A mouse question for SERIOUS GAMERS ONLY

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#1 VicGI
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Choose between the 3 mouse below. Rank which one of them are your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice, and explain IN DETAIL why: A. Genius NetScroll G500 Laser - http://www.geniusnet.com/geniusOnline/online.portal?_nfpb=true&productPortlet_actionOverride=%2Fportlets%2FproductArea%2Fcategory%2FqueryPro&_windowLabel=productPortlet&productPortletproductId=1084009&_pageLabel=productPage&test=portlet-action Genius NetScroll G500 Laser review - http://verdisreviews.com/reviews/genius-netscroll-g500-laser-mouse-review/ B. Lexma AM546 Nano Laser Deluxe Mouse - http://www.lexmausa.com/products/ProductDetail.asp?SwitchFunctionID={D66D0E01-384D-45F9-9BCD-B2BFF2203CF0}&id={F1F9D035-B3A7-4619-BA59-544BD63DB7A7} C. Nortek Cyber 2400 - http://www.nortekonline.com/EMEA/EN/cyber-2400-gaming-mouse.asp
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#2 darx55
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true gamers play with 100 dpi mouse ;)
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#3 aura_enchanted
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razer deathadder ftw!

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#4 VicGI
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No, no Razer, no Logitech, no Microsoft SIDEWINDER. Just choose between the 3 choices given.
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#5 rock_solid
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opinions on mice don't matter unless you use the same grip as the person giving you advice. i use fingertip grip.

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#6 VicGI
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Though grip is important, I don't think it is the determining factor about gaming mices... Try playing CRYSIS WARHEAD with a mouse with a good grip...but this mouse has some ugly responses some of which are actually malfunction responses and you'd know what I mean.
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#7 shoot-first
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Lexma AM546 Nano Laser Deluxe Mouse like I told you earlier in the #g4tv channel. :P Looks very comfortable!

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#8 VicGI
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Er...is this KnuxSonic?
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#9 shoot-first
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Er...is this KnuxSonic?VicGI

No, West. ;)

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#10 rock_solid
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[QUOTE="VicGI"]Though grip is important, I don't think it is the determining factor about gaming mices... Try playing CRYSIS WARHEAD with a mouse with a good grip...but this mouse has some ugly responses some of which are actually malfunction responses and you'd know what I mean.

by grip i mean how you hold the mouse in your hand. it's the #1 most important factor, imo. mice are made with certain grips in mind.
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#11 VicGI
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What if you can't target well with this mouse? What then?
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#12 WWII_Warrior
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GO to a bestbuy/computer store and try out the different mice to get a feel.
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#13 VicGI
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...i'm going to cry... Look, I'm asking you guys to choose between the 3 mouse I listed with the links. That's all. I've tried different mouse in different shops and it comes down to three (3) choices. And no, I will not spend too much money on a simple yet necessary device like the mouse, hence no Razer, no Logitech, no Sidewinders. If money wasn't a problem, I would get without question, the Logitech G9. But money is a problem, and I did my homework and it comes down to 3 choices. I just need the input of serious gamers about the 3 mouse, if they are to choose between the 3. That's all.
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#14 NSR34GTR
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razer deathadder ftw!

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i have this. its amazing
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#15 theragu40
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The reason you aren't getting the replies you want is that these three mice are all very obscure and you are not likely to find anyone that has any experience with these brands at all, let alone these three particular models. Just from looking at them, I would say the Lexma, simply because it appears to be a direct ripoff of a very comfortable microsoft-branded mouse. If the mouse doesn't feel good in your hand, then it's not any good, no matter how sensitive it says it is. In my opinion the other two are 1. uglier and 2. look less comfortable. So between those three, go for the Lexma, IMO. That being said, there is probably a reason these mice are not well known, and there is definitely a reason why Razer and Logitech are well known. I am a Razer user myself, but both companies make high quality mice that are comfortable, durable, and precise. You don't have that guarantee with an unproven company, and one random good review doesn't make it any better. Believe me, I am sympathetic to budget constraints, but you are really probably better off saving up a little bit and getting a quality mouse instead of getting a knock-off "gaming" mouse that may be of lesser quality. In the past I have used knockoff components in an effort to save money, but it always comes back to bite me when I have to buy another one because the first one broke after heavy usage. If you absolutely won't consider another brand, then get the Lexma. If you want my honest recommendation, go for something like the Razer Diamondback. It can be had regularly for under $40, and it sometimes goes on sale for under $20 (I got mine for $19). Search deals sites, and search ebay. In the end you'll be a happier user, because you'll have a quality product.
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#16 Threesixtyci
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I just buy what's cheapest. A better mouse is not going to make you a better player.....
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#17 superchronik
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The Lexma by far as the others don't have thumb buttons, I couldn't live without thumb buttons over any other feature.

