$60 justified for Starcraft 2? (poll)

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#1 dos4gw82
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There has been a thread discussing the price of Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty, but I'd like to get a tally of exactly how people feel about it.

I myself am fine with the price, considering that I'll be getting both a lengthy single player game and a solid multiplayer experience. Of course, I understand that Activision would still be making a mountain of money if they just charged the regular $50. Since there is no used-games factor to be had with PC gaming, and since SC2 is probably the most hotly anticipated PC title to come along in quite a few years, there is no doubt that they are going to make an absolute killing.

But when it comes down to it, we're talking about $10 here. Though Activision might not deserve it, (I notice people think very few publishing companies do) I do like the idea of Blizzard remaining a hugely important and profitable developer to them. There are too few PC exclusive developers out there that are.

Of course, if the next two games are above, say $45, I might end up feeling quite different about things.

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#2 krazyorange
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I would be fine with $60 if it was the entire game...but it's not, it's only one of three parts. Even if the next two are $30, that means it's $120 for the complete game. So no, I'm not happy with this and I won't buy it.
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#3 -Origin-
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I think the mentality for the pricing should be "It's ONLY $60!?"

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#4 DanielDust
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@KO So you'd be happy if you got a random extremely short campaign for every race and then two expansions with other random missions for each race?....I don't want to sound rude but that is extremely stupid especially in this case, because each game will be released after 1-1.5 years or more...I want the full campaign for each race not some random missions that end with a cliffhanger then I have to wait a few years more to find out what happened and so on, I don even care about Terran or Zerg, all I want is Protoss and it's the last game :( and I'm still not mad about this whole thing.

Anyway I will gladly pay 100$ since I'm getting the CE.

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#5 Kh1ndjal
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in purely dollars/hour i think starcraft2 has way more value than any other game coming out this year.
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#6 RichardStallman
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Warcraft III was also $60 and it was well worth it.
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#7 Wasdie  Moderator
Member since 2003 • 53622 Posts

Such a high profile game means high demand. Econ 101 tells us with high demand you *can* see higher prices that don't effect demand to much.

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#8 Renevent42
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I would be fine with $60 if it was the entire game...but it's not, it's only one of three parts. Even if the next two are $30, that means it's $120 for the complete game. So no, I'm not happy with this and I won't buy it.krazyorange
So a 30 mission long campaign (with Blizzard quality cut scenes), full multiplayer with 3 races, and a robust toolset isn't a "full game"? Just curious, what recent RTS do you consider to be a "full game"?
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[QUOTE="krazyorange"]I would be fine with $60 if it was the entire game...but it's not, it's only one of three parts. Even if the next two are $30, that means it's $120 for the complete game. So no, I'm not happy with this and I won't buy it.Renevent42
So a 30 mission long campaign (with Blizzard quality cut scenes), full multiplayer with 3 races, and a robust toolset isn't a "full game"? Just curious, what recent RTS do you consider to be a "full game"?

No, what game in recent history do you consider to be a full game. Because going by what he said apparantly Dragon Age isn't, Crysis wasn't, Oblivion, Fallout 3, and any game that has an expansion. So sadly i guess the only full game is something like Assassin's Creed 2 and that has less to offer than just Starcraft 2's map editor by itself.
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#10 Doom_HellKnight
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I'm buying the Collector's Edition, so I'd happily pay more... :P

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#11 chrisrooR
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It seems as though SCII is going to be one of the best games of the year, so yes, I will gladly pay 60 dollars for it.
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#12 chapman86
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Im very furious with their price decision. I will boycott this until SC3 comes out.

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#13 DanielDust
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Im very furious with their price decision. I will boycott this until SC3 comes out.

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Nice, see ya in 15 years or so ;).
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#14 with_teeth26
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In Canada retail games have been switching between 50 and 60 dollars for some time, so its no big surprise. I've even seen new games selling for 55 dollars. Seems the really high profile games more often sell for 60, while the slightly lower profile titles sell for 50 or 55.

