry i just do not understand your need to burn your money becuse that is all you have dune at this point. You toke a fantastic CPU and perfectly fine money and wasted it on a cpu that relly is not any faster then the one you have. But hey wee need people like you to wast every doller you have on stupidity to keep the ecomony going. Addict187

Pretty much sums up my thoughts.

BTW is your 2500k in good condition? ill buy it if you are interested in selling as my CPU is my bottleneck. 7.6 WEI and 7.9 every single other thing. also im serious pm me.Obiwan_1O

A 3.8ghz i7-930 "bottleneck." LMAO.

[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]BTW is your 2500k in good condition? ill buy it if you are interested in selling as my CPU is my bottleneck. 7.6 WEI and 7.9 every single other thing. also im serious pm me.hartsickdiscipl

A 3.8ghz i7-930 "bottleneck." LMAO.

Yeh just like my 3930k is a bottleneck

Too late, I've pulled the trigger! :) 3770k coming tomorrow.acanofcoke

You want to upgrade your 2500k?????????????????????????????????????? Im sorry i just do not understand your need to burn your money becuse that is all you have dune at this point. You toke a fantastic CPU and perfectly fine money and wasted it on a cpu that relly is not any faster then the one you have. But hey wee need people like you to wast every doller you have on stupidity to keep the ecomony going. Addict187

Why are you getting all bent out of shape ? ....It's his money to do whatever he wants with...

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[QUOTE="Addict187"]You want to upgrade your 2500k?????????????????????????????????????? Im sorry i just do not understand your need to burn your money becuse that is all you have dune at this point. You toke a fantastic CPU and perfectly fine money and wasted it on a cpu that relly is not any faster then the one you have. But hey wee need people like you to wast every doller you have on stupidity to keep the ecomony going. DieselCat18

Why are you getting all bent out of shape ? ....It's his money to do whatever he wants with...

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[QUOTE="DieselCat18"]

[QUOTE="Addict187"]You want to upgrade your 2500k?????????????????????????????????????? Im sorry i just do not understand your need to burn your money becuse that is all you have dune at this point. You toke a fantastic CPU and perfectly fine money and wasted it on a cpu that relly is not any faster then the one you have. But hey wee need people like you to wast every doller you have on stupidity to keep the ecomony going.Toxic-Seahorse

Why are you getting all bent out of shape ? ....It's his money to do whatever he wants with...

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If it was some what of an intelligent opinion, fine. But this is ignorant and a waste of space in this forum. He should spend a bit more time learning how to spell instead of getting his panties in a knot.

[QUOTE="Addict187"]You want to upgrade your 2500k?????????????????????????????????????? Im sorry i just do not understand your need to burn your money becuse that is all you have dune at this point. You toke a fantastic CPU and perfectly fine money and wasted it on a cpu that relly is not any faster then the one you have. But hey wee need people like you to wast every doller you have on stupidity to keep the ecomony going. DieselCat18

Why are you getting all bent out of shape ? ....It's his money to do whatever he wants with...

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BTW is your 2500k in good condition? ill buy it if you are interested in selling as my CPU is my bottleneck. 7.6 WEI and 7.9 every single other thing. also im serious pm me.Obiwan_1O

[QUOTE="Addict187"]You want to upgrade your 2500k?????????????????????????????????????? Im sorry i just do not understand your need to burn your money becuse that is all you have dune at this point. You toke a fantastic CPU and perfectly fine money and wasted it on a cpu that relly is not any faster then the one you have. But hey wee need people like you to wast every doller you have on stupidity to keep the ecomony going. hartsickdiscipl

Pretty much sums up my thoughts.

