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#1 AARONRULZ1
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http://xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce8-roundup.html

Thats a fairly old review,but it proves that the 8500GT is a POS,8600GT is the absolute minimum you want for todays games.

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#2 yoyo462001
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lol its pretty bad for gaming standard i will be suprised if it loads up crysis. like you said mn its noob bait maybe a year back i would have got that gpu thinking i would own.
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lol its pretty bad for gaming standard i will be suprised if it loads up crysis. like you said mn its noob bait maybe a year back i would have got that gpu thinking i would own.yoyo462001
It will load up Crysis,just at lowest settings at 800x600...

And i probably would have got that if it existed in 2006 too :P

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#4 jking197
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The 8600GT isnt too bad, the 8500 is just shocking though.
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#5 AARONRULZ1
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The 8600GT isnt too bad, the 8500 is just shocking though.jking197
Seeing how its THAT bad,i wouldn't be surprised if a 6600GT could beat it.
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#6 Marine152
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Yea I admit the 8500 isnt no gaming monster. BUT, I can tell you it plays LOTRO on high 1024by768 as well as Fear on the same settings. It can run bf2 on high 800by600 and also plays the Quake Wars beta as smoth as a babies a**. O yea And it runs games like HF2 on max as well. Like i said its no gaming monster but it plays the games that I have and thats ll I care about. I would never try and run Crysises with this card though. It may not be alot for the high end gamer but for me its all I was able to afford at the time and it is way better than my previous intergrated. 8500 is decent!!!!!!
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#7 deniiiii21
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8600GT is a good card I dont know why people are afraid of it, its a very nice mid range card, my brother in law has it runs most games on high settings, I tell him to OC it but he thinks it might go bad, but I am sure with some OC that card would be very nice for 100-150$ budget, the only thing holding that card is the 128 interface, but its built on better architechure than a 7 series, plus it has a unified shader architechure which is a big plus.
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#8 Marine152
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But I do wish if i had a better PSU because I would have gotten the 7600GT :(
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#9 deniiiii21
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Marine a 7600gt can run on stock PSU man dont worry. Dont buy a 8500GT that card is not good for todays games.
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#10 AARONRULZ1
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@ Marine152: Have you got proof that your 8500GT can run those games decently?

@ deniiiii21: I'm not afraid of it,in fact its the best card i can afford,plus it pwns in oblivion,i'm getting the Gigabyte version,because it has a nice cooler design and it comes with Supreme Commander.

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aaron its good card it doesnt get hot uses low power, meaning it can be OC'ed very good, heck it gets better results on 3dmark than a 7900GS so go with that card, just make sure its the DDR3 version.

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#12 AARONRULZ1
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aaron its good card it doesnt get hot uses low power, meaning it can be OC'ed very good, heck it gets better results on 3dmark than a 7900GS so go with that card, just make sure its the DDR3 version.

deniiiii21
I know its a decent card,i'm just annoyed by all the hate on it,and i already know to get the GDDR3 instead of the GDDR2.
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[QUOTE="deniiiii21"]

aaron its good card it doesnt get hot uses low power, meaning it can be OC'ed very good, heck it gets better results on 3dmark than a 7900GS so go with that card, just make sure its the DDR3 version.

AARONRULZ1
I know its a decent card,i'm just annoyed by all the hate on it,and i already know to get the GDDR3 instead of the GDDR2.

Why get it tho, the 7900GS runs fine on 300w psu's tho you wont have DX10 but DX9 games run better
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="deniiiii21"]

aaron its good card it doesnt get hot uses low power, meaning it can be OC'ed very good, heck it gets better results on 3dmark than a 7900GS so go with that card, just make sure its the DDR3 version.

LouieV13

I know its a decent card,i'm just annoyed by all the hate on it,and i already know to get the GDDR3 instead of the GDDR2.

Why get it tho, the 7900GS runs fine on 300w psu's tho you wont have DX10 but DX9 games run better

8600GT is a bit cheaper than the 7900GS on newegg,plus it PWNS the 7900GS in oblivion,and the one i'm getting comes with a copy of Supreme Commander.

And the 7900GS DOES need a better PSU than the 8600GT,though not as bad as the X1950Pro.

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#15 LouieV13
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[QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="deniiiii21"]

aaron its good card it doesnt get hot uses low power, meaning it can be OC'ed very good, heck it gets better results on 3dmark than a 7900GS so go with that card, just make sure its the DDR3 version.

AARONRULZ1

I know its a decent card,i'm just annoyed by all the hate on it,and i already know to get the GDDR3 instead of the GDDR2.

Why get it tho, the 7900GS runs fine on 300w psu's tho you wont have DX10 but DX9 games run better

8600GT is a bit cheaper than the 7900GS on newegg,plus it PWNS the 7900GS in oblivion,and the one i'm getting comes with a copy of Supreme Commander.

