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#52 jedikevin2
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"] if he mainly plays fps games and has a limited budget of $500 AND most games are dependent on the gpu anyways, why would he go blow his load on a sandy bridge build and a weak video card? Like I said before, please go to newegg.com or any site you prefer and build us a sandy bridge build with decent video card for $500, many of us would be greatful.ferelden

ok first, when did his budget of $600 to go $500? second, how would he "blow his load" on sandy bridge when it is cheaper, performs better than the amd hex core? third, why would i make a new build when all he has to do is change the cpu and mobo and actually save money and get more peformance? get it now? heck he could buy a more expensive vid card with the money he would save getting a sandy. again, you lose now stop typing cuz you are completely clueless

Sigh...

A. 500 came to be when cutting 100 off for a operating system

B. I don't see you helping the Tc with a Sandy bridge alternative that would be "cheaper than the amd hex core".

C. Instead of argueing, help the TC. Find a good build of sandy bridge with a Os for 600 dollars with a moderate video card to ease the crowd.

D. Why are you insulting blazn stating he's clueless?

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#53 ferelden
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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

D. Why are you insulting blazn stating he's clueless?

Because he thinks Sandybridges cost an arm and a leg when some of them are actually cheaper than AMD p2 x4 x6 and the i3-2100 is cheaper than every single p2 x4 900 series chip and still outperforms them? i3-2100 $125 h61 motherboard $60 gskill 4gig 1333 $40 Asus DVD drive $17 ATX midtower case $25 550w PSU $20 hitachi 1TB hdd $55 Powercolor 6850 $150 Total: $492
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#54 blaznwiipspman1
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well since ferelden won't do it, I will, this is a SB build that fits in your budget. Unfortunately the cpu is the dual core, and the mobo, case and psu were some of the cheapest I could find. Not saying the quality is bad or anything, cuz its not.

cpu and mobo for $190

dvd burner for $19 free ship

Rosewill ATX case for $45 free ship

Seagate 1TB HDD with free ship and $5 promo code $60

Radeon 5770 for $110 also comes with $40 MIR

Apex 500 watt psu $40

4 gigs ram $45 free ship

Win 7 operating system for $100

Total comes to about $600 before shipping and taxes. Not a bad build, and can be upgraded in the future to a beefier cpu, and video card. Performs similar to the hex core from AMD.

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#55 marcthpro
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Performs similar to the hex core from AMD blaznwiipspman1
should be Performs better then more expensive solution The AMD Hex Core since Hex Core 1100T = 190-200$ CPU +70$ MOBO :

I was hoping you guy sort a build like Did Blazn but it seem i gotta get involved in doing a build i haven't for a week seem i gotta help will come with my solution based of blazn selection to Confirm what he claim it should come to a total of 600$ as well

also I think he shoudn't have gotten mad at Blazn and instead come with a build that confirm is point :he came with Benchmark proof that i would have otherwhise post that show that With FPS/RTS Games : the Core i3 2100 = Generation II beat Phenom II X6 Stock in all Scenario for 1680x1050 & 1920x1200 Gaming

but i wouldn't know how perform Core i3 2100 Versus Phenom II X6 1100T 4.1GHZ OC it could make the X6 a Winner but in the end it cost more which reduce the quality of the Video card Selected Close to Dramatically

Also It is True that H67/P67 Will support Core i5 / Core i7 SandyBridge But not IvyBridge 22mm (Cougar point) on Intel Roadmap 2012 Q1

How Ever if he as upgrade in mind he could pick an Am3+ Ready AMD solution and go with a Phenom II X4 CPU and Later upgrade to Bulldozer let say in 2012/2013 that also a viable solution and perhap more future proof then intel LGA 1155 SandyBridge Limited Architecture

But that is unknown of Exact potential it as for gaming So we need to see Bulldozer/Zambezi Benchmark but i believe if there early claim is Right They Said it should be 50% Better then Core i7 950 then in gaming it will Either Crush or Equal SandyBridge until Intel Release IvyBridge however it is also unknown if Am3+ Ready mobo will all support shrink of Zambezi which will release also around 2012 Q1/Q2 as Far Roadmap claim which could be delay as well

Anyway Back to helping TC now that we have discuss of the mater if you mind :D il post a build

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#56 ferelden
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lets just wrap this up, bottom line, the TC budget is EXTREMELY limited considering he needs EVERYTHING to bundle under $600, I wouldn't be surprised if he came in here and also stated he needs mouse/keyboard and a monitor in that $600 as well. AMD no longer is king of low mid range budget CPUs, when intel released sandy bridges in january 2011. benchmarks show intel's cheaper sandy bridges can outperform more expensive AMD cpus, even their top of line 6-cores. so if someone is on EXTREMELY tight budget like TC, they should be directed to best performance/price system, and that would start with a sandy bridge cpu.
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#57 marcthpro
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yes but intel mobo H67 Still cost about 80$ as cheapest in combo pick anyhow Phenom II X4 & 770G still cost Less ofc perform less but can be focus on GPU Im still checking if i can come it to 599$ RAW : So far im at 669$ Gotta Fix thing to get it done Right : OS cost 100$ that y
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#58 blaznwiipspman1
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yes but intel mobo H67 Still cost about 80$ as cheapest in combo pick anyhow Phenom II X4 & 770G still cost Less ofc perform less but can be focus on GPU Im still checking if i can come it to 599$ RAW : So far im at 669$ Gotta Fix thing to get it done Right : OS cost 100$ that ymarcthpro