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#15 StopThePresses
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$60 today is equivalent to $50 roughly seven and a half years ago, and games have been $50 or more for a lot longer than that.

The game will have more content than the original Starcraft, and more than most other RTS games for that matter, so I find all of the tired claims that it's only "one third" of a game or whatever such nonsense to be just annoying, especially when people don't even actually know anything about the other two other than what races the campaign portions will focus on.

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#16 James00715
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I don't like it much, (Who likes paying more money?) but I will deal with it like everyone else. I am almost sure the "expansions" are gonna be $50 though. It seems to be a common trend that PC expansions are only $10 less than the base game. So expect to pay $160 for all three.

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#17 starfox15
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Aren't they charging a subscription fee for online modes? And this isn't even the whole game? What the hell Blizzard. I used to respect you.

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#18 naval
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[QUOTE="chapman86"]

Im very furious with their price decision. I will boycott this until SC3 comes out.

DanielDust
Nice, see ya in 15 years or so ;).

not to mention they break SC 3 in 3 parts , he will have to wait at least another 15 yrs :P
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#19 Tuzolord
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Its still normal Price at the Shop im buying..

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#20 wildemu
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you guys are confusing me now. So now we're not going to get the complete game in july? Typical activision if we have to pay for 2 more $60 packs just to enjoy the game.

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#21 DanielDust
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you guys are confusing me now. So now we're not going to get the complete game in july? Typical activision if we have to pay for 2 more $60 packs just to enjoy the game.

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#22 THGarrett
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Blizzard is one of the few developers which I would gladly pay $60 and more for. I've paid around $100 a piece for th collectors edition of WoW and its expansions and have no regrets.

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#23 StopThePresses
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Aren't they charging a subscription fee for online modes?starfox15

No. I don't know why this rumor is so persistent but it is blatantly wrong.

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#24 Drazule
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I'm not happy but its going to be worth the cost.

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#25 SF_KiLLaMaN
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Never played the first. I was interested in the second but a $60 price tag kills it for me.
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#26 BrickMcStick
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It's no doubt greedy, Blizzard has piles of money from WOW. I will still buy it because it looks amazing but regardless that still doesn't justify the price. It's true there are very few PC exclusives anymore but that doesn't mean we should have to pay more for that. It doesn't matter very much to me, I'm gonna buy it, and Blizzard knows many others will as well.

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#27 klusps
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Would prefer it to be $50 but 60 is alright sense I know Blizzard products to be at their highest quality. It is not like Blizzard is giving us an unfinish campaign. They said themselves that each race campaign is a full fledge campaign with a beginning and a ending.

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#28 envybianchi
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I will wait until Starcraft II Battlechest edition comes out. I'm not paying freaking $180 for ONE game that is split into three. I'd understand if it was one whole game & 2 alternate expansions but that's not even it. Sure anyone can argue, but but but.... there's more content! Sure more levels & gameplay but no matter how you look at it, it's still one game split into three.

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#29 illmatic87
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Unfortunately the price wont go down anytime soon.. I bought mine online which I got cheaper than retail here in Australia. Not happy about the sudden change but its Blizzard, there is a solid SP an active MP and a Toolset, I think I got away with highway robbery when paying for Warcraft 3 for what I paid for back years ago.
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#30 Lemonio
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of course its fine. its called inflation. games used to cost 50. before that they cost 40.

money just buys less these days. 60 dollars is still a great deal for a game that you will use for hundreds of hours

much better than a 60 dollar dinner that you eat once and then its gone

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#31 -Feath-
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I am getting it for £25 which is roughly $40, so this doesn't really apply to me. However..

