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I beat it on Xbox 360 earlier this year, and I'm buying it again for my PC. Why? Because it is, in my opinion anway, one of the most engrossing, satisfying games I have ever played, in the same league at Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Half-Life 2. The Metroidvania style exploration mixed with a great stat-based leveling system and original "souls" experience system gives it a flavor of its own, and the art style is incredible. The difficulty is nothing but a love letter to old-school gamers who appreciate a challenge. You will die a lot, but you will know why you died and you learn patterns from your enemies, where traps are, and better ways to traverse this dark and unforgiving world. Whenever I get the chance I love to tell people about this game and why they should at least try it if they are old-school gamers.

The PC port could have been better, but if you can look past the low res textures and Windows Live implementation and play it with a good gamepad, you'll find it's a truly excellent game. I'm a PC gamer through and through, but sometimes you gotta know when it's worth looking past minor blemishes and just enjoy the damn thing.

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I beat it on Xbox 360 earlier this year, and I'm buying it again for my PC. Why? Because it is, in my opinion anway, one of the most engrossing, satisfying games I have ever played, in the same league at Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Half-Life 2. The Metroidvania style exploration mixed with a great stat-based leveling system and original "souls" experience system gives it a flavor of its own, and the art style is incredible. The difficulty is nothing but a love letter to old-school gamers who appreciate a challenge. You will die a lot, but you will know why you died and you learn patterns from your enemies, where traps are, and better ways to traverse this dark and unforgiving world. Whenever I get the chance I love to tell people about this game and why they should at least try it if they are old-school gamers.

The PC port could have been better, but if you can look past the low res textures and Windows Live implementation and play it with a good gamepad, you'll find it's a truly excellent game. I'm a PC gamer through and through, but sometimes you gotta know when it's worth looking past minor blemishes and just enjoy the damn thing.

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Prepare for a barrage of the usual, "crappy port, won't play because no keyboard and mouse"

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#3 mynameisjosh657
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[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]

I beat it on Xbox 360 earlier this year, and I'm buying it again for my PC. Why? Because it is, in my opinion anway, one of the most engrossing, satisfying games I have ever played, in the same league at Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Half-Life 2. The Metroidvania style exploration mixed with a great stat-based leveling system and original "souls" experience system gives it a flavor of its own, and the art style is incredible. The difficulty is nothing but a love letter to old-school gamers who appreciate a challenge. You will die a lot, but you will know why you died and you learn patterns from your enemies, where traps are, and better ways to traverse this dark and unforgiving world. Whenever I get the chance I love to tell people about this game and why they should at least try it if they are old-school gamers.

The PC port could have been better, but if you can look past the low res textures and Windows Live implementation and play it with a good gamepad, you'll find it's a truly excellent game. I'm a PC gamer through and through, but sometimes you gotta know when it's worth looking past minor blemishes and just enjoy the damn thing.

omenodebander

Prepare for a barrage of the usual, "crappy port, won't play because no keyboard and mouse"

Yup, fully expecting it, I just laugh because their close-mindedness is keeping them from enjoying a great game. Oh well, their loss.

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yea, game is great if you use a controller, I was never going to use the kb/m even if it worked perfect. That said, the pc version actually seems alot easier. I could be that I played it already, but leveling seems faster, I have already rang the first bell and am still wearing the cloths it started me out with because so far they are superior to everything else i have found so far, I didnt have those cloths in the 360 version . They made it easier for the pc crowd it seems. If people could stop complaining for 2 sec get a controller and actually play the game that could see this. The pc community really dosent deserve any respect from developers, and that is why i think we are seeing less and less love for the pc.

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[QUOTE="omenodebander"]

[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]

I beat it on Xbox 360 earlier this year, and I'm buying it again for my PC. Why? Because it is, in my opinion anway, one of the most engrossing, satisfying games I have ever played, in the same league at Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Half-Life 2. The Metroidvania style exploration mixed with a great stat-based leveling system and original "souls" experience system gives it a flavor of its own, and the art style is incredible. The difficulty is nothing but a love letter to old-school gamers who appreciate a challenge. You will die a lot, but you will know why you died and you learn patterns from your enemies, where traps are, and better ways to traverse this dark and unforgiving world. Whenever I get the chance I love to tell people about this game and why they should at least try it if they are old-school gamers.

The PC port could have been better, but if you can look past the low res textures and Windows Live implementation and play it with a good gamepad, you'll find it's a truly excellent game. I'm a PC gamer through and through, but sometimes you gotta know when it's worth looking past minor blemishes and just enjoy the damn thing.

mynameisjosh657

Prepare for a barrage of the usual, "crappy port, won't play because no keyboard and mouse"

Yup, fully expecting it, I just laugh because their close-mindedness is keeping them from enjoying a great game. Oh well, their loss.

The best part? they are the same people who visit system wars and bash the console trolls during a pc vs console debate and say, "The beauty about pc is the freedom it gives you, you can plugin any controller you want blah bla blah PC is great because it can support all these difference input devices blah"

Yet, here they are and I recognize some of them during their rants against using a controller for this game. Why so hesitant to get a 360 controller? Do you think it makes you less 'hardcore' or something? Is there some divine law that was written that I must have missed or something ?