[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]BTW is your 2500k in good condition? ill buy it if you are interested in selling as my CPU is my bottleneck. 7.6 WEI and 7.9 every single other thing. also im serious pm me.hartsickdiscipl

A 3.8ghz i7-930 "bottleneck." LMAO.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Addict187"]You want to upgrade your 2500k?????????????????????????????????????? Im sorry i just do not understand your need to burn your money becuse that is all you have dune at this point. You toke a fantastic CPU and perfectly fine money and wasted it on a cpu that relly is not any faster then the one you have. But hey wee need people like you to wast every doller you have on stupidity to keep the ecomony going. whitey_rolls

Pretty much sums up my thoughts.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]BTW is your 2500k in good condition? ill buy it if you are interested in selling as my CPU is my bottleneck. 7.6 WEI and 7.9 every single other thing. also im serious pm me.Lox_Cropek

A 3.8ghz i7-930 "bottleneck." LMAO.

ok well I can guarantee it is bottlenecking my 7970, all benchmarks, tests and frames prove my CPU is the weakest link ATM. you all should know that just because its an i7 that dosnt mean squat for gaming, more cores just dont help for gaming.

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

A 3.8ghz i7-930 "bottleneck." LMAO.

Obiwan_1O

ok well I can guarantee it is bottlenecking my 7970, all benchmarks, tests and frames prove my CPU is the weakest link ATM. you all should know that just because its an i7 that dosnt mean squat for gaming, more cores just dont help for gaming.

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

A 3.8ghz i7-930 "bottleneck." LMAO.

Obiwan_1O

ok well I can guarantee it is bottlenecking my 7970, all benchmarks, tests and frames prove my CPU is the weakest link ATM. you all should know that just because its an i7 that dosnt mean squat for gaming, more cores just dont help for gaming.

That's nonsense. There are a ton of games out there that use quad-cores. Your 3.8ghz i7-930 is still a very fast CPU. It shouldn't be struggling with anything.

I want to preface by saying that I can play any game smoothly with max settings so >30 fps at this point im still happy with the CPU and planning on waiting for haswell to upgrade. Having said that for instance every test/benchmark that specifies CPU is always my lowest score such as in my windows experience index where every single option is 7.9 with the CPU at 7.6. Now some games that could have higher frames and arent like at 60fps are total war shogun 2, empire total war, battlefield 3, GW2, the witcher 2, borderlands 2 (with max physx), batman AC, Metro 2033, and crysis 2. For gaming core clock speed and more efficent clock speed (which his used and what I was hoping for cheap 2500k has the advantage with) are king. Games simply cannot utilize all 8 cores on my CPU and shogun is a perfect example of that, the game should be a joke but its not >60fps b/c it dosent utilize the cores for squat. I rape at handbrake and BOINC though ;D

[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]Yeah, I highly doubt that 930 is a bottleneck.

hartsickdiscipl

ok well I can guarantee it is bottlenecking my 7970, all benchmarks, tests and frames prove my CPU is the weakest link ATM. you all should know that just because its an i7 that dosnt mean squat for gaming, more cores just dont help for gaming.

That's nonsense. There are a ton of games out there that use quad-cores. Your 3.8ghz i7-930 is still a very fast CPU. It shouldn't be struggling with anything.

I repeat, you are putting words in my mouth. nothing is STRUGGLING, my i7930 IS still very fast, HOWEVER it is the weakest part of my setup no matter how fast it is period.

I want to preface by saying that I can play any game smoothly with max settings so >30 fps at this point im still happy with the CPU and planning on waiting for haswell to upgrade. Having said that for instance every test/benchmark that specifies CPU is always my lowest score such as in my windows experience index where every single option is 7.9 with the CPU at 7.6. Now some games that could have higher frames and arent like at 60fps are total war shogun 2, empire total war, battlefield 3, GW2, the witcher 2, borderlands 2 (with max physx), batman AC, Metro 2033, and crysis 2. For gaming core clock speed and more efficent clock speed (which his used and what I was hoping for cheap 2500k has the advantage with) are king. Games simply cannot utilize all 8 cores on my CPU and shogun is a perfect example of that, the game should be a joke but its not >60fps b/c it dosent utilize the cores for squat. I rape at handbrake and BOINC though ;D

