Actually, Dark Souls is a masterpiece

Wow, lots of hostility in this thread.:?

Wow, lots of hostility in this thread.:?

mitu123

Lot's of it in all the threads regarding the game

Wow, lots of hostility in this thread.:?

mitu123

Yep. same people thrashing this game were praising vampire masquerade bloodlines years ago, a game that was so broken with terrible resolution support and buggy to all hell and back. It needed mods to be even remotely playable.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Wow, lots of hostility in this thread.:?

omenodebander

Yep. same people thrashing this game were praising vampire masquerade bloodlines years ago, a game that was so broken with terrible resolution support and buggy to all hell and back. It needed mods to be even remotely playable.

Some people just wanted it to fail because of how popular it is.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

What I am noticing is the people I have always hated the most here, the most vocal stuck up pc gamers for years, are the ones that are complaining the most. Put it this way most of the crybabies are SW posters constantly pushing PC superiority and acting better then everyone else, the ones that made me hate pc gamers, are the ones crying the most about these issues. Jump off a cliff already

seanmcloughlin

But here they are really attacking this game hard. Really hard. Some aren't even trying it before knocking it either. Which is sad cos it's such a good game

Because it deserves it's hate. Obviously it's a great game, but saying that excuses the crappy porting is insane.

[QUOTE="omenodebander"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Wow, lots of hostility in this thread.:?

seanmcloughlin

Yep. same people thrashing this game were praising vampire masquerade bloodlines years ago, a game that was so broken with terrible resolution support and buggy to all hell and back. It needed mods to be even remotely playable.

Some people just wanted it to fail because of how popular it is.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

What I am noticing is the people I have always hated the most here, the most vocal stuck up pc gamers for years, are the ones that are complaining the most. Put it this way most of the crybabies are SW posters constantly pushing PC superiority and acting better then everyone else, the ones that made me hate pc gamers, are the ones crying the most about these issues. Jump off a cliff already

JangoWuzHere

But here they are really attacking this game hard. Really hard. Some aren't even trying it before knocking it either. Which is sad cos it's such a good game

Because it deserves it's hate. Obviously it's a great game, but saying that excuses the crappy porting is insane.

I didn't say it excuses it, I still find it strange a dude fixed the resolution in a week without the game and FROM couldn't do it. But im saying it's easy to look passed it and still enjoy the game. It's never been about visuals for these games and it never will.

Also I find it even more astonishing that people are acting shocked and surprised when we have known how bad it would be for months now.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]If no surround sound, a 30-fps cap, and poor M/KB controls are minor blemishes, I don't know what a major blemish would constitute as. Also, I'm sure you guys will love eventually getting plagued and consistently invaded by hackers. Have fun with that, while I enjoy the best version of Dark Souls that I've already had for a looonng time :P.seanmcloughlin

I wouldn't want to play this with kb/m anyway. Or any third person game of this type. They're made for and work best with controllers. In the end it's still a better version than the console one cos it was cheaper, has more content and the problems are being modded out so far. Give it a few months and it cuold be a much different game,

The hackers thing will be an issue alright, but every game has them. By then I hope to be well through the game

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

But here they are really attacking this game hard. Really hard. Some aren't even trying it before knocking it either. Which is sad cos it's such a good game

seanmcloughlin

Because it deserves it's hate. Obviously it's a great game, but saying that excuses the crappy porting is insane.

I didn't say it excuses it, I still find it strange a dude fixed the resolution in a week without the game and FROM couldn't do it. But im saying it's easy to look passed it and still enjoy the game. It's never been about visuals for these games and it never will.

Also I find it even more astonishing that people are acting shocked and surprised when we have known how bad it would be for months now.

"But im saying it's easy to look passed it and still enjoy the game. It's never been about visuals for these games and it never will."

Saying that is just a lame excuse. I thought Dark Souls was an amazing looking game when it came out on PS3. I would have really liked it if they gave it the standard PC treatment and upgraded the visuals slightly. I think there are multiple things that are awesome about Dark Souls. I think the audio, visuals, and gameplay are all great, I didn't come to Dark Souls to just fight monsters and explore. I came to Dark Souls to be sucked into a crazy weird world and get lost in it.

