Am I actually bad in BC2?

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#1 gigatrainer
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I know replies in this post won't stop me from playing this game, so feel free to reply your honest opinion. I'm Level 20, Have 1.7k kills and 3.3k deaths, thats 0.53 Kill/Death ratio. I've completely unlocked every weapon and gadget in Assault class(I got 76k exp in that), am quite ahead in Medic class(50k exp). I got a few unlocks with Engineer(17k exp) and am trying out Recon(6k exp). I keep trying out different classes and weapon combinations to see what is better, I also keep switching to try out something. So what do you think?
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#2 KHAndAnime
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Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad.
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#3 gigatrainer
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Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. KHAndAnime
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#4 mrkiasume
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Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. KHAndAnime

serious? my K/D ratio is 0.63. damn. i thought i was doing well.

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#5 yourmajesty90
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Well, don't want to be too blunt, but you better n00btube to increase that ratio :P

I'm guilty of n00btubing, but it's all part of good fun. I love explosions and ragdolls flying! My K/d ratio is of 1.04 and got 1815 kills and 1735 deaths. Pretty average really

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#6 gigatrainer
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Surprisingly I'm usually on top 5 in my time on 99% of games. It is that I usually play when I'm tired and play it like a run and fire type of game. I'm not too proud of it, but it is still fun! And in beginning I used to suck at it(At one point I had like 700 deaths and 50 kills).
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#7 mhofever
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It's actually pretty normal for people like me at level 21 to have something lower than a 1 K/D ratio since because when we started playing the game, we just pretty much sucked and died over and over and over again. I know I did :P

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#8 gigatrainer
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It's actually pretty normal for people like me at level 16 to have something lower than a 1 K/D ratio since because when we started playing the game, we just pretty much sucked and died over and over and over again. I know I did :P

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Yeah, plus I'm not much of a FPS player, IMO I am much better in RTSies.
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#9 mhofever
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[QUOTE="mhofever"]

It's actually pretty normal for people like me at level 16 to have something lower than a 1 K/D ratio since because when we started playing the game, we just pretty much sucked and died over and over and over again. I know I did :P

gigatrainer

Yeah, plus I'm not much of a FPS player, IMO I am much better in RTSies.

Personally I also think it's because we start out with the crappiest guns when at level 1 unless you have the M1 rifle and can start kicking some sniper's ass with it.

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#10 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. mrkiasume

serious? my K/D ratio is 0.63. damn. i thought i was doing well.

My K/D is 1.21 and I fool around 90% of the time I play. Under K/D of 1 is just poor. :P
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#11 GeryGo  Moderator
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well, in this insane game I wouldn't be surprised

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#12 yourmajesty90
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[QUOTE="gigatrainer"][QUOTE="mhofever"]

It's actually pretty normal for people like me at level 16 to have something lower than a 1 K/D ratio since because when we started playing the game, we just pretty much sucked and died over and over and over again. I know I did :P

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Yeah, plus I'm not much of a FPS player, IMO I am much better in RTSies.

Personally I also think it's because we start out with the crappiest guns when at level 1 unless you have the M1 rifle and can start kicking some sniper's ass with it.

I actually always used the assault class and used the grenade launcher. I gradually improved and started to use other classes. So far, I only need to unlock everything in the medic and recon class (Almost there for the M95). I'm level 21 too.

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#13 aura_enchanted
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mines at like what 2.31 kdr? thanks mainly to my total random acts of violence ft. shotgun.

seriously me and shotgun never go anywhere alone and i have been rewarded for it with many rolled heads.

though i havent unlocked a full class yet (nearly full assault, medic and engineer havent really dabbled in vehicles but i have 1 or two + limited edition gear and recon is at about half way..ish)

i do enjoy my time in multiplayer but i am starting to loose interest..mainly because of a PILE of games i got off steam :P

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#14 warmaster670
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Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. KHAndAnime

To bad K/D ratio only matters in deathmatch, if your not willing to die in BC2 your a crappy player, and most people are to concerned with not dying to actually help win anything.