It's a massive game; it isn't like you are buying Modern Warfare 2 and getting a tiny campaign with a locked down multiplayer. You get a (correct me if i'm wrong) 20 hour campaign, a mini campaign for protoss, an incredibly competitive and versatile multiplayer and all the mods that come along with the map editor. Sounds like it's worth $60 to me, especially when there is "Blizzard" on the box.

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#32 Ondoval
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I'll pay 60 € even if I think that the price is high, because I known that will play a lot the game. But I'll not pay over 40 € for any of the 2 expansions, doesn't matter how long thwy will be, because I'm mainly attracted by the mp and will not pay full price for the sp once I did have the mp.

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#33 rollermint
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I would be fine with $60 if it was the entire game...but it's not, it's only one of three parts. Even if the next two are $30, that means it's $120 for the complete game. So no, I'm not happy with this and I won't buy it.krazyorange
Its in 3 parts but SC 2 is as long as the original SC game. It has full multiplayer features and includes a very powerful mod/editing tool. Nobody complained that the original DoW and Dow 2 only featured a single campaign. And people seem able to accept paying 50-60 dollars for completely linear game that only has 10 hour content and some shoddy multiplayer with no editing tool. What exactly is there to complain about SC 2? I really have a hard time trying to understand it, considering what we actually get.
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#34 sleepingzzz
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You can always wait for it to drop in price.

I will be buying it the day it comes out. It's a little pricey but, I waited over 10 years. I'm tired of waiting.

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#35 StopThePresses
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I will wait until Starcraft II Battlechest edition comes out. I'm not paying freaking $180 for ONE game that is split into three. I'd understand if it was one whole game & 2 alternate expansions but that's not even it. Sure anyone can argue, but but but.... there's more content! Sure more levels & gameplay but no matter how you look at it, it's still one game split into three.

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No matter how you look at it, it's still a full game. Sure anyone can argue, "But but...there's going to be another game using the same gameplay mechanics!" Sure, more levels and different units and a different story, but no matter how you look at it, it's still a different game.
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$200 and a monthly fee for $15 per month just for one game? I'll pass, thanks.
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#37 FelipeInside
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I would be fine with $60 if it was the entire game...but it's not, it's only one of three parts. Even if the next two are $30, that means it's $120 for the complete game. So no, I'm not happy with this and I won't buy it.krazyorange
Try AU$99 for ONLY the first game... then probably AU$60 for the next 2.
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#38 FelipeInside
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$200 and a monthly fee for $15 per month just for one game? I'll pass, thanks. KHAndAnime
There's no monthly fee...
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]$200 and a monthly fee for $15 per month just for one game? I'll pass, thanks. FelipeInside
There's no monthly fee...

Just satirizing the kids who think that Starcraft 2 costs the equivalent of 3 full games and has a subscription fee. The two expansions are going to be priced appropriately, so it won't cost $180 as some people would like to believe. Expect to pay $140 at most, which is decent for a game and two stand-alone expansions. It's stupid that Starcraft 2 costs $60 (price gouging), but it's one of those few games I'll bite the bullet for. But if $60 starts becoming the rule and not the exception, such publishers/developers won't be seeing a dime of my money.
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#40 StopThePresses
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[QUOTE="krazyorange"]I would be fine with $60 if it was the entire game...but it's not, it's only one of three parts. Even if the next two are $30, that means it's $120 for the complete game. So no, I'm not happy with this and I won't buy it.rollermint


Its in 3 parts but SC 2 is as long as the original SC game. It has full multiplayer features and includes a very powerful mod/editing tool.

Nobody complained that the original DoW and Dow 2 only featured a single campaign.
And people seem able to accept paying 50-60 dollars for completely linear game that only has 10 hour content and some shoddy multiplayer with no editing tool.

What exactly is there to complain about SC 2? I really have a hard time trying to understand it, considering what we actually get.



Starcraft: Roughly 30 missions divided between 3 races, with many of the missions being rather trivial so that they could introduce gameplay mechanics or units. Story isn't really wrapped up until the expansion.