Also I find it even more astonishing that people are acting shocked and surprised when we have known how bad it would be for months now.

No we didn't, a lot of the talk about the visuals, GFWL, and FPS cap were all just rumors months ago. It's only been recent that those rumors were actually confirmed by major gaming websites. What we didn't know or heard any rumors about was the crappy Mouse and Keyboard controls. the 360 button prompts all over the menus, terrible AMD performance, etc

My god.....ok, I cant answer that question, but why harp on it? Dont get the game I dont give a **** i didnt make the game, i found a way to enjoy the game with out worrying why the developers did this or that, because I dont give a **** the game is good and very playable, not good enough for you because you live on a cloud, great dont buy it wont affect me one bit. Rip real gamers, rise of the crybabies. You people should get used to this because honestly since i have been a pc gamer about 4 years, I have noticed a trend of ports worse and worse and less exclusives, and more entitlement from the pc gamers,lol like they have buying power. It will never work out, to many people steal pc games, a hell of alot more then buy them, developers dont want to spend the extra money for nothing if you havent noticed we are in a world wide recession, yet the pc gamer entitlement still grows

Advid-Gamer

Sheesh calm down... and you're saying I'm a crybaby over this. How much sense of entitlement is there when I said that the game developers could've made the game work better on PC with simple things like resolution and control? Do you think it'd be awesome if every game came out like this? It very well could be a one off because I understand From Software's unfamiliarity with PC development and I'm overall happy that the game is here, but to say get used to the trend of poor ports? Why should we have to pay money for things that don't work well? And again, it doesn't have to be a perfect port - just nail the simple things. I know modders fix things and that's great for everyone, but it should not be a crutch for developers. You say we're in a recession, and that means money is harder to come by - of course people are going to want to spend it on quality goods.

And about the stealing games, if you make a good game - people will buy it. Simple as that. Plus I didn't say I wouldn't buy it, I eventually will. Just not at $40. I'm not even saying to boycott this game because in the end it's a fantastic game that I hope gets all of its issues fixed up.

There's no way I'd call it a masterpiece. It has fun and fluid gameplay and a nice atmosphere. It's really rough around the edges though.

Definitely worth a $5 steam sale around Christmas.

Personally I don't think it's a masterpiece. It has many poor or boring parts and others that are very good.

Masculus

Unreasonable resolution locks that were brken in 4 hours, 30 fps locks, no kb/m support WHATSOEVER. I don't know how good the game actually is, but what message are we sending to devs if we give our 40 euros for this, eh?

Now that the resolution lock was broken I will buy it, I can use my ps3 controller, and the 30fps lock is not a huge deal for me, but I won't pay full price for such a lazy port.

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

Personally I don't think it's a masterpiece. It has many poor or boring parts and others that are very good.

MBirdy88

Now I really wish there was a legit way to demo it.

As far as I'm concerned, Darksiders was a barebones port, looks like Dark Souls is less than that.

It does'nt sit well with me that a modder can unlock the resolution in time for launch. If FROM had such severe dificulties with the platform, it should have been outsourced.

I think the rabid apologists should cool off, criticism is swiftly met with scorn and juvenile insults; ironic considering "entitled kid" is the FOTM slogan of the apologist.

We did'nt get a release out of kindness, it's because a potential market was gauged. That's by no means an excuse to aim below the bar and expect us to be happy with it.

I feel like equipping my tinfoil hat. Where was the quality control? Who in their right mind allowed FROM to continue with the porting, when they litterally admitted that they were'nt up to the task?

My god.....ok, I cant answer that question, but why harp on it? Dont get the game I dont give a **** i didnt make the game, i found a way to enjoy the game with out worrying why the developers did this or that, because I dont give a **** the game is good and very playable, not good enough for you because you live on a cloud, great dont buy it wont affect me one bit. Rip real gamers, rise of the crybabies. You people should get used to this because honestly since i have been a pc gamer about 4 years, I have noticed a trend of ports worse and worse and less exclusives, and more entitlement from the pc gamers,lol like they have buying power. It will never work out, to many people steal pc games, a hell of alot more then buy them, developers dont want to spend the extra money for nothing if you havent noticed we are in a world wide recession, yet the pc gamer entitlement still grows

Advid-Gamer

It's called standards. You're the crybaby here considering how b!tchy your vapid attitude is.