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#15 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. warmaster670

To bad K/D ratio only matters in deathmatch, if your not willing to die in BC2 your a crappy player, and most people are to concerned with not dying to actually help win anything.

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Enjoy the game, nobody cares if you have o.oo1 as long as it's still fun for you, just don't be like the elite failures with high KDR that just watch over the battlefield and kill players while they don't do anything about the M-COM stations, that's below them, they're too good to care about winning the game and letting others enjoy that session too.

If it bothers you that much just delete your soldier and start from scratch.

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#16 dos4gw82
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I've found that players with bad K/D ratios are sometimes the only ones in a map who actually get things done. I'dtake one of those on my team instead of an "elite" 3.0 K/D sniper any day.

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#17 Dr_Brocoli
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you can get first in every match with 0 KDR, KDR means nothing in BC2 since you can get points for support and doing objectives.
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#18 m185273
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As said above the whole point of the game is too; a) Complete objectives b) Support your team mates by using your classes specialty (heal, revive, ammo, repair & spot) While trying to unlock the medic awards for healing/reviving I got something like 7 kills 13 deaths but was the best player on either team by about 500 points. This is deliberatly designed by the programmers to encourage team work and not camping while aiming for a good k/d ratio.
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#19 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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KDR is a rather flawed measure of skill in this game. You could die many times, but get revived by supportive teammates, yet the deaths will still remain there even if you technically remained "alive" on the front-lines due to revives. Most people who I see who have really good KDRs are either snipers or people in tanks who just sit far back and shoot without actually helping their teams advance.
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#20 mechwarrior_bob
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1.47 I used to be 1.8 but it seems the game has gotten lamer since it came out. I miss beta :cry:

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#21 gigatrainer
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Thanks for the comments guys, I actually do try to help my teammates(Repairs, medics, captures m-coms etc.). So I guess I ain't that bad :).
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#22 yourmajesty90
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Thanks for the comments guys, I actually do try to help my teammates(Repairs, medics, captures m-coms etc.). So I guess I ain't that bad :).gigatrainer

Try to win always. It's so annoying though when you're the defending team on Rush and the attackers are all recons. They spam mortars like there's no tomorrow

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#23 1kalli1
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I'd say you are very bad, to have not unlocked all the guns at level 20 and that crappy k/d ratio is very bad. I unlocked all guns at level 17-18.
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#24 DanielDust
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I'd say you are very bad, to have not unlocked all the guns at level 20 and that crappy k/d ratio is very bad. I unlocked all guns at level 17-18.1kalli1
Maybe he doesn't like all the classes? I know I don't, I barely played with the medic and engineer and I won't start to in the near future, I'll probably give up on the game sooner.
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#25 gigatrainer
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I'd say you are very bad, to have not unlocked all the guns at level 20 and that crappy k/d ratio is very bad. I unlocked all guns at level 17-18.1kalli1
Why do I even care for unlocking guns? I am not the kind of person who'd have every weapon/achievement in a game. I play a lot of the same classes/combo that I like. Recently I could get used to Medic.
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#26 tehsystemwarior
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Doesnt matter really. Even if you suck in BF BC 2, you can still help out your team by medicing them and blowing up vehicles and spotting.
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#27 polarwrath11
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Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. KHAndAnime
Technically, having a 1 K/D isn't bad, but precisely the average :P - although I guess you did say under. And if this game is anything like COD...
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#28 gamerguy845
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I am at about 3k kills and 2.2 deaths. That's a 1.2 + Ratio. Keep practicing, also played focues game modes to decrease those "wtf" kills. I prefer Rush
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#29 aura_enchanted
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I am at about 3k kills and 2.2 deaths. That's a 1.2 + Ratio. Keep practicing, also played focues game modes to decrease those "wtf" kills. I prefer Rushgamerguy845

/agree rush is very win.

i also enjoy a good conquest now and then.

deathmatch was never my thing really ever since seriously warped DM stole my heart

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#30 Philmon
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I don't play a lot of online shooters, I have not played BC2, I don't know you, I have not seen you play BC2 and know very little about the game, but if you are asking for my opinion then yes you are really bad at BC2, trust me.
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#31 DragonfireXZ95
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Surprisingly I'm usually on top 5 in my time on 99% of games. It is that I usually play when I'm tired and play it like a run and fire type of game. I'm not too proud of it, but it is still fun! And in beginning I used to suck at it(At one point I had like 700 deaths and 50 kills).gigatrainer

I always run and gun and kept a 1.34 kd ratio. lol

EDIT: Oh, it's up at 1.35 now.