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The best part? they are the same people who visit system wars and bash the console trolls during a pc vs console debate and say, "The beauty about pc is the freedom it gives you, you can plugin any controller you want blah bla blah"

Yet, here they are and I recognize some of them during their rants against using a controller for this game. Why so hesitant to get a 360 controller? Do you think it makes you less 'hardcore' or something? Is there some divine law that was written that I must have missed or something ?

omenodebander

Umm no, I'm pretty sure they complain because there is nothing "freedom" regarding this game...

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Dark Souls is a masterpiece but apparently a big chunk of the PC community at Gamespot doesn't care about how good a game is. Their view on what makes a game good is so warped it's unbelievable. It's all about resolution and framerates closer to 60 than 30. If they can't have these things, they'll start to cry and "Waaaaah, I don't wanna!!". The sad thing is most of them have absolutely no idea how special Dark Souls is.
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[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]

[QUOTE="omenodebander"]

Prepare for a barrage of the usual, "crappy port, won't play because no keyboard and mouse"

omenodebander

Yup, fully expecting it, I just laugh because their close-mindedness is keeping them from enjoying a great game. Oh well, their loss.

The best part? they are the same people who visit system wars and bash the console trolls during a pc vs console debate and say, "The beauty about pc is the freedom it gives you, you can plugin any controller you want blah bla blah PC is great because it can support all these difference input devices blah"

Yet, here they are and I recognize some of them during their rants against using a controller for this game. Why so hesitant to get a 360 controller? Do you think it makes you less 'hardcore' or something? Is there some divine law that was written that I must have missed or something ?

Well its like the Left 4 Dead 2 boycott. When it started, it was because they thought L4D2 was releasing way too soon when HL3 wasn't even announced, but the ability for people to come together and be major a holes caused them to close it when most people were enjoying L4D2 and the few people left on the group were using it to insult the series and Valve as a whole without ever having played it or without making any valid arguments except voicing their hatred.

Anyone who is hating on Dark Souls still at this point is trolling or they're just justifying their choice to not play the game by massively hating it for the stupidest, most shallow reasons imaginable.

Its a great game, I mean Kevin V gave it a 9.5 for gods sakes and its discussed constantly for the innovation and amazing design it offers, so its far from bad from an objective standpoint. Some people just need a life.

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Prepare for a barrage of the usual, "crappy port, won't play because no keyboard and mouse"

omenodebander

I don't see why people even want to play it with keyboard and mouse.

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#10 omenodebander
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[QUOTE="omenodebander"]

[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]

Yup, fully expecting it, I just laugh because their close-mindedness is keeping them from enjoying a great game. Oh well, their loss.

SPYDER0416

The best part? they are the same people who visit system wars and bash the console trolls during a pc vs console debate and say, "The beauty about pc is the freedom it gives you, you can plugin any controller you want blah bla blah PC is great because it can support all these difference input devices blah"

Yet, here they are and I recognize some of them during their rants against using a controller for this game. Why so hesitant to get a 360 controller? Do you think it makes you less 'hardcore' or something? Is there some divine law that was written that I must have missed or something ?

Well its like the Left 4 Dead 2 boycott. When it started, it was because they thought L4D2 was releasing way too soon when HL3 wasn't even announced, but the ability for people to come together and be major a holes caused them to close it when most people were enjoying L4D2 and the few people left on the group were using it to insult the series and Valve as a whole without ever having played it or without making any valid arguments except voicing their hatred.

Anyone who is hating on Dark Souls still at this point is trolling or they're just justifying their choice to not play the game by massively hating it for the stupidest, most shallow reasons imaginable.

Its a great game, I mean Kevin V gave it a 9.5 for gods sakes and its discussed constantly for the innovation and amazing design it offers, so its far from bad from an objective standpoint. Some people just need a life.

Have you had any invasions so far? I did, but the invader fell to his death during our fight. made me chuckle, until some huge knight walked in and pwned me. love this game

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I bought the game. Loaded it. Played it with my 360 controller. Works flawlessly. Better than consoles with a stable framerate. I haven't tried out the coop and pvp yet.

I am just happy this masterpiece made it to PC. I can now sell my PS3.

IMO all the complaining is extremely childish (I don't really care what forum kids have to say anyways. A lot of people in these forums are mentally ill. No question about it.) According to some, it doesn't matter how great the game is. All that matters is the resolution and having to tweak your kb/m controls.

The same people would probably be bragging about Dark Souls if with were a PC exclusive made from an indie developer.

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Dark Souls is a masterpiece but apparently a big chunk of the PC community at Gamespot doesn't care about how good a game is. Their view on what makes a game good is so warped it's unbelievable. It's all about resolution and framerates closer to 60 than 30. If they can't have these things, they'll start to cry and "Waaaaah, I don't wanna!!". The sad thing is most of them have absolutely no idea how special Dark Souls is.x-2tha-z

I have played and beaten Dark Souls on PS3. These porting issues for the PC version are unacceptable. You have no standards if you think this a fine port. Problems with the framerate, locked resolution, GFWL, NO MOUSE AND KEYBOARD PROMPTS. Seriously, when was the last time a game was ported to the PC and had only 360 button prompts? If you think developers deserve any sort of praise or forgiveness for this port...then I think your're an idiot.