You've been a PC gamer for about 4 years, yeah I don't believe that for a second. You have no clue of what you're saying and your head stuck up your ass. Bad ports happen from time to time but there's no actual trend in them. Early generation ports were much worse than what we're used to now, which is why the uproar regarding the game happened in the first place. And less exclusives? You must be either an all-seeing oracle or have your head stuck in the ground too, because the time when we were getting the least exclusives was exactly in 2008 and 2009 when you started "gaming".

I'm gonna buy it. Not immediately, but I'm gonna buy it.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Masculus"]

Personally I don't think it's a masterpiece. It has many poor or boring parts and others that are very good.

Tuzolord

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]My god.....ok, I cant answer that question, but why harp on it? Dont get the game I dont give a **** i didnt make the game, i found a way to enjoy the game with out worrying why the developers did this or that, because I dont give a **** the game is good and very playable, not good enough for you because you live on a cloud, great dont buy it wont affect me one bit. Rip real gamers, rise of the crybabies. You people should get used to this because honestly since i have been a pc gamer about 4 years, I have noticed a trend of ports worse and worse and less exclusives, and more entitlement from the pc gamers,lol like they have buying power. It will never work out, to many people steal pc games, a hell of alot more then buy them, developers dont want to spend the extra money for nothing if you havent noticed we are in a world wide recession, yet the pc gamer entitlement still grows

N30F3N1X

It's called standards. You're the crybaby here considering how b!tchy your vapid attitude is.

You've been a PC gamer for about 4 years, yeah I don't believe that for a second. You have no clue of what you're saying and your head stuck up your ass. Bad ports happen from time to time but there's no actual trend in them. Early generation ports were much worse than what we're used to now, which is why the uproar regarding the game happened in the first place. And less exclusives? You must be either an all-seeing oracle or have your head stuck in the ground too, because the time when we were getting the least exclusives was exactly in 2008 and 2009 when you started "gaming".

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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Because it deserves it's hate. Obviously it's a great game, but saying that excuses the crappy porting is insane.

JangoWuzHere

I didn't say it excuses it, I still find it strange a dude fixed the resolution in a week without the game and FROM couldn't do it. But im saying it's easy to look passed it and still enjoy the game. It's never been about visuals for these games and it never will.

Also I find it even more astonishing that people are acting shocked and surprised when we have known how bad it would be for months now.

Also I find it even more astonishing that people are acting shocked and surprised when we have known how bad it would be for months now.

No we didn't, a lot of the talk about the visuals, GFWL, and FPS cap were all just rumors months ago. It's only been recent that those rumors were actually confirmed by major gaming websites. What we didn't know or heard any rumors about was the crappy Mouse and Keyboard controls. the 360 button prompts all over the menus, terrible AMD performance, etc

Ill give you the button prompt thing but From software told us it would have minimal keyboard and mouse support and advised to use a controller, they confirmed about the resolution and fps cap too and even if they were just rumours (which I don't think they were, lots of places confirmed them months ago) it still should have been alarm bells for some who expected something spectacular or even a good port. It was always indicated that this was gonna be a bad port here, numerous threads were posted about it and should have prepared a lot of people. Don't be so naive saying "those were just rumours"

i would like to play this game to see whats all the fuss is about. though i dont think i can handle the difficulty of the game(i even find the mario gba games too be hard). wish there was a demo of it. stalker and dark souls are the games i would like to buy but i prefer to try them out before i buy them. just to know what i can expect. though i do like the atmosphere of both games.

Definitely worth a $5 steam sale around Christmas.

slimjimbadboy

i would like to play this game to see whats all the fuss is about. though i dont think i can handle the difficulty of the game(i even find the mario gba games too be hard). wish there was a demo of it. stalker and dark souls are the games i would like to buy but i prefer to try them out before i buy them. just to know what i can expect. though i do like the atmosphere of both games.

