8800gtx or the x2900xt

ATI x2900xt

core: 750

memory clock: 1650

stream processors pixels : 320

8800

core: average (500) fastest (630)

memory (average) 1700 fastest (2100)

stream processors pixels : 128

I dont understand.... the ati is so much faster but which is the better buy?>

ATI x2900xt

core: 750

memory clock: 1650

stream processors pixels : 320

8800

core: average (500) fastest (630)

memory (average) 1700 fastest (2100)

stream processors pixels : 128

 

I dont understand.... the ati is so much faster but which is the better buy?>

xXxKiLLERxXx87

8800GTX.

X2900XT has 64 Shader processors 8800GTX has 128 Shader Processors & they were faster than X2900XT Shader processors.

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ATI x2900xt

core: 750

memory clock: 1650

stream processors pixels : 320

8800

core: average (500) fastest (630)

memory (average) 1700 fastest (2100)

stream processors pixels : 128

 

I dont understand.... the ati is so much faster but which is the better buy?>

LahiruD

8800GTX.

X2900XT has 64 Shader processors 8800GTX has 128 Shader Processors & they were faster than X2900XT Shader processors.

64 when they're in groups of five, but 320 altogether. They're little bit more tricky to program for than NVIDIAs straight out method, but if done right, yeilds high performance.

Anyway, depends on how much you're willing to spend. Also, make sure your PSU has enough juice to power both of these cards! 

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ATI x2900xt

core: 750

memory clock: 1650

stream processors pixels : 320

8800

core: average (500) fastest (630)

memory (average) 1700 fastest (2100)

stream processors pixels : 128

 

I dont understand.... the ati is so much faster but which is the better buy?>

Wesker776

8800GTX.

X2900XT has 64 Shader processors 8800GTX has 128 Shader Processors & they were faster than X2900XT Shader processors.

64 when they're in groups of five, but 320 altogether. They're little bit more tricky to program for than NVIDIAs straight out method, but if done right, yeilds high performance.

Anyway, depends on how much you're willing to spend. Also, make sure your PSU has enough juice to power both of these cards!

Yes I agree but if you are telling like that GTX has 256

if you love driver problems then go with ATI :D-SaI

neither, buy a car if u dont have onekbubba92

That is the third option. :D  If you have the money, go for the 8800GTX.  If your on a budget, get the 2900XT.

if you love driver problems then go with ATI :D-SaI

True I have ATI and it does get on my nerves hence nvidia seems to be the preffered card in all of the games.  

[QUOTE="-SaI"]if you love driver problems then go with ATI :D_SKatEDiRt_

True I have ATI and it does get on my nerves hence nvidia seems to be the preffered card in all of the games.

Only because Nvidia pays a lot of money to the devs and on equipment, to get their name in the game.

Get the HD 2950 XT/XTX, when that comes out. That will definitely trump the 8800 GTX, though I have a feeling by the time that comes out, Nvidia has something ready by then.jfelisario

Recommending a nonexistent (as of now) product is a bit pointless, no? :P

That said, the 8800GTX beats the HD 2900XT by around 10-30% except in Rainbow Six Vegas, where the 2900XT wins by about 2% or something.

The 8800GTX also beats the 2900XT by quite a margin in two (read: the only ones available) DX10 benchmarks.

It's very possible that driver problems are holding the 2900XT back though.

[QUOTE="jfelisario"]Get the HD 2950 XT/XTX, when that comes out. That will definitely trump the 8800 GTX, though I have a feeling by the time that comes out, Nvidia has something ready by then.cqdemal

Recommending a nonexistent (as of now) product is a bit pointless, no? :P

That said, the 8800GTX beats the HD 2900XT by around 10-30% except in Rainbow Six Vegas, where the 2900XT wins by about 2% or something.

The 8800GTX also beats the 2900XT by quite a margin in two (read: the only ones available) DX10 benchmarks.

It's very possible that driver problems are holding the 2900XT back though.

Don't expect your own GTX to see that sort of performance as those DX10 benches...
Nvidia quickly made those drivers to secretly send to certain reviewers that had those DX10 benches.

[QUOTE="jfelisario"]Get the HD 2950 XT/XTX, when that comes out. That will definitely trump the 8800 GTX, though I have a feeling by the time that comes out, Nvidia has something ready by then.cqdemal

Recommending a nonexistent (as of now) product is a bit pointless, no? :P

That said, the 8800GTX beats the HD 2900XT by around 10-30% except in Rainbow Six Vegas, where the 2900XT wins by about 2% or something.

