AMD silent no longer...

AMD showed off a 3ghz Barcelona with a tri-HD2900XT setup...
I wonder what happened to all these clock speed problems?
Looks like I was right to say this is exactly like the K8 Opty launch and that they were sand bagging.

Anyways, AMD released a bunch of info about their future.
Now you people might realize why I was so vehemently defending AMD from the BS that was being posted.

AMD showed off a 3ghz Barcelona with a tri-HD2900XT setup...
I wonder what happened to all these clock speed problems?
Looks like I was right to say this is exactly like the K8 Opty launch and that they were sand bagging.

Anyways, AMD released a bunch of info about their future.
Now you people might realize why I was so vehemently defending AMD from the BS that was being posted.

LordEC911

AMD is back on top! Hear that Intel?! You're going down! Woot! Go AMD! Yeah....

AMD sucks.

Nah, I'm just kidding. Never seen a setup with 3 GPUs running at once, didn't think that was possible. Looks like Intel will finally get some competition.

To bad I'm going intel(getting a e6300 for $80, can't pass that up, or else I would of went with a x2 6000) and won't upgrade for a long time =(.

Just a note, they're not likely to release a 3 GHz Phenom until the first half of 2008.

Now that they've shed some light on "Bulldozer" who cares about the much delayed Barcelona?
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3050&p=5

They make it sound like that core is going to be an epic step for history of computing.

Is this processor supposed to compete with Intel's Penryn?firefly026

If you mean will, then yes it is.

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]AMD have always been a good company, just that their dual core processors were not nearly as good as the Intel Core 2 processor line, especially for the hardcore computer gamer who likes to overclock, Intel is generally the way to go. I wonder if AMD's new processors are going to be cheaper then the Intel ones, although I got an E6600 OEM for 200 CAD which is dirt cheap for such a good CPU and AMD would be hard pressed to make a processor as good for that price seeing as how originally the E6600 was like 600 dollars here in Canada over a year ago.LordEC911

Expect price/performance to compete with Intel's current chips.

As for C2D being better then K8 x2's, K8 is a 4 year old architecture... I hope Intel can bring out something better when it has had 2.5-3 years to bring it to market.

comw on guy~ lol AMD is done, remeber 3DFX? for releasin their products months later they went bunckrruptct, and thats whats happening to AMD, Intel is releasin b4 them and people already got new processors,so AMD will sell less, this is not rocket science, look at PS3, Sony for realeasin its PS3 1 year after Xbox360 has lees fan base, and systems sold, but sony is ok, it has other ways to make money, tvs, computers, etc,,,, AMD doesnt!!! AMD JUST MAKE PROCESSORS AND HAS ATI, by the way, ATI is also releasins its producst to late, and Invidia is taking over.paabss

Wow, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
Please go read and do some research so you don't need to talk out of your butt again...

what? here! i did the research!

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6130795.html

"Overall, Intel shipped 76.1 percent of all desktop, notebook and server processors that use the x86 instruction set during the quarter. AMD owned 23.3 percent of that market. AMD's overall momentum continued; a year ago, Intel had 80.7 percent of the market while AMD held 17.7 percent. Mercury Research measures the number of chips shipped into distribution channels, not the breakdown of how processors appear in end systems."

good job AMD!! 17.7 percent of the market! lol keep it up, and keep releasin Late products, is the way to go, to go DOWN!! lol AMD cant hold this, INTEL is puttin to much pression in price and quality and time, AMD has one more chance, tahts all, And Invida is winnin over ATI wich AMD owns! here more research

Ati vs Invidia MArket share! here

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/12/06/q3_06_graphics_market/

"""Investors who argue that AMD should sell off""" its ATI discrete graphics operation will take heart from market research published today which shows the chip maker's GPU division saw its market share fall in all segments during Q3.

According to Jon Peddie Research, ATI's share of the computer-oriented graphics market dropped from 28 per cent in Q2 to 23 per cent in Q2. Market leader Intel's share remained at 40 per cent, but Nvidia, VIA and SiS all recorded rises, reaching 22 per cent, ten per cent and five per cent, respectively. Nvidia's market share rose two percentage points.

No benchmarks?

Meh! I just hope they deliver.