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It was worse when Ubisoft shipped games with some random icons as button prompts, like AC1/2 and PoP08.

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It was worse when Ubisoft shipped games with some random icons as button prompts, like AC1/2 and PoP08.

Baranga

No it's not, I can at least get use to the button prompts like I did in Assassins Creed. Having 360 button prompts on the screen is far more confusing.

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[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Dark Souls is a masterpiece but apparently a big chunk of the PC community at Gamespot doesn't care about how good a game is. Their view on what makes a game good is so warped it's unbelievable. It's all about resolution and framerates closer to 60 than 30. If they can't have these things, they'll start to cry and "Waaaaah, I don't wanna!!". The sad thing is most of them have absolutely no idea how special Dark Souls is.JangoWuzHere

I have played and beaten Dark Souls on PS3. These porting issues for the PC version are unacceptable. You have no standards if you think this a fine port. Problems with the framerate, locked resolution, GFWL, NO MOUSE AND KEYBOARD PROMPTS. Seriously, when was the last time a game was ported to the PC and had only 360 button prompts? If you think developers deserve any sort of praise or forgiveness for this port...then I think your're an idiot.

And if you think your "you have no standards" crap holds any weight, then I think you are a complete idiot with his head up his butt. How's that?

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Its not the best port ever, but I'm just happy we got it at all. Its a must play if you have a gamepad.

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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="omenodebander"]

The best part? they are the same people who visit system wars and bash the console trolls during a pc vs console debate and say, "The beauty about pc is the freedom it gives you, you can plugin any controller you want blah bla blah PC is great because it can support all these difference input devices blah"

Yet, here they are and I recognize some of them during their rants against using a controller for this game. Why so hesitant to get a 360 controller? Do you think it makes you less 'hardcore' or something? Is there some divine law that was written that I must have missed or something ?

omenodebander

Well its like the Left 4 Dead 2 boycott. When it started, it was because they thought L4D2 was releasing way too soon when HL3 wasn't even announced, but the ability for people to come together and be major a holes caused them to close it when most people were enjoying L4D2 and the few people left on the group were using it to insult the series and Valve as a whole without ever having played it or without making any valid arguments except voicing their hatred.

Anyone who is hating on Dark Souls still at this point is trolling or they're just justifying their choice to not play the game by massively hating it for the stupidest, most shallow reasons imaginable.

Its a great game, I mean Kevin V gave it a 9.5 for gods sakes and its discussed constantly for the innovation and amazing design it offers, so its far from bad from an objective standpoint. Some people just need a life.

Have you had any invasions so far? I did, but the invader fell to his death during our fight. made me chuckle, until some huge knight walked in and pwned me. love this game

Invasions are great but pretty rare for me. Its always tense and thrilling, but if I can get a couple of people summoned the invader ends up getting royally screwed unless they're smart enough to pick out the leader somehow. I haven't invaded myself since I can never find a match and it still wastes an invasion stone if I don't find one.

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#18 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Dark Souls is a masterpiece but apparently a big chunk of the PC community at Gamespot doesn't care about how good a game is. Their view on what makes a game good is so warped it's unbelievable. It's all about resolution and framerates closer to 60 than 30. If they can't have these things, they'll start to cry and "Waaaaah, I don't wanna!!". The sad thing is most of them have absolutely no idea how special Dark Souls is.omenodebander

I have played and beaten Dark Souls on PS3. These porting issues for the PC version are unacceptable. You have no standards if you think this a fine port. Problems with the framerate, locked resolution, GFWL, NO MOUSE AND KEYBOARD PROMPTS. Seriously, when was the last time a game was ported to the PC and had only 360 button prompts? If you think developers deserve any sort of praise or forgiveness for this port...then I think your're an idiot.

And if you think your "you have no standards" crap holds any weight, then I think you are a complete idiot with his head up his butt. How's that?

I think it's a dark day for PC gaming when people buy this game and think this meets the quality standards of the platform. I'm not seeing any justfied reason on why we are getting such a **** port. This is like getting Resident Evil 4 on PC and saying it's fine because the games fun. I know it's a fun game, but that doesn't make it okay. The fact that there are people defending this blows my mind. I'm not a hardcore PC game, but I have quality standards for when I play games on my PS3 and my PC.

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[QUOTE="omenodebander"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I have played and beaten Dark Souls on PS3. These porting issues for the PC version are unacceptable. You have no standards if you think this a fine port. Problems with the framerate, locked resolution, GFWL, NO MOUSE AND KEYBOARD PROMPTS. Seriously, when was the last time a game was ported to the PC and had only 360 button prompts? If you think developers deserve any sort of praise or forgiveness for this port...then I think your're an idiot.

JangoWuzHere

And if you think your "you have no standards" crap holds any weight, then I think you are a complete idiot with his head up his butt. How's that?