Brood War: Roughly 30 missions divided between 3 races.

Game + Expansion: Roughly 60 missions divided between 3 races. Most people are fine with this.

Starcraft II, game + two (standalone) expansions: Roughly 90 (probably) missions divided between 3 races, with additional units and unlockable upgrades and things like that in the campaign which are not even part of the multiplayer component, when the multiplayer component itself is reason enough for many to buy the game. Also, as a nifty bonus, it includes a powerful editor that people can basically make entirely different games with, like the stupid Tetris and bullet hell shooter clones that have already popped up. "OMG, Blizzard, how can you do this? What a rip-off!"

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#41 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="rollermint"][QUOTE="krazyorange"]I would be fine with $60 if it was the entire game...but it's not, it's only one of three parts. Even if the next two are $30, that means it's $120 for the complete game. So no, I'm not happy with this and I won't buy it.StopThePresses



Its in 3 parts but SC 2 is as long as the original SC game. It has full multiplayer features and includes a very powerful mod/editing tool.

Nobody complained that the original DoW and Dow 2 only featured a single campaign.
And people seem able to accept paying 50-60 dollars for completely linear game that only has 10 hour content and some shoddy multiplayer with no editing tool.

What exactly is there to complain about SC 2? I really have a hard time trying to understand it, considering what we actually get.



Starcraft: Roughly 30 missions divided between 3 races, with many of the missions being rather trivial so that they could introduce gameplay mechanics or units. Story isn't really wrapped up until the expansion.

Brood War: Roughly 30 missions divided between 3 races.

Game + Expansion: Roughly 60 missions divided between 3 races. Most people are fine with this.

Starcraft II, game + two (standalone) expansions: Roughly 90 (probably) missions divided between 3 races, with additional units and unlockable upgrades and things like that in the campaign which are not even part of the multiplayer component, when the multiplayer component itself is reason enough for many to buy the game. Also, as a nifty bonus, it includes a powerful editor that people can basically make entirely different games with, like the stupid Tetris and bullet hell shooter clones that have already popped up. "OMG, Blizzard, how can you do this? What a rip-off!"

You are correct.... unless you are living in AUS, you get a LOT for what you pay for in SC2.... I will be buying for sure.... and in my case I will get less, since I won't play MP....cause I always get my assss kicked...lol

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#42 StopThePresses
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]$200 and a monthly fee for $15 per month just for one game? I'll pass, thanks. KHAndAnime
There's no monthly fee...

Just satirizing the kids who think that Starcraft 2 costs the equivalent of 3 full games and has a subscription fee. The two expansions are going to be priced appropriately, so it won't cost $180 as some people would like to believe. Expect to pay $140 at most, which is decent for a game and two stand-alone expansions. It's stupid that Starcraft 2 costs $60 (price gouging), but it's one of those few games I'll bite the bullet for. But if $60 starts becoming the rule and not the exception, such publishers/developers won't be seeing a dime of my money.

So after how many years of inflation do you think $60 will be an acceptable price for new games? I'm curious about this. If $60 for a game today is price gouging, then $50 seven and a half years ago was price gouging, because, adjusted for inflation, they are basically the same price, and that is without even taking into consideration the increasing development costs of AAA titles that meet modern standards.

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#43 wizdom
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I would be fine with $60 if it was the entire game...but it's not, it's only one of three parts. Even if the next two are $30, that means it's $120 for the complete game. So no, I'm not happy with this and I won't buy it.krazyorange
Happy about it? No, but the truth is that it doesn't matter people are going to get it asap no matter what they charge for it in general, personally I don't mind paying 60 for it if it's a good game, but overall I understand gamers complaints over it though, especially when the expansions are going to cost 40 bucks a piece more than likely, but end the end of the day who cares? Gamers are still going to shell out money for it.