TheShadowLord07

I held an optimistic yet mostly objective view on this game until I actually tried it and it turns out the game is great. HDfix and change somekeybindings and it plays better than with a controller. Yes I posted this in multiple threads but the hate against this game is, IMO, mostly unjustified. There are so many ASSUMPTIONS, try something before you judge or shut it. Speculation on how bad you think it is is retarded.

I held an optimistic yet mostly objective view on this game until I actually tried it and it turns out the game is great. HDfix and change somekeybindings and it plays better than with a controller. Yes I posted this in multiple threads but the hate against this game is, IMO, mostly unjustified. There are so many ASSUMPTIONS, try something before you judge or shut it. Speculation on how bad you think it is is retarded.

PetJel

I play the game on PC with M/K and im not really assuming the controls are weird and broken - they are..

It's not impossible to overcome the technical problems and play with M/K, but it's sure as hell not easy either :P

A controller would probably be the best option atm. if you play the game, as the game is not really meant for mouse and keyboard.

My problem is, that I don't like to use a controller - I think it feels inferior, clumsy and slow compared to the good ol' mouse and keyboard.

I held an optimistic yet mostly objective view on this game until I actually tried it and it turns out the game is great. HDfix and change somekeybindings and it plays better than with a controller. Yes I posted this in multiple threads but the hate against this game is, IMO, mostly unjustified. There are so many ASSUMPTIONS, try something before you judge or shut it. Speculation on how bad you think it is is retarded.

PetJel

Most of us that have said negative things about the port have tried it...

its a terrible port of a good game, plain and simple.

Thank god for the resolution mod, modders save the day again.

For something that was petitioned to be on PC,it sure seems like they put no effort in living up to the very least in expectations of PC ports. Thats not saying much either.

As some of you people continue to bash and cry, the rez mod keeps getting updated, this guy his going all out and doing a fantastic job, game keeps looking better and better.

Basically what I got from this thread is: Great game, bad port, not worth $40 bucks for its quality. Steam sale will justify game.

As some of you people continue to bash and cry, the rez mod keeps getting updated, this guy his going all out and doing a fantastic job, game keeps looking better and better.

Advid-Gamer

Do remember to insult him too ;)

He was the one to exclaim that "From just did'nt give a f*ck".

Basically what I got from this thread is: Great game, bad port, not worth $40 bucks for its quality. Steam sale will justify game.

cdragon_88

Going on the quality of posters supporting it, I somehow suspect that it's not even a "great" game. A "masterpiece?" Yeah, right. Hyperbole much? From the videos I've seen, DS looks like another generic, console, action-rpg. Oh boy! We, like, never get those on the PC. :roll:

This appears to be a $5 bargain bin game, at best. I'll put as much effort into buying this as they put forth in porting it, so, yeah, maybe $5 is a bit on the high side after all.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

As some of you people continue to bash and cry, the rez mod keeps getting updated, this guy his going all out and doing a fantastic job, game keeps looking better and better.

MlauTheDaft

Do remember to insult him too ;)

He was the one to exclaim that "From just did'nt give a f*ck".

[QUOTE="cdragon_88"]

Basically what I got from this thread is: Great game, bad port, not worth $40 bucks for its quality. Steam sale will justify game.

-wildflower-

Going on the quality of posters supporting it, I somehow suspect that it's not even a "great" game. A "masterpiece?" Yeah, right. Hyperbole much? From the videos I've seen, DS looks like another generic, console, action-rpg. Oh boy! We, like, never get those on the PC. :roll:

This appears to be a $5 bargain bin game, at best. I'll put as much effort into buying this as they put forth in porting it, so, yeah, maybe $5 is a bit on the high side after all.

Going on the quality of posters supporting it, I somehow suspect that it's not even a "great" game. A "masterpiece?" Yeah, right. Hyperbole much? From the videos I've seen, DS looks like another generic, console, action-rpg. Oh boy! We, like, never get those on the PC. :roll:

This appears to be a $5 bargain bin game, at best. I'll put as much effort into buying this as they put forth in porting it, so, yeah, maybe $5 is a bit on the high side after all.