I think it's a dark day for PC gaming when people buy this game and think this meets the quality standards of the platform. I'm not seeing any justfied reason on why we are getting such a **** port. This is like getting Resident Evil 4 on PC and saying it's fine because the games fun. I know it's a fun game, but that doesn't make it okay. The fact that there are people defending this blows my mind. I'm not a hardcore PC game, but I have quality standards for when I play games on my PS3 and my PC.

I feel like you might be overreacting a bit, lately the PC has been getting some good ports. The new Deus Ex had a great PC port from Square Enix, a Japanese developer. I made this thread to counter people who would simply avoid this game because it's not a very good port. Been following this from the day it was announced, From Software had literally NO IDEA how to make a PC port, and did it all by themselves. You could argue that they should have enlisted help from another studio, but talk about dedication to your fanbase. I hope From Software has learned valuable lessons and I hope that when the next Souls game is released, they can do a better job with PC, but until then, I'm just going to ignore the blemishes and enjoy this fantastic game once again.

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I bought the game. Loaded it. Played it with my 360 controller. Works flawlessly. Better than consoles with a stable framerate. I haven't tried out the coop and pvp yet.

I am just happy this masterpiece made it to PC. I can now sell my PS3.

IMO all the complaining is extremely childish (I don't really care what forum kids have to say anyways. A lot of people in these forums are mentally ill. No question about it.) According to some, it doesn't matter how great the game is. All that matters is the resolution and having to tweak your kb/m controls.

The same people would probably be bragging about Dark Souls if with were a PC exclusive made from an indie developer.

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#21 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="omenodebander"]

And if you think your "you have no standards" crap holds any weight, then I think you are a complete idiot with his head up his butt. How's that?

mynameisjosh657

I think it's a dark day for PC gaming when people buy this game and think this meets the quality standards of the platform. I'm not seeing any justfied reason on why we are getting such a **** port. This is like getting Resident Evil 4 on PC and saying it's fine because the games fun. I know it's a fun game, but that doesn't make it okay. The fact that there are people defending this blows my mind. I'm not a hardcore PC game, but I have quality standards for when I play games on my PS3 and my PC.

I feel like you might be overreacting a bit, lately the PC has been getting some good ports. The new Deus Ex had a great PC port from Square Enix, a Japanese developer. I made this thread to counter people who would simply avoid this game because it's not a very good port. Been following this from the day it was announced, From Software had literally NO IDEA how to make a PC port, and did it all by themselves. You could argue that they should have enlisted help from another studio, but talk about dedication to your fanbase. I hope From Software has learned valuable lessons and I hope that when the next Souls game is released, they can do a better job with PC, but until then, I'm just going to ignore the blemishes and enjoy this fantastic game once again.

See, but now you are trying to justfy this port because they have a lack of PC experiance. I'll say this again, I don't think consumers should think about what happens inside a developer studio. All that matters is that they get a quality product. If a developer makes mistakes, then they should be ridiculedfor such mistakes. They shouldn't be forgiven and praised while saying " Welp, better luck next time FromSoftware!" I personally don't see this as rewarding the fanbase. Fans deserve better, they shoudn't be the ones getting the short end of the stick.

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The new Deus Ex had a great PC port from Square Enix, a Japanese developer.mynameisjosh657
There's nothing Japanese about the developer of DEHR, Eidos, except the publishing contract with the exclusively console developer Square Enix that is also almost entirely publishing console games only.
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[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Dark Souls is a masterpiece but apparently a big chunk of the PC community at Gamespot doesn't care about how good a game is. Their view on what makes a game good is so warped it's unbelievable. It's all about resolution and framerates closer to 60 than 30. If they can't have these things, they'll start to cry and "Waaaaah, I don't wanna!!". The sad thing is most of them have absolutely no idea how special Dark Souls is.JangoWuzHere

I have played and beaten Dark Souls on PS3. These porting issues for the PC version are unacceptable. You have no standards if you think this a fine port. Problems with the framerate, locked resolution, GFWL, NO MOUSE AND KEYBOARD PROMPTS. Seriously, when was the last time a game was ported to the PC and had only 360 button prompts? If you think developers deserve any sort of praise or forgiveness for this port...then I think your're an idiot.

What he said +10 points

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#24 mynameisjosh657
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[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]The new Deus Ex had a great PC port from Square Enix, a Japanese developer.DanielDust
There's nothing Japanese about the developer of DEHR, Eidos, except the publishing contract with the exclusively console developer Square Enix that is also almost entirely publishing console games only.

Thanks for the correction, my bad

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#25 mynameisjosh657
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[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] I think it's a dark day for PC gaming when people buy this game and think this meets the quality standards of the platform. I'm not seeing any justfied reason on why we are getting such a **** port. This is like getting Resident Evil 4 on PC and saying it's fine because the games fun. I know it's a fun game, but that doesn't make it okay. The fact that there are people defending this blows my mind. I'm not a hardcore PC game, but I have quality standards for when I play games on my PS3 and my PC.