Obiwan_1O

A true 8-core with the Nehalem i7 architecture would perform quite a bit better in some of those games than your 930. I don't know that such a CPU ever existed. What you have is a quad-core with hyperthreading. Hyperthreading is utilized by next to no games. Of course clock for clock efficiency has improved with Sandy and Ivy Bridge, but Nehalem is still a very strong architecture. Consider the fact that many of us here still use 3 to 4ghz Phenom II X4's as our CPUs and get very good performance in games. Your CPU is quite a bit faster clock for clock. How you spend your money is your business, but I think you're misusing the term "bottleneck" by tagging your CPU as such. It's definitely not.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

ok well I can guarantee it is bottlenecking my 7970, all benchmarks, tests and frames prove my CPU is the weakest link ATM. you all should know that just because its an i7 that dosnt mean squat for gaming, more cores just dont help for gaming.

Obiwan_1O

That's nonsense. There are a ton of games out there that use quad-cores. Your 3.8ghz i7-930 is still a very fast CPU. It shouldn't be struggling with anything.

I repeat, you are putting words in my mouth. nothing is STRUGGLING, my i7930 IS still very fast, HOWEVER it is the weakest part of my setup no matter how fast it is period.

Every computer has a weakest link at all times, regardless of what you upgrade. The smartest strategy is to keep the components fairly well-balanced so that one component isn't holding back the rest of the system noticeably. A 3.8ghz i7 930 will not hold back a 7970 noticeably. I've seen people on this forum with 4.4ghz Ivy Bridge CPUs reporting the same performance in those games that you are getting.

[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

I want to preface by saying that I can play any game smoothly with max settings so >30 fps at this point im still happy with the CPU and planning on waiting for haswell to upgrade. Having said that for instance every test/benchmark that specifies CPU is always my lowest score such as in my windows experience index where every single option is 7.9 with the CPU at 7.6. Now some games that could have higher frames and arent like at 60fps are total war shogun 2, empire total war, battlefield 3, GW2, the witcher 2, borderlands 2 (with max physx), batman AC, Metro 2033, and crysis 2. For gaming core clock speed and more efficent clock speed (which his used and what I was hoping for cheap 2500k has the advantage with) are king. Games simply cannot utilize all 8 cores on my CPU and shogun is a perfect example of that, the game should be a joke but its not >60fps b/c it dosent utilize the cores for squat. I rape at handbrake and BOINC though ;D

hartsickdiscipl

A true 8-core with the Nehalem i7 architecture would perform quite a bit better in some of those games than your 930. I don't know that such a CPU ever existed. What you have is a quad-core with hyperthreading. Hyperthreading is utilized by next to no games. Of course clock for clock efficiency has improved with Sandy and Ivy Bridge, but Nehalem is still a very strong architecture. Consider the fact that many of us here still use 3 to 4ghz Phenom II X4's as our CPUs and get very good performance in games. Your CPU is quite a bit faster clock for clock. How you spend your money is your business, but I think you're misusing the term "bottleneck" by tagging your CPU as such. It's definitely not.

Misusing bottleneck I am not, a bottleneck exsists in any system and it is simply whatever is the slowest component preventing the the others from fully utilizing all of their potential. You are a small minded arrogant prick who cant see beyond himself and cannot simply understand something without comparing it to himself. I do not care at all what you are using or how it compares, I never said my CPU was SLOW I said relativley to the rest of MY syetem it is the SLOWEST and that is a massive difference. It is my money and I will do whatever the hell I want with it as I worked hard for it. Also I know far more about computers than you and I dont need an education about cores as I know i7s dont have 8 physical cores, and thats not what im talking about. What I am talking about is the difference between his i5 and my i7 which is 4 virtual cores equaling a total 8 logical cores which the games dont care about at all giving me no performance increase, therefore the only difference between his i5 and my i7 is clock speed and efficency at that clock speed. With my 212 evo I could get his 2500k to 4.5 GHz vs my current 3.8 which would yeild a much greater performance and if I could of got it cheap and then sold mine It would have been worth it. that is all...