And the 7900GS DOES need a better PSU than the 8600GT,though not as bad as the X1950Pro.

It uses the same ammount of wats as a 8600GT why would it need a better psu?! Is it teh paradoxes? Well I had a 8600GT and it was pretty awsome so go with one if you really think its gonna esplodde
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#16 deniiiii21
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Well the games that are shader intensive like oblivionand newer games like stalker, the 8600gt beats the crap out of 7900GS, the 8600gt will perform better in future games because they will be designed to take advantage of the unified shader, people hate the 8600 cards because 128 interface, because for a few months back a while there was this thing called 8600Ultra that everyone was going crazy for.
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#17 AARONRULZ1
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="deniiiii21"]

aaron its good card it doesnt get hot uses low power, meaning it can be OC'ed very good, heck it gets better results on 3dmark than a 7900GS so go with that card, just make sure its the DDR3 version.

LouieV13

I know its a decent card,i'm just annoyed by all the hate on it,and i already know to get the GDDR3 instead of the GDDR2.

Why get it tho, the 7900GS runs fine on 300w psu's tho you wont have DX10 but DX9 games run better

8600GT is a bit cheaper than the 7900GS on newegg,plus it PWNS the 7900GS in oblivion,and the one i'm getting comes with a copy of Supreme Commander.

And the 7900GS DOES need a better PSU than the 8600GT,though not as bad as the X1950Pro.

It uses the same ammount of wats as a 8600GT why would it need a better psu?! Is it teh paradoxes? Well I had a 8600GT and it was pretty awsome so go with one if you really think its gonna esplodde

Got proof? and no it better not explode :lol:

But if you liked it so much then why don't you have it? HUH? :P

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[QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="deniiiii21"]

aaron its good card it doesnt get hot uses low power, meaning it can be OC'ed very good, heck it gets better results on 3dmark than a 7900GS so go with that card, just make sure its the DDR3 version.

AARONRULZ1

I know its a decent card,i'm just annoyed by all the hate on it,and i already know to get the GDDR3 instead of the GDDR2.

Why get it tho, the 7900GS runs fine on 300w psu's tho you wont have DX10 but DX9 games run better

8600GT is a bit cheaper than the 7900GS on newegg,plus it PWNS the 7900GS in oblivion,and the one i'm getting comes with a copy of Supreme Commander.

And the 7900GS DOES need a better PSU than the 8600GT,though not as bad as the X1950Pro.

It uses the same ammount of wats as a 8600GT why would it need a better psu?! Is it teh paradoxes? Well I had a 8600GT and it was pretty awsome so go with one if you really think its gonna esplodde

Got proof? and no it better not explode :lol:

But if you liked it so much then why don't you have it? HUH? :P

I used to have a XFX8600GTXXX it pwnd but not as much as Crossfire 2900XT lol
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#19 Marine152
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Yes the 8500GT can run games like LOTRO online at high settingsand FEAR, Full Spectrum Warrior, WoW,AND HF2 ect. I play the damn quake wars beta on 800by600 with every setting on high, AA on, and even my lighting is on ULTRA! and I DO NOT get bad FPS at all, although I cant do the same in bf2 as well. I can boldy say that the 8500GT is a decent mid range card. ITS NOT THE BEST but people down this card way too much. For the price its at now its worth it for the average gamer. I dont know how I can prove it two you except that when I use Fraps I getaround 60FPS orabove when playing my games. No one is telling anybody to buy the card so I dont know whats all the drama about. Bottom line is that its not a gaming monster butcan playmost of the latest PC games rather well withdecnt Graphics. Thats all! 8500=mid range card end of dicussion.

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#20 AARONRULZ1
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@ Louie: How did you get your HD 2900XT CF lol?

@ Marine: Alright you win i guess,i still prefer the Gigabyte 8600GT tho...

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@ Louie: How did you get your HD 2900XT CF lol?

@ Marine: Alright you win i guess,i still prefer the Gigabyte 8600GT tho...

AARONRULZ1
I bought them and why gigabyte? Go for like eVGA BFG or ASUS
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#22 AARONRULZ1
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]

@ Louie: How did you get your HD 2900XT CF lol?

@ Marine: Alright you win i guess,i still prefer the Gigabyte 8600GT tho...

LouieV13
I bought them and why gigabyte? Go for like eVGA BFG or ASUS

The Gigabyte has a better cooler than the eVGA card,and it comes with a FREE copy of Supreme Commander.
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#23 Marine152
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Hey man If I was smarter and knew that I could run the 8600GT i really would have gottten that instead without a dought. But I was really scared that my PSU couldnt handle it so I picked the 8500GT. I really wish I could get the 8600GT but I dont want to make the money I spent on the 8500GT go down the drain, so Im going to stay with it for now.
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#24 LouieV13
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[QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]

@ Louie: How did you get your HD 2900XT CF lol?