-wildflower-

It adheres to old school RPGs formulas much more than most other RPGs this gen.

Don't let the videos fool you, the game has a sh!tton of depth to it. There's no way you could call it generic.

[QUOTE="cdragon_88"]

Basically what I got from this thread is: Great game, bad port, not worth $40 bucks for its quality. Steam sale will justify game.

-wildflower-

Going on the quality of posters supporting it, I somehow suspect that it's not even a "great" game. A "masterpiece?" Yeah, right. Hyperbole much? From the videos I've seen, DS looks like another generic, console, action-rpg. Oh boy! We, like, never get those on the PC. :roll:

This appears to be a $5 bargain bin game, at best. I'll put as much effort into buying this as they put forth in porting it, so, yeah, maybe $5 is a bit on the high side after all.

[QUOTE="cdragon_88"]

Basically what I got from this thread is: Great game, bad port, not worth $40 bucks for its quality. Steam sale will justify game.

-wildflower-

Going on the quality of posters supporting it, I somehow suspect that it's not even a "great" game. A "masterpiece?" Yeah, right. Hyperbole much? From the videos I've seen, DS looks like another generic, console, action-rpg. Oh boy! We, like, never get those on the PC. :roll:

This appears to be a $5 bargain bin game, at best. I'll put as much effort into buying this as they put forth in porting it, so, yeah, maybe $5 is a bit on the high side after all.

Just like diablo 3 is another over hyoed and overrated generic pc action click fest. OH boy! we, like, never get those on the pc every year :roll:

Sheesh. The idiots on these boards never cease to amaze me. Just because a game happens to show up on a console first automatically means it's generic console trash? keep it up

[QUOTE="cdragon_88"]

Basically what I got from this thread is: Great game, bad port, not worth $40 bucks for its quality. Steam sale will justify game.

-wildflower-

Going on the quality of posters supporting it, I somehow suspect that it's not even a "great" game. A "masterpiece?" Yeah, right. Hyperbole much? From the videos I've seen, DS looks like another generic, console, action-rpg. Oh boy! We, like, never get those on the PC. :roll:

This appears to be a $5 bargain bin game, at best. I'll put as much effort into buying this as they put forth in porting it, so, yeah, maybe $5 is a bit on the high side after all.

In 30+ years of gaming, DS was one of my top 3 of all time. I would definitely call it a masterpiece. Its a throw back to the old days of gaming. However, I would probably rate Demon Souls above that. Its not a masterpiece because of pretty graphics or framerates. The console version had technical flaws too. Its just an extremely well conceived and implemented game.

DS is anything but a generic, console, action-rpg. It is more reminscent of hardcore PC games froom about 15-20 years ago. That's why so many people were baffled that they didn't release it for PC in the first place.

Pretty soon you will see an influx of PC gamers praising it--at least the ones who were willing to look past the pathological hate directed towards it and who are willing to plug in a controller.

I have yet to run into any issues with the port. I installed it. It works. Its superior to the console version. I could give a **** that it doesn't take advantage of my $420 video card or my kb/m. People are still **** about the resolution-even though there is a mod to fix it. Isn't that one of the reason they begged for a port...mods?

On PS3 it was just a great game. The port, even though it has flaws, is still a great game. I just got done with a 3 hour session without any issues.

I find the hate directed towards this port really weird and pathological. I sincerely think there is something wrong with these people. They would rather have a crappy game ported perfectly than even try a barebones port of a great game which works just fine.

Even in its current condition, if this were a PC exclusive the same people that are hating, would be bragging about it.

Some PC gamers really have issues and need to chill, get some perspective, and step out of the basement from time to time. Pretend for day that PC gaming isn't your religion and its just there for fun.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

[QUOTE="cdragon_88"]

Basically what I got from this thread is: Great game, bad port, not worth $40 bucks for its quality. Steam sale will justify game.