JangoWuzHere

I feel like you might be overreacting a bit, lately the PC has been getting some good ports. The new Deus Ex had a great PC port from Square Enix, a Japanese developer. I made this thread to counter people who would simply avoid this game because it's not a very good port. Been following this from the day it was announced, From Software had literally NO IDEA how to make a PC port, and did it all by themselves. You could argue that they should have enlisted help from another studio, but talk about dedication to your fanbase. I hope From Software has learned valuable lessons and I hope that when the next Souls game is released, they can do a better job with PC, but until then, I'm just going to ignore the blemishes and enjoy this fantastic game once again.

See, but now you are trying to justfy this port because they have a lack of PC experiance. I'll say this again, I don't think consumers should think about what happens inside a developer studio. All that matters is that they get a quality product. If a developer makes mistakes, then they should be ridiculedfor such mistakes. They shouldn't be forgiven and praised while saying " Welp, better luck next time FromSoftware!" I personally don't see this as rewarding the fanbase. Fans deserve better, they shoudn't be the ones getting the short end of the stick.

Well, you may be right in a lot of your points, flipside being that From Software could have just not made this port (a decision I'm sure they thought a lot about) and then PC only gamers would never have a chance to experience this game. It is what it is, you can accept it and just play the game, or boycott it because of the port quality, your decision. Bottom line, this game rocks regardless.

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[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] I think it's a dark day for PC gaming when people buy this game and think this meets the quality standards of the platform. I'm not seeing any justfied reason on why we are getting such a **** port. This is like getting Resident Evil 4 on PC and saying it's fine because the games fun. I know it's a fun game, but that doesn't make it okay. The fact that there are people defending this blows my mind. I'm not a hardcore PC game, but I have quality standards for when I play games on my PS3 and my PC.

JangoWuzHere

I feel like you might be overreacting a bit, lately the PC has been getting some good ports. The new Deus Ex had a great PC port from Square Enix, a Japanese developer. I made this thread to counter people who would simply avoid this game because it's not a very good port. Been following this from the day it was announced, From Software had literally NO IDEA how to make a PC port, and did it all by themselves. You could argue that they should have enlisted help from another studio, but talk about dedication to your fanbase. I hope From Software has learned valuable lessons and I hope that when the next Souls game is released, they can do a better job with PC, but until then, I'm just going to ignore the blemishes and enjoy this fantastic game once again.

See, but now you are trying to justfy this port because they have a lack of PC experiance. I'll say this again, I don't think consumers should think about what happens inside a developer studio. All that matters is that they get a quality product. If a developer makes mistakes, then they should be ridculed for such mistakes. They shouldn't be forgiven and praised while saying " Welp, better luck next time FromSoftware!" I personally don't see this as rewarding the fanbase. Fans deserve better, they shoudn't be the ones getting the short end of the stick.

You sound like a idiot, pc gamers asked for the game to be ported. It got ported, they said many times it would be a direct port. I have over 100 hrs in the 360 version, the pc version looks and runs better then the console version, granted you use a controller. Oh no, whats this a direct port made for consoles only, plays 100 times better with a controller then a kb/m? WTF thats crazy, what a crappy port, never mind it is still the best version of darksouls released to date, a game which scored very high all around for being awesome. I used to be the only one here that could see through this elitist BS that has been on these boards since I first came here. I would call you people out and get flamed 20 to 1 all the time, glad to see there finally some fellow Pc gamers out there that are beginning to see hoe ridiculous the community has become. dark souls is better then it has ever been on the pc, aslong as you use a controller and the rez mod, Pc gamers have went trough 10000 times worse then that getting games to work correctly from time to time. The hate is unwarranted. I hope you elitist slowly die out all together here.

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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]

I feel like you might be overreacting a bit, lately the PC has been getting some good ports. The new Deus Ex had a great PC port from Square Enix, a Japanese developer. I made this thread to counter people who would simply avoid this game because it's not a very good port. Been following this from the day it was announced, From Software had literally NO IDEA how to make a PC port, and did it all by themselves. You could argue that they should have enlisted help from another studio, but talk about dedication to your fanbase. I hope From Software has learned valuable lessons and I hope that when the next Souls game is released, they can do a better job with PC, but until then, I'm just going to ignore the blemishes and enjoy this fantastic game once again.

Advid-Gamer

See, but now you are trying to justfy this port because they have a lack of PC experiance. I'll say this again, I don't think consumers should think about what happens inside a developer studio. All that matters is that they get a quality product. If a developer makes mistakes, then they should be ridculed for such mistakes. They shouldn't be forgiven and praised while saying " Welp, better luck next time FromSoftware!" I personally don't see this as rewarding the fanbase. Fans deserve better, they shoudn't be the ones getting the short end of the stick.

You sound like a idiot, pc gamers asked for the game to be ported. It got ported, they said many times it would be a direct port. I have over 100 hrs in the 360 version, the pc version looks and runs better then the console version, granted you use a controller. Oh no, whats this a direct port made for consoles only plays 100 times better with a controller then a kb/m? WTF thats crazy, what a crappy port, never mind it is still the best version of darksouls released to date, a game which scored very high all around for being awesome. I used to be the only one here that could see through this elitist BS that has been on these boards since I first came here. I would call you people out and get flamed 20 to 1 all the time, glad to see there finally some fellow Pc gamers out there that are beginning to see hoe ridiculous the community has become. dark souls is better then it has ever been on the pc, aslong as you use a controller and the rez mod, Pc gamers have went trough 10000 times worse then that getting games to work correctly from time to time. The hate is unwarranted. I hope you elitist slowly die out all together here.