I didn't notice before but the Lexma has a germ killing coating too, thats awesome! That makes it pretty much a no-brainer imo, although I do have OCD and am very paranoid about germs :P

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#18 Too_tight_shoes
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Death Adder... which reminds me I need a new one Im stuck with this seiteck :S, lost my Death Adder :(.
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#19 GazaAli
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man just get a normal optical Gigbyte mouse,its superb.and CHEAP.
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#20 RedxSniper
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I love how he's said about 4 times, nothing other then those 3 and people still comment other then those three.
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#21 theragu40
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I just buy what's cheapest. A better mouse is not going to make you a better player.....Threesixtyci
Simply false. Your mouse is the main way you interact with your computer. Why not spend a little extra for something that is quality? I will never go back to a regular mouse. I can't stand using them, and it absolutely makes me a better player and more efficient user of my computer.
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#22 johnny27
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[QUOTE="Threesixtyci"]I just buy what's cheapest. A better mouse is not going to make you a better player.....theragu40
Simply false. Your mouse is the main way you interact with your computer. Why not spend a little extra for something that is quality? I will never go back to a regular mouse. I can't stand using them, and it absolutely makes me a better player and more efficient user of my computer.

i agree the quality of the mouse can make a big difference in games espeically fps
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I love how he's said about 4 times, nothing other then those 3 and people still comment other then those three.RedxSniper
because i really never heard of these brands.
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#24 AzNs3nSaT1On
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after owning the razer lachesis and eventually the razer mamba, I just can't recommend any mice with
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#25 VicGI
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I appreciate all your input. Now I feel like I'm getting somewhere. True, the 3 choices that I posted here are not as popular as Logitech or Razer, and believe me, I can get Razer by just paying the distributor price. Having said that, the reason why I am not getting these expensive brands is 1. I just spent ubber amounts of money buying an nVIDIA GTX295. 2. I had to buy a new motherboard because I didn't realize that the motherboard I bought last year will not fit the GTX295 I purchased. Now if I am going to buy a mouse that costs as much as my new ASUS P5Q SE2 mboard, forget it! :D Also, these 3 are not so obscure, at least not here in Asia. Genius is a pretty standard brand. You see it everywhere here and its been in the market since I was in grade 7, i think. Nortek is a bit new, but you see their products often enough in shops all over the city. LEXMA is new, but then its a division of SAMSUNG. And SAMSUNG has proven itself in my mother's household time and time again. Heck we have a SAMSUNG HDTV, the keyboard I am using for my PC is a SAMSUNG I bought...like 13 years ago, and it is still going strong. I appreciate the input that, no matter how sensitive a mouse is, if it isn't comfortable, it won't make much difference. That really makes sense. And besides, between a mouse that is 2400dpi and a mouse that is 2000dpi...does 400dpi more make much difference?
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#26 Dr_Brocoli
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[QUOTE="VicGI"]No, no Razer, no Logitech, no Microsoft SIDEWINDER. Just choose between the 3 choices given.

Okay so the best gaming mouse companies are out and the mice you linked are not that great, now what?
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#27 VicGI
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Now you choose between the 3 choices I posted. That's the challenge of this question you guys. If I put Razer or Logitech in the choices, then it wouldn't be so much of a challenge won't it? It would be an easy, no-brainer choice. "Ooh, get the Razer Death Adder!" "No, get the Logitech G9, or atleast get the G5!" etc. etc. But what if you don't have those choices? Ah! Then you get to really think. :D So far, from all the info I have gathered including in the other forums where I posted this (https://forums.comodo.com/general_discussion_off_topic_anything_and_everything/a_mouse_question_for_gamers-t46062.0.html), its been between the LEXMA and the NORTEK. Now, with all the inputs I have been getting here, so far the odds are leaning towards LEXMA. Yesterday it was leaning towards NORTEK, it being the one with the highest dpi (2400dpi maximum).
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#28 superchronik
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Personally I think that anything above 2000 DPI is worthless as it is too sensitive, I find 2000 DPI to be pretty much perfect. Anything above just seems gimmicky. I'd still vote the Lexma by far.

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#29 VicGI
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Another vote for LEXMA, my goodness! Ok then, seems like I've got all the input I need to satisfy my Obsessive Compulsive behavior. Thanks you guys. This exercise was really more about me making the best informed choice/decision than it was about me buying a mouse. Again, thanks!
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#30 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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I love how he's said about 4 times, nothing other then those 3 and people still comment other then those three.RedxSniper

So the Razer Death adder then?