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

I want to preface by saying that I can play any game smoothly with max settings so >30 fps at this point im still happy with the CPU and planning on waiting for haswell to upgrade. Having said that for instance every test/benchmark that specifies CPU is always my lowest score such as in my windows experience index where every single option is 7.9 with the CPU at 7.6. Now some games that could have higher frames and arent like at 60fps are total war shogun 2, empire total war, battlefield 3, GW2, the witcher 2, borderlands 2 (with max physx), batman AC, Metro 2033, and crysis 2. For gaming core clock speed and more efficent clock speed (which his used and what I was hoping for cheap 2500k has the advantage with) are king. Games simply cannot utilize all 8 cores on my CPU and shogun is a perfect example of that, the game should be a joke but its not >60fps b/c it dosent utilize the cores for squat. I rape at handbrake and BOINC though ;D

Obiwan_1O

A true 8-core with the Nehalem i7 architecture would perform quite a bit better in some of those games than your 930. I don't know that such a CPU ever existed. What you have is a quad-core with hyperthreading. Hyperthreading is utilized by next to no games. Of course clock for clock efficiency has improved with Sandy and Ivy Bridge, but Nehalem is still a very strong architecture. Consider the fact that many of us here still use 3 to 4ghz Phenom II X4's as our CPUs and get very good performance in games. Your CPU is quite a bit faster clock for clock. How you spend your money is your business, but I think you're misusing the term "bottleneck" by tagging your CPU as such. It's definitely not.

Misusing bottleneck I am not, a bottleneck exsists in any system and it is simply whatever is the slowest component preventing the the others from fully utilizing all of their potential. You are a small minded arrogant prick who cant see beyond himself and cannot simply understand something without comparing it to himself. I do not care at all what you are using or how it compares, I never said my CPU was SLOW I said relativley to the rest of MY syetem it is the SLOWEST and that is a massive difference. It is my money and I will do whatever the hell I want with it as I worked hard for it. Also I know far more about computers than you and I dont need an education about cores as I know i7s dont have 8 physical cores, and thats not what im talking about. What I am talking about is the difference between his i5 and my i7 which is 4 virtual cores equaling a total 8 logical cores which the games dont care about at all giving me no performance increase, therefore the only difference between his i5 and my i7 is clock speed and efficency at that clock speed. With my 212 evo I could get his 2500k to 4.5 GHz vs my current 3.8 which would yeild a much greater performance and if I could of got it cheap and then sold mine It would have been worth it. that is all...

I think you should ask some of the other posters here in the hardware section if they think I am small-minded and arrogant. I believe you'll be surprised by how many people here respect my opinions and analysis when it comes to PC hardware. I'm trying to help you out, and you respond by insulting me. You know nothing of my background and experience when it comes to computers. To assume that you have superior knowledge is ridiculous.

By the way- No computer has a true hardware bottleneck. The bottleneck is always determined by the software you are running. Put that in your pipe.

The gods have spoken in anger for the most unnecessary upgrade I've seen.

The gods have spoken in anger for the most unnecessary upgrade I've seen.

lulmont

[QUOTE="lulmont"]

The gods have spoken in anger for the most unnecessary upgrade I've seen.

acanofcoke

The gods have spoken in anger for the most unnecessary upgrade I've seen.

lulmont

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="DieselCat18"]

Why are you getting all bent out of shape ? ....It's his money to do whatever he wants with...

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DieselCat18

If it was some what of an intelligent opinion, fine. But this is ignorant and a waste of space in this forum. He should spend a bit more time learning how to spell instead of getting his panties in a knot.