Again The Console **** pc gamers!

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#1 darkvision666
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Im a huge PC gamer.. and its sad to see all my developers going to the darkside (consoles). I know they can make more money that way but still.

What pisses me off the most is how it hurts the games. Today i was reading an article on gamespot about how

"Keynote sees horror game "officially" revealed...again; Carmack confirms open-world driving game too big for two Xbox 360 discs, prompting lower-grade graphics; no Quake 5 in the works"

wtf... . you hear about this all the time, how games have to be shorter or have there graphics down-graded because of the console. We get horrible interfaces. We did the whole "we were limited by the consoles r"this" or "that" and hd space or cd,dvd size..."

Am i the only PC gamer who is sick of pc only developers running to consoles and giving us less of a game?

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#2 naval
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well you would be happy to hear that the low grade textures are only for 360 (in this case) as all the textures will be installed in uncompressed format on HDD in case of pcs
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#3 foggy666
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you can say im pissed, but I lost my passion for gaming, so I don't care too much anymore, I only play Company of Heroes now.
the consolazation of PC gaming is without doubt a devastating trend, but you can't do too much about it, if you are a game publisher your main focus is to make money, to make more money you should develop for as many people as possible, developing separate games for each platform is money and time consuming, so you develop to the weakest platform and port it the rest.
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#4 XaosII
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Yeah only the 360 version is affected. The PS3 and PC versions remain fine.

They couldnt fit everything they wanted on 2 discs so they used higher compression on the textures for the 360 version. They said 3 discs wouldnt be economically fasible for the 360 because MS imposes a heavy disc fee for each additional disc.

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#5 Pinkyimp
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I would rather have Devlopers be like ID software (both sides but still knows there true roots) instead of idiots like Epic Games who just abondoned there heaven for console games...
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#6 Skeptomania
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The consoles screw each other if not having every game is getting "Fu@$". The Wii doesn't have GTA4, the 360 doesn't have Metal Gear and the PS3 doesn't have Halo. There are plenty of good PC games out there. PLENTY. If you can't find a good PC game to play, you're not looking hard.
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#7 foggy666
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Yeah only the 360 version is affected. The PS3 and PC versions remain fine.

They couldnt fit everything they wanted on 2 discs so they used higher compression on the textures for the 360 version. They said 3 discs wouldnt be economically fasible for the 360 because MS imposes a heavy disc fee for each additional disc.

XaosII

disk fee? wow, are they money hungry or what, well they're not called M$ for nothing right?

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#8 pilouuuu2004
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Anyway Doom 4 will have enhanced graphics for the PC. PCs will always be better!
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#9 chesterocks7
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I honestly don't care and think PC whiners need to just drop it. The multiplatform games that have come out over the past year (The Orange Box, Gears of War, Assassin's Creed, etc.) were all amazing, and wouldn't have been better if they were PC exclusive. And if the great companies are getting more money for their productions, they will have more money to spend on making the next big title even better. I really think you people hate the idea of PC exclusives going to consoles more than the actual effects it has on the games.
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#10 purple_MAN1832
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At least its only for the 360 version. Also, I wouldn't doubt that someone would try to use the engine to make a texture mod to improve the graphics somewhere along the lines after its release.
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#11 harrisi17
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But the 360 is getting the crap version, we get the best :)
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#12 HenriH-42
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I really think you people hate the idea of PC exclusives going to consoles more than the actual effects it has on the games.chesterocks7

Deus Ex -> Deus Ex Invisible War.

A sequel, to one of the greatest games of all time, made by the SAME DEV TEAM, somehow turns out to be utter crap. Hmm, the original was PC only (ported to consoles LATER.) The sequel was developed on Xbox and was restricted by it's technical limitations. Hmm... :roll:

Translation: We hate PC exclusives going to consoles because it restricts what the devs can do, and it usually means that the game WILL be dumbed down for the masses - And this has been proven many, many times.

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#13 OriginalWangstr
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It's ok, here are the top 5 reasons PC gamers will always be better than console gamers:

http://news.gotgame.com/top-five-reasons-to-invest-in-a-computer-over-a-console/

In your face console gamers (although I have a PSP and DS... those don't count)

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#14 drphizzle0
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The bottom line is that this isn't something we can blame the developers for. People pirate PC games all the time and sooner or later it will catch up to the PC gaming industry. It has now. These companies run a business and PC gamers that pirate anything are taking away from sales that otherwise would have been acquired thrhough buying the game legally.

If you want to make a change, then encourage people you know to stop stealing games and destroying their own platform.

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#15 Elann2008
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If the 360 version is getting affected, from now on, I will be buying PC versions. As a matter of fact, ever since I built a new PC, I'll be buying multiplatform games on the PC because of better graphics. This wont affect me but it may affect gamers who are only limited to a certain console. I was going to buy Far Cry 2 for the 360 but I'll be shortending myself if I didnt buy it for the PC. I'm loving PC gaming right now. Better graphics, smoother gameplay, and keyboard + mouse is fun for me again.
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OMG slightly inferior graphics...how awful! Truly the bane of modern gaming.
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#19 chesterocks7
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[QUOTE="chesterocks7"]I really think you people hate the idea of PC exclusives going to consoles more than the actual effects it has on the games.HenriH-42

Deus Ex -> Deus Ex Invisible War.

A sequel, to one of the greatest games of all time, made by the SAME DEV TEAM, somehow turns out to be utter crap. Hmm, the original was PC only (ported to consoles LATER.) The sequel was developed on Xbox and was restricted by it's technical limitations. Hmm... :roll:

Translation: We hate PC exclusives going to consoles because it restricts what the devs can do, and it usually means that the game WILL be dumbed down for the masses - And this has been proven many, many times.

Ok, that's one valid example, but it will take a lot more than that to convince me. As far as I can see, the majority of multi-platform games are very good across the boards, and would not have been better if they were PC exclusive. And even some of the sequals that come out are highly acclaimed by lots of people. It seems the fanboys are the ones who really have problems with the sequals because they're not carbon copies of their favorite games.

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#20 fryerjackets
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if all of you are so angry about this then get off the internet and do something about it.
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#21 mracoon
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It's only lower graphics for the 360.
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#22 Johnny_Rock
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Im a huge PC gamer.. and its sad to see all my developers going to the darkside (consoles). I know they can make more money that way but still.

What pisses me off the most is how it hurts the games. Today i was reading an article on gamespot about how

"Keynote sees horror game "officially" revealed...again; Carmack confirms open-world driving game too big for two Xbox 360 discs, prompting lower-grade graphics; no Quake 5 in the works"

wtf... . you hear about this all the time, how games have to be shorter or have there graphics down-graded because of the console. We get horrible interfaces. We did the whole "we were limited by the consoles r"this" or "that" and hd space or cd,dvd size..."

Am i the only PC gamer who is sick of pc only developers running to consoles and giving us less of a game?

darkvision666

As long as game developers see their profits drizzle away because of piracy, this is going to happen; and frankly, get worse.

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#23 G013M
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Hey guys, this is more of a System Wars topic, then something that belongs in PC Games ;).