Not seein this as being that big of a deal. All this talk doesn't mean anything, lets see some benchmarks. If it is similar to Intel's lineup and it doesn't come out till 2008 why in the world would that put AMD instantly back at the top. Also I don't see three GPUs as a big deal, the huge majority of people don't have enough money for 2 GPUs, much less 3. It says it's running on normal cooling, generally normal cooling does not mean 4 side mounted 120mm fans, unless you're rolling in the Zero. 3Ghz can easily be done with an Intel, I'm not a believer till I see benchmarks. Lord take off your AMD baseball cap and be realistic.Zaber123

Where did I say AMD is back on top?
Where did I say there were benchmarks?
Where did I say tri-CF was awesome?
Where did I show any AMD fanboy-ism?

I have no idea where any of what you said came from...
BTW- these come out BEFORE 2008.

Paabss- You said AMD is done... They aren't and you still have no idea what you are talking about, AMD doesn't just sell processors and GPUs, nor is the desktop market the only market they are in...

All the people whining about benchmarks- If they had released benchmarks you would just be whining about how they are from AMD and therefore skewed... Just like you did with the last benchmarks.

Because they are skewed, just like Intels. I get tired of walking into fake news here and at XS. It's not news until reliable overclockers get their hands on them.X360PS3AMD05

I remember a little over a year ago when people were calling the Conroe benchmarks "skewed"...

Of course because every CPU benchy has been the real deal before launch /sarcasm.X360PS3AMD05

No - but pretty much every time a company is clammed up tight and refuses to release any sort of benchmarks the processor doesn't perform all that impressively.

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Of course because every CPU benchy has been the real deal before launch /sarcasm.RayvinAzn

No - but pretty much every time a company is clammed up tight and refuses to release any sort of benchmarks the processor doesn't perform all that impressively.

Ok....so you're saying K10 is a flop? :P X360PS3AMD05

Not at all - but the fact that AMD isn't focusing on K10 isn't a good sign.

I was about to post the exact same topic as you, but it looks like you've got all bases covered (Overclocking, CBPCU and this forum).

Glad to see AMD finally opening their mouth about their processors and graphics (did you see the little R700 slide on anandtech?).

But I'd like to see some estimated prices and some solid third party benchmarks first.

AMD showed off a 3ghz Barcelona with a tri-HD2900XT setup...
I wonder what happened to all these clock speed problems?
Looks like I was right to say this is exactly like the K8 Opty launch and that they were sand bagging.

Anyways, AMD released a bunch of info about their future.
Now you people might realize why I was so vehemently defending AMD from the BS that was being posted.

LordEC911

[QUOTE="Zaber123"]Not seein this as being that big of a deal. All this talk doesn't mean anything, lets see some benchmarks. If it is similar to Intel's lineup and it doesn't come out till 2008 why in the world would that put AMD instantly back at the top. Also I don't see three GPUs as a big deal, the huge majority of people don't have enough money for 2 GPUs, much less 3. It says it's running on normal cooling, generally normal cooling does not mean 4 side mounted 120mm fans, unless you're rolling in the Zero. 3Ghz can easily be done with an Intel, I'm not a believer till I see benchmarks. Lord take off your AMD baseball cap and be realistic.LordEC911

Where did I say AMD is back on top?
Where did I say there were benchmarks?
Where did I say tri-CF was awesome?
Where did I show any AMD fanboy-ism?

I have no idea where any of what you said came from...
BTW- these come out BEFORE 2008.

Paabss- You said AMD is done... They aren't and you still have no idea what you are talking about, AMD doesn't just sell processors and GPUs, nor is the desktop market the only market they are in...

All the people whining about benchmarks- If they had released benchmarks you would just be whining about how they are from AMD and therefore skewed... Just like you did with the last benchmarks.

Oh yeah i forgot how AMD are so good on making benchmark...

Looks like im saving for a AM2+ mobo another HD 2900XT and a AMD Phenom FX... DAMMIT I only 250$ right now Idk why I got Vista 64bit :(LouieV13

Save for AM3+ board atleast

Idk why I got Vista 64bit :(LouieV13

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]Idk why I got Vista 64bit :(firefly026

[QUOTE="firefly026"][QUOTE="LouieV13"]Idk why I got Vista 64bit :(LouieV13

what? here! i did the research!

