8800GTS vs.9800GT

wich one do you think is better there both the same price so any suggestions?

I have the 8800gt and asked the same question. Supposedly they are the same as far as the performance, however the 9800gt has a feature that uses less power when not exercising graphically challenging software.

yes but the 8800GTS no the 800GT

the 9800gt is an 8800gt with some minor new features like a newer version of purevideo and draws a bit less power but other than that it has the exact same performance of an 8800gt so the 8800gts ( assuming we are talking for the 512mb model and not the 320 or 640 mb models since those are based on an older and slower gpu) is about 10%faster ( should in fact be almost as fast as a 9800gtx)

yes but the 8800GTS no the 800GT

zahyr

Oh - my bad, in that case then, the 8800gts is slighty better [in terms of performance] than the 8800gt, so I guess there ya go :)

Further, you could Google 8800gts vs. 9800gt..

A model of 8800GTS with 512 MB of RAM is indeed faster than 9800GT, but 640MB with old architecture isn't. I heard people struggling playing Crysis at High with GTS 640 at 1280x1024, while my old 8800GT did Very High perfectly. It is a much better card, much more optimized for DX10 and better in everything overall. So, it is a lie that 8800GTS is faster.

So is it an 8800Gt or GTS? If it's a GT they are the same exact cards just rebranded. You can actuallyflashthe bios of an 8800GT and turn it into a 9800GT. If your talking about an 8800GTS it is slightly better give or take a few fps in games, but nothing extroadinary. My opinion is go for the 9800GT, because they still have good support and in the future instead of buying a new card for $400 you can buy another 9800GT and SLI them which will give you similar results to the $400 card. Maybe not the same, but you will save a ton of cash and your performance will drastically increase. I had 2 in SLI(Overclocked) before and I could max Crysis at Very High in dx9 and get 50 fps at 1680 x 1050.

8800GTS-512 is better than the 8800GT and 9800GT. 9800GT is obviously better than the 8800GT but still not better than the 8800GTS-512.gamer082009

9800gt isn't better than the 8800gt, they are pretty much exactly the same, the 8800gts 512mb is better than those and is a 9800gtx/+/250gts with lower clock speeds and larger die size.

9800GT Is Less consuming Wats and Is Less hot Allow Overclocking and it Better then 8800GT by enough % but it still obvious that 8800GT / 9800Gt are Pretty similar in performances but now today you can get a 250GTS (9800GTX+ improved)

AND 8800GTS 512MEG Beating a 9800GTX+/250 GTS 1GB in any game / benchmark ? Hell no Goleasguy where ever you get ur information plz show me where it isyou'r getting drown in biased information http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_9800gt/6.htm

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/06/19/gigabyte-geforce-gts-250-1gb-review/4
But don't you have a 250GTS in ur Sig topic Creator? If it the 1Gb it Better then most of 9800GTX+ overclocked but only by a small difference of 1-2fps and on top of that it consume much less

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3523&p=6


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gainward-gf-gts250-2048le_8.html#sect1

usa dollar ? how much memory ? i would probabely get this instead
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161275

[QUOTE="gamer082009"]8800GTS-512 is better than the 8800GT and 9800GT. 9800GT is obviously better than the 8800GT but still not better than the 8800GTS-512.goleafsguy

9800gt isn't better than the 8800gt, they are pretty much exactly the same, the 8800gts 512mb is better than those and is a 9800gtx/+/250gts with lower clock speeds and larger die size.

[QUOTE="goleafsguy"]

[QUOTE="gamer082009"]8800GTS-512 is better than the 8800GT and 9800GT. 9800GT is obviously better than the 8800GT but still not better than the 8800GTS-512.gamer082009

9800gt isn't better than the 8800gt, they are pretty much exactly the same, the 8800gts 512mb is better than those and is a 9800gtx/+/250gts with lower clock speeds and larger die size.

Actualy you are wrong my friend, no desktop Nvidia card has dx10.1 support and the reality is that the majority of 9800gts sold are rebranded cards that were manufactured as 8800gt's, they are clocked exactly the same there is no way the 9800gt can perform better.

soo if i overclok it a little it will perform the same as a 9800GTX+?zahyr

Yup, if you can get it to 9800gtx+ clock speeds it will perform exactly the same.

