About Battlefield 2

Did anybody else feel that Battlefield 2 was much overrated? I personally did. There are a host of problems with the game that take me out of the experience.

• Lag. I know this may just be on my end, but I found that lag was a big issue when playing the larger 64 player games. Usually it wasn't horrible, but it was there constantly. Some people would jump all over the place or vehicles would just skip from place to place. I know to stay in low ping games, but finding them sometimes could be difficult.
• The game browser was slow and clunky. This is frustrating when trying to find a good game to play. Clicking on a server made your computer fetch the details of that server. That would take a second or two. During that second or two you couldn't do anything. Usually it isn't a problem, but after awhile it seems to get annoying.
• The hitboxes are absolutely horrible. They seem to lag constantly behind the player. Moving targets would often seem to be impossible to hit on occasions
• The guns were way to weak and extremely inaccurate. I cant count the number of times I have been prone, put my crosshair on an enemy, and slowly fired shot after shot, relineing the shot each time and still not hit anything but air. Often I would aim at proned targets and hit them only once out of an entire clip.
• Grenades are way overpowered. Seriously, in infantry only matches the amount of grenades spammed is insane. Also they have way to much damage and way to large of an AOE to be balanced.
• The medals and awards are competely skewed towards solo play. In a game so focused on teamwork, its suprising to see the medals and awards being so geared towards solo play. They really make it so players want to stat pad rather than play as a team.
• The air units are completely overpowered. A decent player can completely keep one side suppressed with a single aircraft. The abiltiy to fly over the initial takeoff point and reload weapon and health then fly back into battle make them an unstoppable force. Not to mention the lack of good infantry controlled anti-air.
• Horrible infantry animations. When a player jumps and goes prone, their animation suggests that their gun is pointed in the air and tey don't have control. This is infact a lie. What happens instead, they keep fireing straight at you and you end up getting a load of bullets in the face.
• The horrible community. This isn't a knock on the game persay, just more of a note on how elitest the community has gotten. Its not fun anymore because the people who play just hate every newer player and every casual player.

Some of these problems I have with the game may be just that I dont play enough. My accuracy may suck and I may have a bad connection, but as much as I actually run into these problems I can say its probably not just me.

I also have BF2142. For the most part, the air power had been fixed and the weapons are more accurate and powerful. Unfortunately the same engine was used so hitboxes seem to lag and vehicles also seem to lag a bit.

yer man im with ya. it was good and set the benchmark back in the day. I reckon the grenades were good personaly, better animations than the grenades in cod4. Battlefield bad company 2 for pc is going to be epic! have u heard the sound in that game on 360 its unreal!!!!! picture that dx10 on hd !!!

off topic: where did u get your sig?

Yeah I can agree with a lot of that. I mean the squad-squad leader-commander stuff was brilliant then and still is, but by now a lot of the game is pretty dated and busted. I do think 2142 made a lot of improvements and I played the heck out of that for a long time, but not everybody would agree with me on that...

2142 was my daily addiction but times and engines have changed

1-Air units overpowered: absolutely yes. Only weapon vs a fighter or a chopter is another fighter or chopter. The solution is to play in Infantry Only servers.

2-The weapons way too weak: absolutely no. All weapons except pistols ans submachine guns kill in a single headshot. This includes all assault rifles, all sniper rifles, RPGs, grenades and knives. Also, in single shot most of them are very accurate in the first shot. Is true that the recoil and cone of fire dispersation is broad in most of them, but if you play in selective fire or controlled burst (or with the G36E medic unlockable) you will see that BF 2 has some of the most powerfull weapons around.

3-Lag, browser problems: yes and more, because the game doesn't let you to map most of the hotkeys and has also a few options to use panoramic resolutions. Interface isn't the best point of the game, but is not as crucial part as the gameplay itself, and the good parts in the game are better than the annoying faults in the matchmaking design. Also, there's games with much worse problems in this department (see Geears 2).

4-Grenades way too overpowered: grenades are fine. In peace time you will have a hard time to see soldiers carring hand grenades in his belt, enven if they are wielding any type of handguns, smg, pdw or assault rifles, which shows how respected and feared they are. Seriously: if you think that grenades are op is because you don't totaly understand how dangerous are these ones in the real life. And in BF2, as in most of fps, they are longly underrated compared to the real ones.

5-Horrible animations, horrible hitboxes: correct.

6-Awards towards solo play: yes, but at the same time is one of the very, very few games that let you to make a squad, with his own ip communication, and the leader of the squad is in fact a mobile reswpan point -is is not killed or under fire-, which gives the game a teamplay and teamwork impossible to see in most of the fps (including CODs, Halos, UTs ) with maybe the only exception of other BFs and Quake Wars. Is not important if the recognisements are to individual merits: if you play alone your chances and the ones from your team to win are drastically reduced.

7-Horrible community: I don't known what to say. Probably some people have psycological problems and really they enjoy calling noobs the unknowns players, but I have seen this pattern in a lot of different competitive games: Tekken 5 DRO, Soul Calibur IV, Dawn Of War and DoW II, F.E.A.R., COD 2, Combat, UT III... The problem is not exactly the game but their egos.

Yes, BF2 is far from perfect, but to me still maybe the best fps to date. The urban maps are superb, the teamwork has splendid potetial, even with the unbalanced clases, the game looks good, runs fast and has from tiny to huge maps. I like more the class system in Quake wars, the graphics in Crysis Wars and the gunplay and weapons in UT III, but all around BF2 is mi fav mp shooter since his launchship.

the load screens by far were the worst haha

just get the project reallity mod...it pretty much fixes everything you mentioned.

ive seen not many ppl actualy play on those servers though eh.

You can tweak a few things to fix some of the technical problems you mentioned. Link

I somewhat agree with you about the medals, but many rewards require time in squad/squad leader/commander and require wins. So there is some incentive for working together, as well as there aren't any rewards for playing lone wolf.

Also aircraft is only overpowered, because the AA guns in the game are TERRIBLE. The AA guns in BF1942 > BF2 :?

I personally had no problem killing people. They need to fix dolphin diving, and infinite grenades though. They should make it where you can only receive ammo from support class.

You can tweak a few things to fix some of the technical problems you mentioned. Link

I somewhat agree with you about the medals, but many rewards require time in squad/squad leader/commander and require wins. So there is some incentive for working together, as well as there aren't any rewards for playing lone wolf.

Also aircraft is only overpowered, because the AA guns in the game are TERRIBLE. The AA guns in BF1942 > BF2 :?

I personally had no problem killing people. They need to fix dolphin diving, and infinite grenades though. They should make it where you can only receive ammo from support class.

Jackboot343

There are a few things I don't like about the game, even though it's great.

-The menus and the browser are really clumsy, no friends list

-The game itself just feels really clumsy at time, how chars move aso.

-Weapons are inaccurate and weak. This annoys me the most. You can't sometimes seem to kill the guy even though he's right next to you.

2142 was my daily addiction but times and engines have changed

skywarp001

ya 2142 was much better, and, idunno how to say it...it felt cozier. It seemed like there was a stronger community and more teamwork.