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6130795.html

"Overall, Intel shipped 76.1 percent of all desktop, notebook and server processors that use the x86 instruction set during the quarter. AMD owned 23.3 percent of that market. AMD's overall momentum continued; a year ago, Intel had 80.7 percent of the market while AMD held 17.7 percent. Mercury Research measures the number of chips shipped into distribution channels, not the breakdown of how processors appear in end systems."

good job AMD!! 17.7 percent of the market! lol keep it up, and keep releasin Late products, is the way to go, to go DOWN!! lol AMD cant hold this, INTEL is puttin to much pression in price and quality and time, AMD has one more chance, tahts all, And Invida is winnin over ATI wich AMD owns! here more research

Ati vs Invidia MArket share! here

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/12/06/q3_06_graphics_market/

"""Investors who argue that AMD should sell off""" its ATI discrete graphics operation will take heart from market research published today which shows the chip maker's GPU division saw its market share fall in all segments during Q3.

According to Jon Peddie Research, ATI's share of the computer-oriented graphics market dropped from 28 per cent in Q2 to 23 per cent in Q2. Market leader Intel's share remained at 40 per cent, but Nvidia, VIA and SiS all recorded rises, reaching 22 per cent, ten per cent and five per cent, respectively. Nvidia's market share rose two percentage points.

paabss

It's not that hard to control 70% + of the market when you are paying your customers to not use AMD. It's not that hard to control 70% + of the market when you threaten to pull your processor shipments to your supplies if they use AMD. Just google the AMD vrs Intel lawsuit for more information.

Why wouldn't AMD's ATi unit be suffering? You don't just take over a company and make a clean merger overnight, it typically takes year(s).

What really cracks me up over fanboy discussions is that one side always forgets where they 'came' from. This time last year Intel was bleeding market share; they had nothing to compete with and everyone said they were 'done'. The bottom line is this is just a cycle in the market, it happens everytime a company puts out a new architecture while the other doesn't have anything new to counter with. If AMD ever were to go out of business you Intel fans would be crying in your cereal over the cost of a CPU, but don't worry that won't ever happen as the DoJ will have something to say about it.

That they're so quiet definitely doesn't bode well for the performance of the chip. I dunno. When you're definitely not on top and you've got a killer coming up (especially in the face of C2D price drops and everybody buying them like mad), I'd imagine it's better to get the news out there early that HEY, this thing PERFORMS. Like Intel did with the Core architecture. That cynical corner of my mind guesses that they refuse to really let people go and run general benchmarks on these things the way they want to, because they're fully aware that Intel can come back immediately afterward and top it. Just a guess. If I were in that situation, I'd be keeping quiet too.Makari

You have to realize this is the way AMD operates. They did the EXACT same thing with K8, why wouldn't you do it with K10. If Penryn is so awesome why haven't we seen anybody get their hands on it... oh wait because of the NDA. Intel was so outspoken about Core because they are outspoken about every single one of their products, that is what billion dollar companies can do with their cash.

You have to understand both sides operate like this. You DON'T want the other side to get all the info/numbers on your product or else they might be able to beat you to market with a better/competitive product.

This reinforces my view on life...

The harder things get, the harder you think.

Eh i still intel on top. They have always seem to be on top in the end every time. There on top 60% of the time everytime.Killfox

.......This is why I praise education cuts.....anyways, it's nice to see AMD coming out and saying "Look, we have this. Want it?"

It gives us a chance to see what they are conjuring up and let us drool over the next thing. Yes, there are no benchmarks but most companies don't release benchmarks. They simply hype the bloody product and then let the reviewers have their field day.

One thing that gets me though is why everyone keeps saying "Well Intel is releasing theirs." Or "AMD is still doomed. They only control 17% of the market share" Why do people always look towards the other company and say "Good thing Intel is around, need to kill the AMD hippies" It's good to have AMD around for competition. We want the more competition to get the better products faster. Anyone remember the old graphic card companies war in the 90's? That was a fun time. So many companies tossing their hat in the race and in the end all that came out were ATI and nVidia but didn't we see some great cards back then? That's what needs to happen again.

AMD showed off a 3ghz Barcelona with a tri-HD2900XT setup...
I wonder what happened to all these clock speed problems?
Looks like I was right to say this is exactly like the K8 Opty launch and that they were sand bagging.

Anyways, AMD released a bunch of info about their future.
Now you people might realize why I was so vehemently defending AMD from the BS that was being posted.

LordEC911

That is just franky the stupidest thing I have ever seen. There no reason whatso ever to have sli 8800s let alone feckign three cards. I hate technogry for the hell of it. Not to mention the size of the case, the amoutn of cooling and the amount of powered youd need for a set up like that. Not to m,ention the stand alone Physix card died and was completey unultlized and now they expect people to buy another gpu just for that. lol insane.