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#44 teardropmina
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with NW2 being priced $60, there's no need of justification for SC2's price and it's pointless to discuss whether the game is a full game or not.

actually, with NW2's price tag, almost every PC game, except for probably SP only direct console ports, is justified to sell for $60.

most cannot because they are not NW2 caliber games; in Blizz's case, why not? they have a huge royal fan base with many who probably will buy the game even at $80.

I myself will shop around for a cheaper copy or wait for the price drop. immune to hype for...cannot remember how long...

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#45 FelipeInside
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with NW2 being priced $60, there's no need of justification for SC2's price and it's pointless to discuss whether the game is a full game or not.

actually, with NW2's price tag, almost every PC game, except for probably SP only direct console ports, is justified to sell for $60.

most cannot because they are not NW2 caliber games; in Blizz's case, why not? they have a huge royal fan base with many who probably will buy the game even at $80.

I myself will shop around for a cheaper copy or wait for the price drop. immune to hype for...cannot remember how long...

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U sure...? U absolutely sure that the SC2 Hype Machine will not engulf you in it's arms and make you go out and buy it ASAP !!! :)
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#46 deactivated-5a61a463b062f
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Let me just say that I'm a huge Blizzard fan. Every game that Blizzard has made aside from Wow(since I haven't played it) I have loved. If SC2 was only 1 part I would gladly pay 60 dollars for it. Now if these 3 parts are each the equivalent of 1 game then I think it is fair. We have yet to see the size of each portion of SC2 though. I think after release we'll see the true reason behind releasing 3 parts; whether it was for profit or because each part is too large to release with any other part. I hope its the latter. :)
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#47 teardropmina
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[QUOTE="teardropmina"]

with NW2 being priced $60, there's no need of justification for SC2's price and it's pointless to discuss whether the game is a full game or not.

actually, with NW2's price tag, almost every PC game, except for probably SP only direct console ports, is justified to sell for $60.

most cannot because they are not NW2 caliber games; in Blizz's case, why not? they have a huge royal fan base with many who probably will buy the game even at $80.

I myself will shop around for a cheaper copy or wait for the price drop. immune to hype for...cannot remember how long...

FelipeInside

U sure...? U absolutely sure that the SC2 Hype Machine will not engulf you in it's arms and make you go out and buy it ASAP !!! :)

not in a million years...

though, I would throw out $100 with no hestiation for a brand new DnD CRPG, made by a developer team which inovles the core people from Black Isle and Troika.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="teardropmina"]

with NW2 being priced $60, there's no need of justification for SC2's price and it's pointless to discuss whether the game is a full game or not.

actually, with NW2's price tag, almost every PC game, except for probably SP only direct console ports, is justified to sell for $60.

most cannot because they are not NW2 caliber games; in Blizz's case, why not? they have a huge royal fan base with many who probably will buy the game even at $80.

I myself will shop around for a cheaper copy or wait for the price drop. immune to hype for...cannot remember how long...

teardropmina

U sure...? U absolutely sure that the SC2 Hype Machine will not engulf you in it's arms and make you go out and buy it ASAP !!! :)

not in a million years...

though, I would throw out $100 with no hestiation for a brand new DnD CRPG, made by a developer team which inovles the core people from Black Isle and Troika.

I'm with ya... I would fork out $100 for a BALDUR's GATE 3 !!!
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This is the point I was raising in my own thread. This game could cost $79 (au) here in Australia minimum. So do we actually have an official pricing for the other two parts? Its all good now to say they'll be appropriately priced as expansions. Well what if they're not?
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[QUOTE="teardropmina"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] U sure...? U absolutely sure that the SC2 Hype Machine will not engulf you in it's arms and make you go out and buy it ASAP !!! :)FelipeInside

not in a million years...

though, I would throw out $100 with no hestiation for a brand new DnD CRPG, made by a developer team which inovles the core people from Black Isle and Troika.

I'm with ya... I would fork out $100 for a BALDUR's GATE 3 !!!

I agree! :)