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#31 VicGI
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No! No Razer Death Adder! Like I said, I won't be spending as much money on a mouse that costs around as much as my new ASUS PQ5 SE2. What's with you guys and snakes? Or rather...mouse snakes...mouse that has a snake's name...It's a mouse, why give it a snake's name? Why not give it a mouse's name, like, Razer Mickey or Razer Jerry...yeah, that'll sell. :D My cousin's got an anaconda. It eats 1 chick a week. Its really really scaly...and dry. Dry and scaly. Anyway. I tried using my Logitech M-UAG120 laptop mouse on my gaming PC, and I was able to fight more decently in CRYSIS WARHEAD...was able to place much better shots (some were headshots) on enemy nanosuits and the alien exosuits. If I can do that with the itsy-bitsy Logitech Optical mouse designed for laptops, I believe the LEXMA is good enough. And besides, I'm not that much of a gamer...yet.
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#32 Threesixtyci
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[QUOTE="Threesixtyci"]I just buy what's cheapest. A better mouse is not going to make you a better player.....theragu40
Simply false. Your mouse is the main way you interact with your computer. Why not spend a little extra for something that is quality? I will never go back to a regular mouse. I can't stand using them, and it absolutely makes me a better player and more efficient user of my computer.

...and I suppose you also believe that a better pen makes you write better, too.
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#33 opamando
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[QUOTE="theragu40"][QUOTE="Threesixtyci"]I just buy what's cheapest. A better mouse is not going to make you a better player.....Threesixtyci
Simply false. Your mouse is the main way you interact with your computer. Why not spend a little extra for something that is quality? I will never go back to a regular mouse. I can't stand using them, and it absolutely makes me a better player and more efficient user of my computer.

...and I suppose you also believe that a better pen makes you write better, too.

Actually yes it can. If the pen is very poorly made a better one could be smoother and make for nicer/easier writing. Heck what if the pen leaks, then a better pen would really help.

I see what you are saying, and while I don't think "gaming" mice are needed, they are nice and offer features that to some are more than worth the extra cost.

I was at a yard sale the other day and saw an old Dell ball mouse, only $0.25, want me to try and get it for you? Hard to find a mouse cheaper than that :P

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#34 rebirthofman
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I say the Lexma. The Nortek looks like all kinds of dead skin would get caught in the little rib grip and the other looks cheap imo.

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#35 theragu40
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[QUOTE="Threesixtyci"][QUOTE="theragu40"] Simply false. Your mouse is the main way you interact with your computer. Why not spend a little extra for something that is quality? I will never go back to a regular mouse. I can't stand using them, and it absolutely makes me a better player and more efficient user of my computer.opamando

...and I suppose you also believe that a better pen makes you write better, too.

Actually yes it can. If the pen is very poorly made a better one could be smoother and make for nicer/easier writing. Heck what if the pen leaks, then a better pen would really help.

I see what you are saying, and while I don't think "gaming" mice are needed, they are nice and offer features that to some are more than worth the extra cost.

I was at a yard sale the other day and saw an old Dell ball mouse, only $0.25, want me to try and get it for you? Hard to find a mouse cheaper than that :P

Thank you, that's pretty much what I would have said. Beat me to it :)
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#36 Frenzyd109
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[QUOTE="VicGI"]No! No Razer Death Adder! Like I said, I won't be spending as much money on a mouse that costs around as much as my new ASUS PQ5 SE2. What's with you guys and snakes? Or rather...mouse snakes...mouse that has a snake's name...It's a mouse, why give it a snake's name? Why not give it a mouse's name, like, Razer Mickey or Razer Jerry...yeah, that'll sell. :D My cousin's got an anaconda. It eats 1 chick a week. Its really really scaly...and dry. Dry and scaly. Anyway. I tried using my Logitech M-UAG120 laptop mouse on my gaming PC, and I was able to fight more decently in CRYSIS WARHEAD...was able to place much better shots (some were headshots) on enemy nanosuits and the alien exosuits. If I can do that with the itsy-bitsy Logitech Optical mouse designed for laptops, I believe the LEXMA is good enough. And besides, I'm not that much of a gamer...yet.

YES! Yes Razor Death adder!
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#37 imprezawrx500
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I really don't see why you need these highend mice. They just make you turn to fast making you turn the sensitivity down to almost zero on some games. Any decent 5 button mouse does the job fine.
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#38 theragu40
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I really don't see why you need these highend mice. They just make you turn to fast making you turn the sensitivity down to almost zero on some games. Any decent 5 button mouse does the job fine. imprezawrx500
The real draw is the DPI on a high end mouse. You turn the speed way down, but the DPI is still quite high, allowing for a very high level of accuracy. Crappier mice will have a little cursor jump in them as you move across the screen. A high quality mouse will never, ever do this. It will perfectly respond to your every millimeter of movement.
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#39 SKai5er
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Out of interest I'm guessing 'pro' gamers also have low sensitivity on the mouse with loads of desk space for moving the mouse around right?