Mr_Ditters

Going on the quality of posters supporting it, I somehow suspect that it's not even a "great" game. A "masterpiece?" Yeah, right. Hyperbole much? From the videos I've seen, DS looks like another generic, console, action-rpg. Oh boy! We, like, never get those on the PC. :roll:

This appears to be a $5 bargain bin game, at best. I'll put as much effort into buying this as they put forth in porting it, so, yeah, maybe $5 is a bit on the high side after all.

In 30+ years of gaming, DS was one of my top 3 of all time. I would definitely call it a masterpiece. Its a throw back to the old days of gaming. However, I would probably rate Demon Souls above that. Its not a masterpiece because of pretty graphics or framerates. The console version had technical flaws too. Its just an extremely well conceived and implemented game.

DS is anything but a generic, console, action-rpg. It is more reminscent of hardcore PC games froom about 15-20 years ago. That's why so many people were baffled that they didn't release it for PC in the first place.

Pretty soon you will see an influx of PC gamers praising it--at least the ones who were willing to look past the pathological hate directed towards it and who are willing to plug in a controller.

I have yet to run into any issues with the port. I installed it. It works. Its superior to the console version. I could give a **** that it doesn't take advantage of my $420 video card or my kb/m. People are still **** about the resolution-even though there is a mod to fix it. Isn't that one of the reason they begged for a port...mods?

On PS3 it was just a great game. The port, even though it has flaws, is still a great game. I just got done with a 3 hour session without any issues.

I find the hate directed towards this port really weird and pathological. I sincerely think there is something wrong with these people. They would rather have a crappy game ported perfectly than even try a barebones port of a great game which works just fine.

Even in its current condition, if this were a PC exclusive the same people that are hating, would be bragging about it.

Some PC gamers really have issues and need to chill, get some perspective, and step out of the basement from time to time. Pretend for day that PC gaming isn't your religion and its just there for fun.

too late for that. I'm really glad that a lot of people are enjoying this masterpiece of a game, PORT OR NOT. uNDERNEATH the barebones port job lies a fantastic game. I've seen lots of so called pc gamers on these boards hype and recommend some of the most broken and ugly pc only games out there (risen 2, vampire masquerade, mount and blade, skyrim), touting how the gameplay is all that matters (the irony and hypocrisy) simply because said broken games are pc exlusives or superior on pc.

When skyrim came out and needed tons of modding to be even remotely playable (4gb awareness mod, high resolution textures, UI mod, and many more) not once did some of these so called "true pc gamers" rant or whine about it. Didn't notice any threads by kozzy on steam forums about any of those problems at all.

Glad that this game came along, made me realize the level of hypocrisy and hubris that plagues these boards. "True" pc gamers my butt

Dark Souls is a masterpiece but apparently a big chunk of the PC community at Gamespot doesn't care about how good a game is. Their view on what makes a game good is so warped it's unbelievable. It's all about resolution and framerates closer to 60 than 30. If they can't have these things, they'll start to cry and "Waaaaah, I don't wanna!!". The sad thing is most of them have absolutely no idea how special Dark Souls is.x-2tha-z

I can't be assed to read the whole thread but this pisses me off to no end. We're lucky Dark Souls even made it to the PC, then people get all pissy over limitations that can't be helped due to time and money constraints. When you look at the bigger picture - excellent game with capped rate, decent graphics and GFWL, it's really not that bad and won't stop you from enjoying the game.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Dark Souls is a masterpiece but apparently a big chunk of the PC community at Gamespot doesn't care about how good a game is. Their view on what makes a game good is so warped it's unbelievable. It's all about resolution and framerates closer to 60 than 30. If they can't have these things, they'll start to cry and "Waaaaah, I don't wanna!!". The sad thing is most of them have absolutely no idea how special Dark Souls is.cyborg100000

I can't be assed to read the whole thread but this pisses me off to no end. We're lucky Dark Souls even made it to the PC, then people get all pissy over limitations that can't be helped due to time and money constraints. When you look at the bigger picture - excellent game with capped rate, decent graphics and GFWL, it's really not that bad and won't stop you from enjoying the game.