Agreed. The community is now a joke.

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Personally I don't think it's a masterpiece. It has many poor or boring parts and others that are very good.

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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]

I feel like you might be overreacting a bit, lately the PC has been getting some good ports. The new Deus Ex had a great PC port from Square Enix, a Japanese developer. I made this thread to counter people who would simply avoid this game because it's not a very good port. Been following this from the day it was announced, From Software had literally NO IDEA how to make a PC port, and did it all by themselves. You could argue that they should have enlisted help from another studio, but talk about dedication to your fanbase. I hope From Software has learned valuable lessons and I hope that when the next Souls game is released, they can do a better job with PC, but until then, I'm just going to ignore the blemishes and enjoy this fantastic game once again.

Advid-Gamer

See, but now you are trying to justfy this port because they have a lack of PC experiance. I'll say this again, I don't think consumers should think about what happens inside a developer studio. All that matters is that they get a quality product. If a developer makes mistakes, then they should be ridculed for such mistakes. They shouldn't be forgiven and praised while saying " Welp, better luck next time FromSoftware!" I personally don't see this as rewarding the fanbase. Fans deserve better, they shoudn't be the ones getting the short end of the stick.

You sound like a idiot, pc gamers asked for the game to be ported. It got ported, they said many times it would be a direct port. I have over 100 hrs in the 360 version, the pc version looks and runs better then the console version, granted you use a controller. Oh no, whats this a direct port made for consoles only plays 100 times better with a controller then a kb/m? WTF thats crazy, what a crappy port, never mind it is still the best version of darksouls released to date, a game which scored very high all around for being awesome. I used to be the only one here that could see through this elitist BS that has been on these boards since I first came here. I would call you people out and get flamed 20 to 1 all the time, glad to see there finally some fellow Pc gamers out there that are beginning to see hoe ridiculous the community has become. dark souls is better then it has ever been on the pc, aslong as you use a controller and the rez mod, Pc gamers have went trough 10000 times worse then that getting games to work correctly from time to time. The hate is unwarranted. I hope you elitist slowly die out all together here.

Agreed. The community is now a joke.

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#30 mynameisjosh657
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Personally I don't think it's a masterpiece. It has many poor or boring parts and others that are very good.

Masculus

Blasphemy! JK blight town kinda sucks, I'll agree with you on that. It's the equivalent of the water temple in Ocarina of Time

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You sound like a idiot, pc gamers asked for the game to be ported. It got ported, they said many times it would be a direct port. I have over 100 hrs in the 360 version, the pc version looks and runs better then the console version, granted you use a controller. Oh no, whats this a direct port made for consoles only plays 100 times better with a controller then a kb/m? WTF thats crazy, what a crappy port, never mind it is still the best version of darksouls released to date, a game which scored very high all around for being awesome. I used to be the only one here that could see through this elitist BS that has been on these boards since I first came here. I would call you people out and get flamed 20 to 1 all the time, glad to see there finally some fellow Pc gamers out there that are beginning to see hoe ridiculous the community has become. dark souls is better then it has ever been on the pc, aslong as you use a controller and the rez mod, Pc gamers have went trough 10000 times worse then that getting games to work correctly from time to time. The hate is unwarranted. I hope you elitist slowly die out all together here.

Advid-Gamer

Well this is interesting. First we had the PC elitist now we have the inverse of the PC elitist who believe that bad made games is a gift to PC gamers and PC gamers are simply "entitled" or an elitist. Where is the other option of PC gamers? You know the ones that care about the quality of a game. I am still baffled by the defense team of Dark Souls who act as if its not the rite of the consumer to have basic expectations and that some how we are ungrateful and should be honored to get a badly ported game for a minimal fee of $40. How elitist and snobbish of us? We cannot appreciate the quality of a half ass product. :|

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#32 mynameisjosh657
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Personally I don't think it's a masterpiece. It has many poor or boring parts and others that are very good.

Masculus

Blasphemy! JK blight town kinda sucks, I'll agree with you on that. It's the equivalent of the water temple in Ocarina of Time

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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]

I feel like you might be overreacting a bit, lately the PC has been getting some good ports. The new Deus Ex had a great PC port from Square Enix, a Japanese developer. I made this thread to counter people who would simply avoid this game because it's not a very good port. Been following this from the day it was announced, From Software had literally NO IDEA how to make a PC port, and did it all by themselves. You could argue that they should have enlisted help from another studio, but talk about dedication to your fanbase. I hope From Software has learned valuable lessons and I hope that when the next Souls game is released, they can do a better job with PC, but until then, I'm just going to ignore the blemishes and enjoy this fantastic game once again.

Advid-Gamer

See, but now you are trying to justfy this port because they have a lack of PC experiance. I'll say this again, I don't think consumers should think about what happens inside a developer studio. All that matters is that they get a quality product. If a developer makes mistakes, then they should be ridculed for such mistakes. They shouldn't be forgiven and praised while saying " Welp, better luck next time FromSoftware!" I personally don't see this as rewarding the fanbase. Fans deserve better, they shoudn't be the ones getting the short end of the stick.