It's okay though, as long as you have fun, who really cares.

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#32 JN_Fenrir
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K/D means nothing in a team-oriented game like BC2. What matters is supporting your team and accomplishing the objective. Even if your team suffers the most casualties, a victory is still a victory. If you find that you aren't too good with the weapons, try to find other ways to be good at helping your team. Focus on your strengths while improving your weaknesses as much as possible.

Most importantly though, focus on having fun. It always kills me to see "l33t" morons in public servers taking a game way too seriously.

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#33 Amigro
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. I'm also around the .6ish mark and don't really care.

My experience is this game is much harder to get kills if you don't have the upgraded weapons that it can take so long to get. Once you start getting all the unlocks, you will prolly start goin up.

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#34 Litchie
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Got a k/d of 1.38.. 8)

Recently downgraded from 1.39, though. :( I was totally going for 1.40..

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#35 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. DanielDust

To bad K/D ratio only matters in deathmatch, if your not willing to die in BC2 your a crappy player, and most people are to concerned with not dying to actually help win anything.

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Enjoy the game, nobody cares if you have o.oo1 as long as it's still fun for you, just don't be like the elite failures with high KDR that just watch over the battlefield and kill players while they don't do anything about the M-COM stations, that's below them, they're too good to care about winning the game and letting others enjoy that session too.

If it bothers you that much just delete your soldier and start from scratch.

Having a low K/D doesn't mean you're a team player. It means you can't seem to kill people more than you die. Having a high K/D means you kill more players than you die. It doesn't necessarily mean you sit back and snipe. If you can't do something as simple as killing one player for every time you die - you're a bad player in my opinion. Chances are the people with higher K/Ds are accomplishing objectives without dying as much. When I played BC2, me and my partner won most games mainly because we were on them. We had the highest score, highest K/D, and did the most teamwork.

K/D isn't everything and I acknowledge that K/D isn't *the* measurement of a job well done in this game - but if it's under 1 - then you're bad. Anyone can sit back and spam medkits and revive, but it takes skilled players to kill other players and accomplish objectives.

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#36 ttam01
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Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. KHAndAnime

Your K/D doesn't mean a thing! I would gladly die if it meant my team would win.

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#37 AlphaJC
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anything above 1.0 is where you want to be, but honestly if you are having fun then it really doesn't matter. Most of the super hardcore Battlefild players play BF2 anyway so you don't need to worry about people getting mad too much. Besides if there were "elite players" then they might jsut have their server password protected anyway.
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#38 morrowindnic
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If you are a medic(like myself), KDR is useless.

Also if you go for the objectives instead of a good KDR it's pointless.

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#39 Makari
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Having a high K/D means you kill more players than you die. It doesn't necessarily mean you sit back and snipe.KHAndAnime
Heh.. yeah. I play like an idiot (would much rather charge in and die than sit and wait), and have a 1.3ish ratio out of around 2000 kills. I have more knife kills than I do CG kills (and something like 2-3x as many kills with the PP-2000 compared to the CG). My highest sniper rifle is the VSS at 55, which I used like an assault rifle. The second highest sniper rifle is... 11 kills. 3rd highest is 0. And 13 smoke grenade kills, which were hilarious and hard-earned. Suffice to say, I don't like camping from a distance or 'being safe.' It works out okay! Seriously though, paying attention or stressing about K/D ratio in particular is just silly.
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#40 knight0151
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Surprisingly I'm usually on top 5 in my time on 99% of games. It is that I usually play when I'm tired and play it like a run and fire type of game. I'm not too proud of it, but it is still fun! And in beginning I used to suck at it(At one point I had like 700 deaths and 50 kills).gigatrainer

Hmm. It doesn't look like much of a problem, that means you actually do your objectives. But just learn to control your recoil and do less running and gunning. You're fine.