@ Marine: Alright you win i guess,i still prefer the Gigabyte 8600GT tho...

AARONRULZ1
I bought them and why gigabyte? Go for like eVGA BFG or ASUS

The Gigabyte has a better cooler than the eVGA card,and it comes with a FREE copy of Supreme Commander.

Is it that Silent Pipe crap... those get hawt as hell lol get the ASUS 8600GT with the non-reference cooler its like 130$ comes with a cool fan.
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#25 AARONRULZ1
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Hey man If I was smarter and knew that I could run the 8600GT i really would have gottten that instead without a dought. But I was really scared that my PSU couldnt handle it so I picked the 8500GT. I really wish I could get the 8600GT but I dont want to make the money I spent on the 8500GT go down the drain, so Im going to stay with it for now.Marine152
Oh,i can understand that man.

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]

@ Louie: How did you get your HD 2900XT CF lol?

@ Marine: Alright you win i guess,i still prefer the Gigabyte 8600GT tho...

LouieV13
I bought them and why gigabyte? Go for like eVGA BFG or ASUS

The Gigabyte has a better cooler than the eVGA card,and it comes with a FREE copy of Supreme Commander.

Is it that Silent Pipe crap... those get hawt as hell lol get the ASUS 8600GT with the non-reference cooler its like 130$ comes with a cool fan.

How is Silent Pipe crap? got proof that they get hot? and i don't think the ASUS include's Supreme Commander.
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#26 LouieV13
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lol supcom isnt that good anyway its ok but I dont play it alot. But its a fanless cooler its gotta suck
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#27 deniiiii21
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Feel bad for you Marine because 8600gt runs perfect on stock PSU, thats the reason I always buy a EVGA brand so I got those 90 days to change my mind I can always upgrade it.

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lol supcom isnt that good anyway its ok but I dont play it alot. But its a fanless cooler its gotta suckLouieV13
Fanless Cooler = Sexay :D IMO.

But if i don't like SupCom i can always sell it and get another game lol

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[QUOTE="LouieV13"]lol supcom isnt that good anyway its ok but I dont play it alot. But its a fanless cooler its gotta suckAARONRULZ1

Fanless Cooler = Sexay :D IMO.

But if i don't like SupCom i can always sell it and get another game lol

But not the best trust me go with a fan cooler you wont regret it ;) and I think the XFX 8600GT comes with Company of heroes a better game!!
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]lol supcom isnt that good anyway its ok but I dont play it alot. But its a fanless cooler its gotta suckLouieV13

Fanless Cooler = Sexay :D IMO.

But if i don't like SupCom i can always sell it and get another game lol

But not the best trust me go with a fan cooler you wont regret it ;) and I think the XFX 8600GT comes with Company of heroes a better game!!

What's so good about a fan cooler on an already cool running card?

Also, SupCom >>>> CoH.

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#31 LouieV13
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[QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]lol supcom isnt that good anyway its ok but I dont play it alot. But its a fanless cooler its gotta suckWesker776

Fanless Cooler = Sexay :D IMO.

But if i don't like SupCom i can always sell it and get another game lol

But not the best trust me go with a fan cooler you wont regret it ;) and I think the XFX 8600GT comes with Company of heroes a better game!!

What's so good about a fan cooler on an already cool running card?

Also, SupCom >>>> CoH.

Oposite of everthing in that post
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#32 AARONRULZ1
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Lol Louie you'll never find proof that the Slient Pipe card's run hotter than hell :lol:

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#33 WhiteSnake5000
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8800s > any other nvidia card. lawl

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#34 AARONRULZ1
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8800s > any other nvidia card. lawl

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I just ****ing knew it! :roll:
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#35 WhiteSnake5000
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[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]

8800s > any other nvidia card. lawl

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I just ****ing knew it! :roll:

You can't defy my logic. It's true.
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#36 AARONRULZ1
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]

8800s > any other nvidia card. lawl

WhiteSnake5000

I just ****ing knew it! :roll:

You can't defy my logic. It's true.

There are acouple area's where the 8600GT actually BEATS the 8800GTS:

1. Power Consumption,the 8800GTS need's a high-end PSU to run,the 8600GT can easily run on a 300W PSU with 19A on the 12V rail.

2.Price,even though the 8800GTS DOES outperform the 8600GT,that extra performance is out of reach of most people like me because the 8800GTS starts at $280,the 8600GT starts at $113 (On newegg)

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#37 yoyo462001
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[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]

8800s > any other nvidia card. lawl

AARONRULZ1

I just ****ing knew it! :roll:

You can't defy my logic. It's true.

