8600gts performance results - very dissapointing

heres the link

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2231

I am not gonna bother with this card. Im gonna get a 7950GT instead becasue i cant get the 8800gts becasuse i dont have enough room.

I'm disappointed

Well, at least it runs better than the 7600 GT, as some would claim that the 8600 cant outperform

Can they do worse?supergamer1289

There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.AARONRULZ1

That might br becasue ATI can do HDR and AA better than nvidia cards 

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.Chris_53

That might br becasue ATI can do HDR and AA better than nvidia cards

no i think not. the 8XXX seeries cards can do HDR and AA at the same time. And i dont remember where i read this but Nvidia also uses new 128-bit HDR while other older cards use like 64-Bit HDR. 

well i guess when we see the 8900gt, that will be the bridge.  I mean originally they wanted to do an 8600Ultra and they should have. These are beta drivers and yes the performance is down, but its not going to improve drastically. I dont know what to think....if I had $200 to spend, I think I would save another $100 and get a 8800gts 320mb.

Infact you find PNY 320mb cards for $255usd now. I think nVidia is waiting for the 8900 series to bridge the gap myself. Now for DAMMIT to do there thing. I do like the high clocks and low temps tho...impressed with that.

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.Chris_53

That might br becasue ATI can do HDR and AA better than nvidia cards 

[QUOTE="Chris_53"]

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.AARONRULZ1

That might br becasue ATI can do HDR and AA better than nvidia cards 

[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="Chris_53"]

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.AARONRULZ1

That might br becasue ATI can do HDR and AA better than nvidia cards

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="Chris_53"]

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.Makari

That might br becasue ATI can do HDR and AA better than nvidia cards

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="Chris_53"]

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.AARONRULZ1

That might br becasue ATI can do HDR and AA better than nvidia cards

People, stop making assumptions.  I will clear some things up.

1) reason for 8xxxx series performance is bad, is because of lack of drivers.  The drivers are a HUGE key to the performance.  I am able to increase my Average FPS by 5-10 frames by simply changing drivers.  And everyone knows (at least computer tech people) that Nvidia isnt supplying half decent drivers right now for the g80 core.

2) Second, this is DX9 mode, since the cards are having to work around the 9 and 10 modes, I am going to suggest that these cards might not be enough for the task load.

3) DX10 is supposed to be more efficient and easier to code, so I am still standing behind the fact that these cards may indeed prove you guys wrong when DX10 hits mainstream.

Time will tell. 

There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.AARONRULZ1

x1950xtx actually almost always wipes the floor with the 8800 gts because the shaders are more efficient on it

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.inyourface_12

x1950xtx actually almost always wipes the floor with the 8800 gts because the shaders are more efficient on it

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.AARONRULZ1

x1950xtx actually almost always wipes the floor with the 8800 gts because the shaders are more efficient on it

go to many of thgame benchmarks and you will see.  see oblivion and half life 2 episode one especially

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=608&model2=585&chart=210

LAWL OMG tomshardware.  THat is a joke.  Go on the forums, stay there for at least a month, then come back to us.  You will know that site is a complete joke.  Heck look at their review on the Grindhouse.  LAWL.Sepheroth101

they may be a joke on articles but i have always found there benchies to be dead on

are you sure? read on. I remember their review on the 7900gs xt and when they compared it to other cards, the 7900gs xt got like 20 something frames average on FEAR on the same settings I have it, and my card does 50 average.  LAWL.  Tom's stuff is still not very accurate.  I noticed too, he deletes his articles that are so horribly wrong too (the nvidia video card reviews on the 7600gt).

Also, the site was screautinized for a bit because many found that he was giving the better edge to those who payed more.

He is one I do not trust. 

So have I tried, and I found that I had to email him a couple of times to tell him to redo his tests.   You know, I do indeed like the chart for 1 thing though, it gives us a round down.  But do not always trust the reviewer, cause they could have made a mistake in the end, and we need to always know what other stuff is going on too, like software wise, as there are impact in performance due to software!   But its a good speculation.

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.inyourface_12

x1950xtx actually almost always wipes the floor with the 8800 gts because the shaders are more efficient on it

go to many of thgame benchmarks and you will see.  see oblivion and half life 2 episode one especially

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=608&model2=585&chart=210

heres the link

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2231

 

I am not gonna bother with this card. Im gonna get a 7950GT instead becasue i cant get the 8800gts becasuse i dont have enough room.

Chris_53

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.inyourface_12

x1950xtx actually almost always wipes the floor with the 8800 gts because the shaders are more efficient on it

go to many of thgame benchmarks and you will see. see oblivion and half life 2 episode one especially

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=608&model2=585&chart=210

yes, but judging from history on both AMD and ATI, DAMMIT is going to not keep their word. ATI, when releasing something, is usually very late, and in very low productions, and I can see the same thing happening here. From what I heard, DAMMIT is doing a hard launch, meaning that we will see from all of low end to high end video cards all on the same day. But time will tell.Sepheroth101

LMAO, I already lost count on how many times I have had to correct you.

A hardlaunch is when a product is launched and is available to the masses immediately. It is not, as you implied, when a whole family of products is launched.

ATi tends to release things late because they take the time to do it right, not rush stuff out like Nvidia. Now with DAAMIT in control, they will bring even better quality products to the market.

People, stop making assumptions.  I will clear some things up.

1) reason for 8xxxx series performance is bad, is because of lack of drivers.  The drivers are a HUGE key to the performance.  I am able to increase my Average FPS by 5-10 frames by simply changing drivers.  And everyone knows (at least computer tech people) that Nvidia isnt supplying half decent drivers right now for the g80 core.

Drivers only have a limited impact on performance. In teh end it's the hardware that counts. People expecting the mid-range 8x00 series to overthrown the high-end directx 9 cards are mistaken. You cannot realistically expect a 200$ card to be better than a 350$ card.

2) Second, this is DX9 mode, since the cards are having to work around the 9 and 10 modes, I am going to suggest that these cards might not be enough for the task load.

Task load? If the card can't even handle directx 9 there is no point in it since there isn't anything else than directx 9 out.

3) DX10 is supposed to be more efficient and easier to code, so I am still standing behind the fact that these cards may indeed prove you guys wrong when DX10 hits mainstream.

All directx 10 suppositions have yet to be demonstrated. Directx 10 performance is still a big question mark.

 

Time will tell. 

Sepheroth101

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.AARONRULZ1

x1950xtx actually almost always wipes the floor with the 8800 gts because the shaders are more efficient on it

go to many of thgame benchmarks and you will see.  see oblivion and half life 2 episode one especially

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=608&model2=585&chart=210

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]There is NO way a X1950XT can beat a 8800GTS 320MB,so those benchies aren't very accurate.ziil

x1950xtx actually almost always wipes the floor with the 8800 gts because the shaders are more efficient on it

go to many of thgame benchmarks and you will see. see oblivion and half life 2 episode one especially

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=608&model2=585&chart=210

more scores:

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38769

 these ones are lower than the others because here they use a stock card