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#41 Rheorin
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The most important thing is - Are you having fun? Don't get carried away by all this KDR hype. This is not friggin' COD. This is Bad Company 2, and things work a little differently here. Check the leaderboards at the end of each round. Chances are, half the time, the leader will be someone who has a KDR of less than 1. That's the way the game was designed - to encourage teamwork and be objective-oriented rather than go COD-rambo. And eventually, you'll get better too. But, as I've said before, whether you have a KDR of 10 or less than 1, the most important thing is that you have fun. That is the whole purpose of the game. Some people have fun by getting high KDR, some by being the helpful guy on the team who revives/repairs/resupplies/spots, and some by just goofing around within the game. It's all about finding the sweet spot that makes you enjoy the game and encourages you to keep playing it.
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#42 nutcrackr
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Kill Death Ratio is a general idicator of proficiency in combat. It's pretty much the probability that you will be living after each battle. Now you also need to look at score per minute. Are you helping your team more, kill assists, med heals, ammo etc. None of that is KDR. Then there is capture score. Are you pushing forwad. Defense score? Pins, maybe you are good on the stationary guns, but its very easy to die on those things you will be providing some resistance to attack. What about your win loss ration, above 1, or below 1?
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#43 Dante2710
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Are you enjoying the game? If so then dont worry about your K/D ration.
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#44 Pvt_r3d
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[QUOTE="mrkiasume"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. KHAndAnime

serious? my K/D ratio is 0.63. damn. i thought i was doing well.

My K/D is 1.21 and I fool around 90% of the time I play. Under K/D of 1 is just poor. :P

Here is mine. Bad Company 2 Stats Believe it or not, I always go for the objectives no matter what. That seemed to have caused me to get all those kills since there would most likely be a lot of enemies near a flag or crate. And for the topic poster, don't worry about you k/d ratio, as long as you are helping the team in some way then you are doing great. Like the others have said, just enjoy the game. This is just the way I play.
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#45 gigatrainer
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Here's mine Dragooon. Apparently I got a score per minute of 119, not bad I guess.
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#46 tutt3r
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If your medic then you probably get a lot of points healing and reviving teammates which is a good thing. However since BFBC 2 game modes just come down to kills, then having a negative K/D isn't so good. Just stop getting killed so much (i know sound easier than it is sometimes) and yeah you can be considered good b/c your a good team player as medic

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#47 gigatrainer
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If your medic then you probably get a lot of points healing and reviving teammates which is a good thing. However since BFBC 2 game modes just come down to kills, then having a negative K/D isn't so good. Just stop getting killed so much (i know sound easier than it is sometimes) and yeah you can be considered good b/c your a good team player as medic

tutt3r
I have not always been a medic, I started out as assault, went sometime to engineer and then to medic. Currently trying to completely unlock everything medic has to offer.
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#48 Pvt_r3d
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[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

If your medic then you probably get a lot of points healing and reviving teammates which is a good thing. However since BFBC 2 game modes just come down to kills, then having a negative K/D isn't so good. Just stop getting killed so much (i know sound easier than it is sometimes) and yeah you can be considered good b/c your a good team player as medic

gigatrainer
I have not always been a medic, I started out as assault, went sometime to engineer and then to medic. Currently trying to completely unlock everything medic has to offer.

I'll add you to my bad company 2 friends list and we can play together sometime.
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#49 SickStench
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Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. KHAndAnime


Not really considering the hit markers are way off. It takes 10 sniper shots to kill anyone, and at least 3 shotgun blasts. Which realistically it would be 1 and you're done.

This game is just terrible. You're not horrible at it by any means. Dice is just horrible at making games, that's all.

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#50 tutt3r
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Under 1 K/D ratio, especially in this game - is pretty bad. SickStench



Not really considering the hit markers are way off. It takes 10 sniper shots to kill anyone, and at least 3 shotgun blasts. Which realistically it would be 1 and you're done.

This game is just terrible. You're not horrible at it by any means. Dice is just horrible at making games, that's all.

a game you don't like =/= a bad game lol