[QUOTE="cyborg100000"]

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Dark Souls is a masterpiece but apparently a big chunk of the PC community at Gamespot doesn't care about how good a game is. Their view on what makes a game good is so warped it's unbelievable. It's all about resolution and framerates closer to 60 than 30. If they can't have these things, they'll start to cry and "Waaaaah, I don't wanna!!". The sad thing is most of them have absolutely no idea how special Dark Souls is.KHAndAnime

I can't be assed to read the whole thread but this pisses me off to no end. We're lucky Dark Souls even made it to the PC, then people get all pissy over limitations that can't be helped due to time and money constraints. When you look at the bigger picture - excellent game with capped rate, decent graphics and GFWL, it's really not that bad and won't stop you from enjoying the game.

Great game with some issues doesn't seem like a cash grab to me. I know many great games that release with notable flaws like New Vegas, but the problems didn't stop me from really enjoying the game. We're not being used anyway; you can make up your own mind if you want the game or not - at least we're warned before buying it.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="cyborg100000"]

I can't be assed to read the whole thread but this pisses me off to no end. We're lucky Dark Souls even made it to the PC, then people get all pissy over limitations that can't be helped due to time and money constraints. When you look at the bigger picture - excellent game with capped rate, decent graphics and GFWL, it's really not that bad and won't stop you from enjoying the game.

cyborg100000

Great game with some issues doesn't seem like a cash grab to me. I know many great games that release with notable flaws like New Vegas, but the problems didn't stop me from really enjoying the game. We're not being used anyway; you can make up your own mind if you want the game or not - at least we're warned before buying it.

Well it wasn't made for the PC brother, it was made for the consoles. They poorly ported it to the PC so that they could grab easy cash, hence the term "cash grab". Make enough sense for you?

I already own the game on the PS3. I've been looking for any excuse to buy the game on PC, but From Software hasn't given me one. I was even going to buy two additional copies (planned on it from the start). I'm sure there are other PC gamers too who love to own their games on the PC as opposed to the console. Instead of putting in the effort and gaining mass respect and money, they pretty much pissed off an entire platform's audience.

From Software is a bunch of boneheads, and you're a bonehead if you defend them. People like you are lowering the standards for everyone else (who actually care about and enjoy the platform). I'm sured none of this occured to you.

I beat it on Xbox 360 earlier this year, and I'm buying it again for my PC. Why? Because it is, in my opinion anway, one of the most engrossing, satisfying games I have ever played, in the same league at Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Half-Life 2. The Metroidvania style exploration mixed with a great stat-based leveling system and original "souls" experience system gives it a flavor of its own, and the art style is incredible. The difficulty is nothing but a love letter to old-school gamers who appreciate a challenge. You will die a lot, but you will know why you died and you learn patterns from your enemies, where traps are, and better ways to traverse this dark and unforgiving world. Whenever I get the chance I love to tell people about this game and why they should at least try it if they are old-school gamers.

The PC port could have been better, but if you can look past the low res textures and Windows Live implementation and play it with a good gamepad, you'll find it's a truly excellent game. I'm a PC gamer through and through, but sometimes you gotta know when it's worth looking past minor blemishes and just enjoy the damn thing.

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I beat it on Xbox 360 earlier this year, and I'm buying it again for my PC. Why? Because it is, in my opinion anway, one of the most engrossing, satisfying games I have ever played, in the same league at Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Half-Life 2. The Metroidvania style exploration mixed with a great stat-based leveling system and original "souls" experience system gives it a flavor of its own, and the art style is incredible. The difficulty is nothing but a love letter to old-school gamers who appreciate a challenge. You will die a lot, but you will know why you died and you learn patterns from your enemies, where traps are, and better ways to traverse this dark and unforgiving world. Whenever I get the chance I love to tell people about this game and why they should at least try it if they are old-school gamers.

The PC port could have been better, but if you can look past the low res textures and Windows Live implementation and play it with a good gamepad, you'll find it's a truly excellent game. I'm a PC gamer through and through, but sometimes you gotta know when it's worth looking past minor blemishes and just enjoy the damn thing.

mynameisjosh657