You sound like a idiot, pc gamers asked for the game to be ported. It got ported, they said many times it would be a direct port. I have over 100 hrs in the 360 version, the pc version looks and runs better then the console version, granted you use a controller. Oh no, whats this a direct port made for consoles only, plays 100 times better with a controller then a kb/m? WTF thats crazy, what a crappy port, never mind it is still the best version of darksouls released to date, a game which scored very high all around for being awesome. I used to be the only one here that could see through this elitist BS that has been on these boards since I first came here. I would call you people out and get flamed 20 to 1 all the time, glad to see there finally some fellow Pc gamers out there that are beginning to see hoe ridiculous the community has become. dark souls is better then it has ever been on the pc, aslong as you use a controller and the rez mod, Pc gamers have went trough 10000 times worse then that getting games to work correctly from time to time. The hate is unwarranted. I hope you elitist slowly die out all together here.

When PC gamers asked for port, I don't think they wanted a **** port. I don't see how I'm an elitist for having expectations of decent Mouse and Keybaord controls and upgraded visuals for the PC platform. That's not super high standards, that's just common with almost every single damn game released on the PC. I actually don't see the PC version having a super long life span like the console versions. Simply because there doesn't seem to be any sort of anti-cheat to stop hackers from playing unfairly. The online portion for Dark Souls is such a vital part of what makes that game unique. I fully expect there to be hackers and cheater galore in the coming weeks.

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I beat this game on PS3 and already got the key for Dark Soul to put it on my Steam account but I don't have any PC :(. I'm building a new PC right now but my CPU is not here untill Monday.... Demon's Soul and Dark Soul is just a "Must Have" game. the world, Monster and boss fight is so cool and amazing. Seriously anyone who are interesting in this game should buy it and if you don't like it because of the console port then you can wait untill the price go down but you guys really need to try to play this amazing game.
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Honestly, if the game just had high resolution support that'd be fine by me. I mean yeah, I signed that petition to bring it to the PC but that doesn't mean I'm gonna buy it if it's a shoddy product. I'm not even asking for an amazing port, but come on - at least have the resolution down.
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im more about parrying now then i was blocking lol. :P

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Honestly, if the game just had high resolution support that'd be fine by me. I mean yeah, I signed that petition to bring it to the PC but that doesn't mean I'm gonna buy it if it's a shoddy product. I'm not even asking for an amazing port, but come on - at least have the resolution down. FPS_Gamer123
There is a mod that was out day one that fixed the rez,. I thought one of the mighty benefits to pc gaming was mods? Use it,and what is the need for complaining if mods are a perk? Because it wasnt added at release? I agree, but now move on it is fixed. You guys wanted a port, people call it a crappy port because it really needs a controller and the mod to be great, but really that seems so petty. I have had a wired 360 controller for years already for pc gaming and the mod literally takes half a sec to install. So other then those 2 complaints whats the problem people? Enjoy one of the best games made this gen and stfu about the little stuff that to me seems so petty, I cant see the issue and seems like complaining just to complain.
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Great game with a horrible PC port, no thanks but hope ya enjoy!

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the game is great with a controller and that resolution fix, I have no complaints at all.

but If I didnt have a controller I wouldnt like it, but I have my 360 controller so im good.

without the rez fix the game looks like crap on large monitors, on my 11.6 inch laptop it looks fine without the fix since its so small.

performance is great too on both my laptop (GT 650M) and my desktop (GTX 680)

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Its not the best port ever, but I'm just happy we got it at all. Its a must play if you have a gamepad.

agpickle

nice to know this bit, no need to get it now.

seeing some info of this game; it's billed as RPG, is there any chioce-consequence, attribute, alignment related role-playing involved? besides optimal gamepad combat?

as for those "[PC] community is a joke" comments...well, what exactly is PC community here at GS?...most of the most vocal regulars are multiplaform gamers. if you define "PC community" as a grouup of people who game on PC...as long as you do game on PC (regardless of whether you also game on consoles), you're part of the joke community.

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It's pretty unplayable for me at the moment:(

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It's pretty unplayable for me at the moment:(

Postmortem123
yeah I heard AMD videocards run like crap with this game atm, so heres the deal: you need a controller and an nvidia GPU to enjoy this game right now.
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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

It's pretty unplayable for me at the moment:(

theshadowhunter

yeah I heard AMD videocards run like crap with this game atm, so heres the deal: you need a controller and an nvidia GPU to enjoy this game right now.

Yeah the controls are horrible and I get a lot of fps drops. Maybe it will get fixed? Probably not...