The 8800GTX also beats the 2900XT by quite a margin in two (read: the only ones available) DX10 benchmarks.

It's very possible that driver problems are holding the 2900XT back though.

Don't expect your own GTX to see that sort of performance as those DX10 benches...

Nvidia quickly made those drivers to secretly send to certain reviewers that had those DX10 benches.LordEC911

Hmm. Oddly enough, I'm playing the Lost Planet DX10 demo and getting 48 and 44 fps in the two tests, which is quite in line with these numbers...

By the way, those 'secret' 158.42/43 drivers have just been released officially.

the drawback is the HD 2900 XT is too hot for liquid nitrogen at a certain point!!jfelisario

:shock: Oh. My. God.

Hope the 65nm R600 kicks things up a notch though. Lack of competition is never good for us poor buyers.

IMO I would wait for ATI & Nvidia to fix thier Vista support/Drivers and so forth :P othwerwise im looking at the ATI 2600XT GDDR3/4 ;)Glordit

I wish either NV/ATI would make a midrange card with 256-bit memory. The 8600GTS/GT is kinda underwhelming.

[QUOTE="Glordit"]IMO I would wait for ATI & Nvidia to fix thier Vista support/Drivers and so forth :P othwerwise im looking at the ATI 2600XT GDDR3/4 ;)cqdemal

I wish either NV/ATI would make a midrange card with 256-bit memory. The 8600GTS/GT is kinda underwhelming.

its not gonna make much difference.... what's in order is to have half of the 8800 GTX sp amount = 64 + 256 bit memory, not the current 128 + 32 sp on the card, but I can imagine this will eat through 8800 gts 320 and 640 sales, alot of people seem to be bumping up to at least the 8800 gts 320 because of its awesome price. 

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[QUOTE="Glordit"]IMO I would wait for ATI & Nvidia to fix thier Vista support/Drivers and so forth :P othwerwise im looking at the ATI 2600XT GDDR3/4 ;)jfelisario

I wish either NV/ATI would make a midrange card with 256-bit memory. The 8600GTS/GT is kinda underwhelming.

its not gonna make much difference.... what's in order is to have half of the 8800 GTX sp amount = 64 + 256 bit memory, not the current 128 + 32 sp on the card, but I can imagine this will eat through 8800 gts 320 and 640 sales, alot of people seem to be bumping up to at least the 8800 gts 320 because of its awesome price.

8800GTS 320 price is awesome indeed.

What happened to that 8800GS card mentioned in one of the release notes for a previous driver version? The release notes for 158.43 drivers no longer have it listed.

neither, buy a car if u dont have onekbubba92

wow, what a haelpful post..... SARCASUM! ZOMG

i would go wit hthe Ati mate, its cheaper. 

yeah i've been thinking about the GS too, wonder where it issaifiii

Proven to be fake, Nvidia said its just a typo in their release notes in one of the drivers... 8800 GS supposed to be 8800 GTS. 

[QUOTE="Glordit"]IMO I would wait for ATI & Nvidia to fix thier Vista support/Drivers and so forth :P othwerwise im looking at the ATI 2600XT GDDR3/4 ;)cqdemal

I wish either NV/ATI would make a midrange card with 256-bit memory. The 8600GTS/GT is kinda underwhelming.

well do not worry because ati will also be releasing its rv670. it will be called the hd 2900pro. and will only have a slower clcok than the 2900xt.

[QUOTE="saifiii"]yeah i've been thinking about the GS too, wonder where it isjfelisario

Proven to be fake, Nvidia said its just a typo in their release notes in one of the drivers... 8800 GS supposed to be 8800 GTS.

Awww. The gap between 8600GTS and 8800GTS is just way to wide not to fill it with something though.

Maybe DAAMIT would push out something along the lines of an HD 2900 Pro/XL/GT/GTO/GTO2/whatever. 

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[QUOTE="saifiii"]yeah i've been thinking about the GS too, wonder where it iscqdemal

Proven to be fake, Nvidia said its just a typo in their release notes in one of the drivers... 8800 GS supposed to be 8800 GTS.

Awww. The gap between 8600GTS and 8800GTS is just way to wide not to fill it with something though.

Maybe DAAMIT would push out something along the lines of an HD 2900 Pro/XL/GT/GTO/GTO2/whatever.

price gap is manageable though, at least the 8800 gts 320 mb version! If you can spare more cash, easily, just bump up to the 8800 gts, now that they are at a crazy price point. 

well do not worry because ati will also be releasing its rv670. it will be called the hd 2900pro. and will only have a slower clcok than the 2900xt. harooon

and a 256mb interface...