[QUOTE="gamer082009"]

[QUOTE="goleafsguy"]

9800gt isn't better than the 8800gt, they are pretty much exactly the same, the 8800gts 512mb is better than those and is a 9800gtx/+/250gts with lower clock speeds and larger die size.

goleafsguy

Actualy you are wrong my friend, no desktop Nvidia card has dx10.1 support and the reality is that the majority of 9800gts sold are rebranded cards that were manufactured as 8800gt's, they are clocked exactly the same there is no way the 9800gt can perform better.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_9800gt/6.htm do i have to re-send this source that proove 9800GT better then 8800GT!?

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_9800gt/6.htm do i have to re-send this source that proove 9800GT better then 8800GT!?

marcthpro

[QUOTE="gamer082009"]You are WRONG. The 9800GT is better than the 8800GT..here's why. The 9800GT runs cooler and consumes less power (which may allow you to take overclocks a little further), it has DX 10.1 (i know it may not be used due to DX11, but still can't be ignored)) and it performs slightly better. So putting all those things together proves that it's better. So I'll say it again, the 9800GT is OBVIOUSLY better than the 8800GT!

Actualy you are wrong my friend, no desktop Nvidia card has dx10.1 support and the reality is that the majority of 9800gts sold are rebranded cards that were manufactured as 8800gt's, they are clocked exactly the same there is no way the 9800gt can perform better.

if you compared both.. on several game.. what did it conclude ? that the fps on 9800GT IS higher specially if you overclock 9800GT May I remind you that 9800GT IS About 20-30C Less Hot then 8800GT & is Smaller : consume less

so i come to conclusion those are Reason why it Allow a Fair Overclocking and that overclocking make it Either Equal to superrior of 8800GTS 640mb in performances

while 9800GTX / 9800GTX+ will have Better Clocking and with after market cooler will Crush 8800GTX even if it a small 3-4fps in 1280x1024 / 1680x1050 / 1920x1200 it is a Superior of 8800GT / 8800GT

but by any mean : never replace a 8800GT with a 9800GT it don't worth the candel unless you'r mr Ecological dude that only play WoW and want to save 30wats per hour lol

[QUOTE="gamer082009"][QUOTE="goleafsguy"]

Actualy you are wrong my friend, no desktop Nvidia card has dx10.1 support and the reality is that the majority of 9800gts sold are rebranded cards that were manufactured as 8800gt's, they are clocked exactly the same there is no way the 9800gt can perform better.

regnaladon

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_9800gt/6.htm do i have to re-send this source that proove 9800GT better then 8800GT!?

marcthpro

Those benchies show them to have the exact same frame rates, and I do anknowledge that SOME 9800gt cards have some benefits over 8800gt cards, but the majority or at least a very significant amount of them are simply 8800gt cards renamed to 9800gt to make them sounds newer...the entire Nvidia 9 series was completely useless, the only thing that came out of it that was somewhate new and interesting ws the 9800gx2 which was still just two 8800gts cards.

Hey guys stop! 8800GT is more or less the same card as 9800GT. It's not exactly the same, but it is very close to be such. They perform pretty close so this is the only thing that matters. End of conclusion.

yeah i know that while you know 9800GTX+ / 1GB 250GTS is pretty much stronger then 8800GTX because of it overclocking headroom we call that a small improvement over Series 8600/8800GTX :

but I know that Series 9 Was bad and evil to sell 9600GT Because it like 8600GT But With more fps which is already a 7600GT XXX edition not extra-overclocked but with a 3-5 more fps and better overclocking headroom still i find like you that the Series 9 is useless :P but to anyone who

...but now today you can get a 250GTS (9800GTX+ improved)...

marcthpro

The 9800GTX+ and GTS250 are exactly the same performance wise, unless driver optimizations come into play. Both have the same reference clock at 738MHz.

You are WRONG. The 9800GT is better than the 8800GT..here's why. The 9800GT runs cooler and consumes less power (which may allow you to take overclocks a little further)...

gamer082009

Yes and no. Many of the older initial release 9800GT's were based off the older 65nm fabrication, and consumed exactly the same amount of power as their older Geforce 8 counterparts. The newer revision 55nm revision consumes less power.

Also, there are quite a few non-reference 8800GT's with aftermarket coolers that keep the card a lot cooler than with the stock heatsink.

I have the 8800gt and asked the same question. Supposedly they are the same as far as the performance, however the 9800gt has a feature that uses less power when not exercising graphically challenging software.

Xsan3

[QUOTE="Xsan3"]

I have the 8800gt and asked the same question. Supposedly they are the same as far as the performance, however the 9800gt has a feature that uses less power when not exercising graphically challenging software.

polarwrath11

Some of the Geforce cards lowered the clocks (and possibly voltages) when idle. AFAIK, the Geforce 8 series didn't have this feature.