I couldnt link properly cuz of HTML problems, I don't know how to do it properly. Anyways heres the direct link

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.631850The cpu and mobo for $190

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023case for $45

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168221486971 TB HDD seagate for $55 after $5 promo code

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168203130814 gb ddr 3 ram 1600 for $46

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817154026APEX 500 watt psu for $40 (good reviews)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131330Radeon 5770 for $110 comes with $40 Mail in Rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151192Samsung dvd burner $19 free ship with promo code

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754Win 7 home 64 bit $100

Total = $605 before shipping and taxes

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#59 fishing666
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[QUOTE="fishing666"]^that's even worse than that budget combo Gambler_3

How so? The casing and power supply are better on his build....

an expensive case doesn't make it better. It all depends on personal preference. A power supply unit doesn't make his computer faster. I also have the same HEC 585 Watt psu in my current build and it works perfectly for a year now
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#60 marcthpro
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you beat me in speed and getting part right pic nice job blaznwiipspman1 :lol i never tough i could get the part down so cheap :lol was searching for that combo now i found it yeah it save 20$ over H67 : i found a MSI B3 H67 for 90$ and the cpu 120$ 90+120$ = 210$ you is 190$ so i lose for tight Budget :D

when ur in a Very Tight budget a 20$ there and there can solve problem how ever i'm uncertain of performances of H61 lol

also I found a Sweet Combo for 110$ : 750W HEC & 1.TB Seagate Barracuda SATA 6GB/S http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.627758
aslo far I heard HEC are Better then Apeiva Powersupply in Quality & Lifespawn :)

also if you want a better case i found a Better Deal For Topic Creator The Antec 300 Illusion 44.99$ & Free shipping :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023 It obvious when it come to compare Rosewill to Antec It Antec that win

but there might be coolermaster at similar price on other place like microcenter.com if he live close to one

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#62 Mr_BillGates
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The i3-2100 is a DUAL-core......

Why one earth would you buy a dual-core at this point in time?

Btw you don't even know what motherboard he has. If he has a fully featured AM3+ board (USB3, SATA III, regular ATX, several PCI-E lanes, a good BIOS which allows for big overclocks then he could be right. You just listed the cheapest H61 boards...

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A dualcore that goes neck to neck with AMD's fastest 6 core. Who wants to buy AMD at all?
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#63 jedikevin2
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

The i3-2100 is a DUAL-core......

Why one earth would you buy a dual-core at this point in time?

Btw you don't even know what motherboard he has. If he has a fully featured AM3+ board (USB3, SATA III, regular ATX, several PCI-E lanes, a good BIOS which allows for big overclocks then he could be right. You just listed the cheapest H61 boards...

Mr_BillGates
A dualcore that goes neck to neck with AMD's fastest 6 core. Who wants to buy AMD at all?

LOL so much random amd/intel War on a thread that had nothing to do with that.
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#64 -RocBoys9489-
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[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"][QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

The i3-2100 is a DUAL-core......

Why one earth would you buy a dual-core at this point in time?

Btw you don't even know what motherboard he has. If he has a fully featured AM3+ board (USB3, SATA III, regular ATX, several PCI-E lanes, a good BIOS which allows for big overclocks then he could be right. You just listed the cheapest H61 boards...

jedikevin2
A dualcore that goes neck to neck with AMD's fastest 6 core. Who wants to buy AMD at all?

LOL so much random amd/intel War on a thread that had nothing to do with that.

Yea, tell me about it *facepalm Anyway, I got some decent input here on what I could do w/ a $600-ish budget to build this summer. However, I might just go all out and build a killer rig by the end of the year/early next year in hope of prices dropping off (GTX 570, i5 2500k), hopefully for 900-1000ish as I'll have more money by then.
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#65 marcthpro
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early next year is IVYBridge Instead of SandyBridge for the price bracket :P
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#66 Adam_the_Nerd
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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"] And this rig will run Crysis 2 quite well, correct? I know that those 2 prebuilt computers run it on the medium setting at around 45-50 FPS.-RocBoys9489-

Yes it most definitely will. Just remember that almost no regular computer can run Crysis 2 on max at a consistent 60 FPS. I mean, you're talking an overclocked SLI videocard setup with the most expensive low-latency RAM, a blazing-fast hard drive, an expensive high-FSB motherboard, and an overclocked processor. Plus, with all the heat you're generating, you'll want water cooling in there.

Basically, stuff I'll never own or use because it's way beyond my price range so I've never really dabbled with it.

I'm running a EVGA 1GB GTX460, AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz processor, SeaGate Barracuda HDD, 4GB Low-latency RAM and a nice Antec 900 case. And I ended up spending $800 when I built the system back in September. It could run the Crysis2 demo pretty well and the original Crysis at near max 1080p averaging 50fps. So I'd say you could get a more powerful system that could run those games better for a cheaper price.

And one last question, would I have room in the case for a GTX 570 down the line? I know I'd need to buy a bigger power supply too.

You'd be wasting your money going from a 460 to a 570. I'd wait til at least the generation after the 570s befored shelling out more money.