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If no surround sound, a 30-fps cap, and poor M/KB controls are minor blemishes, I don't know what a major blemish would constitute as. Also, I'm sure you guys will love eventually getting plagued and consistently invaded by hackers. Have fun with that, while I enjoy the best version of Dark Souls that I've already had for a looonng time :P.
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[QUOTE="FPS_Gamer123"]Honestly, if the game just had high resolution support that'd be fine by me. I mean yeah, I signed that petition to bring it to the PC but that doesn't mean I'm gonna buy it if it's a shoddy product. I'm not even asking for an amazing port, but come on - at least have the resolution down. Advid-Gamer
There is a mod that was out day one that fixed the rez,. I thought one of the mighty benefits to pc gaming was mods? Use it,and what is the need for complaining if mods are a perk? Because it wasnt added at release? I agree, but now move on it is fixed. You guys wanted a port, people call it a crappy port because it really needs a controller and the mod to be great, but really that seems so petty. I have had a wired 360 controller for years already for pc gaming and the mod literally takes half a sec to install. So other then those 2 complaints whats the problem people? Enjoy one of the best games made this gen and stfu about the little stuff that to me seems so petty, I cant see the issue and seems like complaining just to complain.

The problem is that if it was so simple to fix that a modder did it in 23 minutes, then why didn't the developer just fix it up in the first place? It's not elitist to ask for the very basic of PC standards - having resolution options and mouse and keyboard control. Other console ports have these basic standards so I think it's fair for people to call Dark Souls a crappy port, because that's exactly what it is. I'm not paying $40 for a product like this but a boycott seems a bit much to me. I'll gladly pick this up once it receives a fair price reduction.
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="FPS_Gamer123"]Honestly, if the game just had high resolution support that'd be fine by me. I mean yeah, I signed that petition to bring it to the PC but that doesn't mean I'm gonna buy it if it's a shoddy product. I'm not even asking for an amazing port, but come on - at least have the resolution down. FPS_Gamer123
There is a mod that was out day one that fixed the rez,. I thought one of the mighty benefits to pc gaming was mods? Use it,and what is the need for complaining if mods are a perk? Because it wasnt added at release? I agree, but now move on it is fixed. You guys wanted a port, people call it a crappy port because it really needs a controller and the mod to be great, but really that seems so petty. I have had a wired 360 controller for years already for pc gaming and the mod literally takes half a sec to install. So other then those 2 complaints whats the problem people? Enjoy one of the best games made this gen and stfu about the little stuff that to me seems so petty, I cant see the issue and seems like complaining just to complain.

The problem is that if it was so simple to fix that a modder did it in 23 minutes, then why didn't the developer just fix it up in the first place? It's not elitist to ask for the very basic of PC standards - having resolution options and mouse and keyboard control. Other console ports have these basic standards so I think it's fair for people to call Dark Souls a crappy port, because that's exactly what it is. I'm not paying $40 for a product like this but a boycott seems a bit much to me. I'll gladly pick this up once it receives a fair price reduction.

My god.....ok, I cant answer that question, but why harp on it? Dont get the game I dont give a **** i didnt make the game, i found a way to enjoy the game with out worrying why the developers did this or that, because I dont give a **** the game is good and very playable, not good enough for you because you live on a cloud, great dont buy it wont affect me one bit. Rip real gamers, rise of the crybabies. You people should get used to this because honestly since i have been a pc gamer about 4 years, I have noticed a trend of ports worse and worse and less exclusives, and more entitlement from the pc gamers,lol like they have buying power. It will never work out, to many people steal pc games, a hell of alot more then buy them, developers dont want to spend the extra money for nothing if you havent noticed we are in a world wide recession, yet the pc gamer entitlement still grows

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I'm just glad I can play it. Wanted to play it for a while after hearing so much and so far a few hours in I can see why people love it. It's goold old gaming like before everyone worried about realism and powerful engines etc. What I wasn't expecting is how scary the game can be, it's like a hack n' slash horror game. It's such a heavy depressing atmosphere. Learn the combat system and it becomes a blast to play

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What I am noticing is the people I have always hated the most here, the most vocal stuck up pc gamers for years, are the ones that are complaining the most. Put it this way most of the crybabies are SW posters constantly pushing PC superiority and acting better then everyone else, the ones that made me hate pc gamers, are the ones crying the most about these issues. Jump off a cliff already

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If no surround sound, a 30-fps cap, and poor M/KB controls are minor blemishes, I don't know what a major blemish would constitute as. Also, I'm sure you guys will love eventually getting plagued and consistently invaded by hackers. Have fun with that, while I enjoy the best version of Dark Souls that I've already had for a looonng time :P.KHAndAnime

I wouldn't want to play this with kb/m anyway. Or any third person game of this type. They're made for and work best with controllers. In the end it's still a better version than the console one cos it was cheaper, has more content and the problems are being modded out so far. Give it a few months and it cuold be a much different game,

The hackers thing will be an issue alright, but every game has them. By then I hope to be well through the game

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What I am noticing is the people I have always hated the most here, the most vocal stuck up pc gamers for years, are the ones that are complaining the most. Put it this way most of the crybabies are SW posters constantly pushing PC superiority and acting better then everyone else, the ones that made me hate pc gamers, are the ones crying the most about these issues. Jump off a cliff already

Advid-Gamer

What I don't get is PC gamers tout best versions all the time, sure. But then they also know that visuals isn't everything according to them. But here they are really attacking this game hard. Really hard. Some aren't even trying it before knocking it either. Which is sad cos it's such a good game