There are acouple area's where the 8600GT actually BEATS the 8800GTS:

1. Power Consumption,the 8800GTS need's a high-end PSU to run,the 8600GT can easily run on a 300W PSU with 19A on the 12V rail.

2.Price,even though the 8800GTS DOES outperform the 8600GT,that extra performance is out of reach of most people like me because the 8800GTS starts at $280,the 8600GT starts at $113 (On newegg)

the 8600GT/GTS is really for people who want performance for a good price and are on a bugdet. there both quality cards for really good prices.
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#38 WhiteSnake5000
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The 8800GTS wins hands down. Better value, because you get a lot lot more performance for your buck, even though it costs more. And Power consumption? IMO you shouldn't be getting a weak power supply to begin with, especially with 19amps. There are great PSUs with 36 amp on 12v for like $60 bucks that run 8800GTS perfectly fine. So no you don't need a high end psu.
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#39 AARONRULZ1
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the 8600GT/GTS is really for people who want performance for a good price and are on a bugdet. there both quality cards for really good prices.yoyo462001
Yeah its not like the 8600's are even worse than the GeForce FX card's,they're decent card's.
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#40 AARONRULZ1
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The 8800GTS wins hands down. Better value, because you get a lot lot more performance for your buck, even though it costs more. And Power consumption? IMO you shouldn't be getting a weak power supply to begin with, especially with 19amps. There are great PSUs with 36 amp on 12v for like $60 bucks that run 8800GTS perfectly fine. So no you don't need a high end psu.WhiteSnake5000
How much performance? Double the performance for a little more than double the price: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2970

At first they were ripoff's since there price's was $150 for the GT,$200 for the GTS,now there price's drop down so they're a better value now than when they was on launch day.

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#41 WhiteSnake5000
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8600 is magical card for n00bs. IMO. Why buy a damn 8600GT when you can get a X1950pro for 20 bucks more... lol I never understood it. OH MY GOD TEH DX10s... so far not one DX10 card has done very well in DX10, plus it will be years before DX10 is even... accepted into the mainstream, and by then what's the chance of the 8600GT keeping up? Slim. So it's better to get a card with more power than some medium end card with a very young technology like DX10. Or how about the X1950XT over the 8600GTS.

People who are buying the 8600s over the X1950 series are missing out.

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#42 yoyo462001
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lol your underestimating the card alot, theres no doubt that the 8600GT wil be able to play crysis whether it be on med settings or not, its still a good mainstream card. in most of the tests ive seen the 8600 beats the X1950 PRO.
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#43 Wesker776
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[QUOTE="Wesker776"][QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]lol supcom isnt that good anyway its ok but I dont play it alot. But its a fanless cooler its gotta suckLouieV13

Fanless Cooler = Sexay :D IMO.

But if i don't like SupCom i can always sell it and get another game lol

But not the best trust me go with a fan cooler you wont regret it ;) and I think the XFX 8600GT comes with Company of heroes a better game!!

What's so good about a fan cooler on an already cool running card?

Also, SupCom >>>> CoH.

Oposite of everthing in that post

You can't opposite a question. Ph41L.

Massive, immersive RTS from Chris Taylor >>>> Propaganda war game.

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#44 WhiteSnake5000
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Show me those tests. Show me where the 8600GT beats the X1950pro. Or where the 8600GTS beats the X1950XT.
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#45 AARONRULZ1
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Does ANY X1950Pro or XT come with a free Copy of SupCom? NO IT DOESN'T My friend

If SupCom wasn't included with that Gigabyte 8600GT,it would probably be like around $100,so it would be at least $35 cheaper than a X1950Pro,who would get a X1950Pro over a 8600GT with a GAME and a sexay cooler? and the 8600GT can get high settings in SupCom @ 1280x1024,it comes very close to the 7900GS in that game,and once you OC the card,you could get performance close to the X1950Pro for a bit less while still getting a game!

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#46 WhiteSnake5000
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Too bad it's an OEM disc. It would be nice with all the original packaging. But eh kinda not worth it, hardware comes before games. IMO. Plus I don't like SupCom, and I'm sure there are other people who don't either.
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#47 AARONRULZ1
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8600GTS is on par with the 7900GT

May not beat X1950XT,but its still a decent performing card :)

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#48 AARONRULZ1
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Too bad it's an OEM disc. It would be nice with all the original packaging. But eh kinda not worth it, hardware comes before games. IMO. Plus I don't like SupCom, and I'm sure there are other people who don't either.WhiteSnake5000
You can always sell the game :D
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#49 yoyo462001
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lol if you get free SUP COM then you would be an idiot not to get the card. good card with a good game for a good price, lol you cant go wrong.