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#1 jazztrumpet5
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I realize I'm a little late to the ball here, but didn't find the answer to my question with a forum search, so here we go...

As I've been preparing to upgrade mobo/CPU/RAM, the only things i've been looking at have been Core 2 Duos - I realize they are great processors, but I'd at least like to get some info regarding the AMD dual-core CPUs.

Namely - what would a similar AMD be with regards to, say, a 6400 C2D? Is there anything?

Do the AMD processors run on the old pin mobos? (I'm running a 3500+ at the moment, on an Asus SLI board). I wouldnt' think they would, but that might play into me choosing an AMD CPU instead of an intel.

Anyway, just curious. Thanks.
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#2 Generalkill8888
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I realize I'm a little late to the ball here, but didn't find the answer to my question with a forum search, so here we go...

As I've been preparing to upgrade mobo/CPU/RAM, the only things i've been looking at have been Core 2 Duos - I realize they are great processors, but I'd at least like to get some info regarding the AMD dual-core CPUs.

Namely - what would a similar AMD be with regards to, say, a 6400 C2D? Is there anything?

Do the AMD processors run on the old pin mobos? (I'm running a 3500+ at the moment, on an Asus SLI board). I wouldnt' think they would, but that might play into me choosing an AMD CPU instead of an intel.

Anyway, just curious. Thanks.
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#3 jazztrumpet5
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Another lesson from the General. thanks, man!

I need to bookmark these sites.
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#4 macpop
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intel is better atm, not for long tho :)
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#5 Generalkill8888
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Another lesson from the General. thanks, man!

I need to bookmark these sites.
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No problem man :D
intel is better atm, not for long tho :)macpop
I know Mac is happy about Barcelona :)
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Do the AMD dual-cores work with older mobos? I've got an Asus A8n-SLI, 939pin connector-style board. 
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Do the AMD dual-cores work with older mobos? I've got an Asus A8n-SLI, 939pin connector-style board. jazztrumpet5
yeah there are AMD X2's for 939,but they're discontinued since AMD killed 939,so better get one while you can.
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i think my 4400+ X2 was the last 939 worth getting. but dont base everything on that quake 4 chart. different games run better with different equipment. its most likely that a game will run best with what it was originally programmed with for obvious reasons. i prefer amd, very broad ocing with mine. intel usually locks theirs, but thats just me.

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#9 jazztrumpet5
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Well, if it's a dead technology, it's probably not worth getting in to. What do the new AMD CPUs run on?

Most likely, if I'm upgrading a mobo and processor, I'll be going intel. I do like to be informed about the other guys, though. :)
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Well, if it's a dead technology, it's probably not worth getting in to. What do the new AMD CPUs run on?

Most likely, if I'm upgrading a mobo and processor, I'll be going intel. I do like to be informed about the other guys, though. :)
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AM2 and AM2+. If you have an AM2 motherboard some of the features of Barcelona are cut out (IIRC), which sucks. This is why I recommend Intel P965 platforms to new builders because they have full compatibility with Kentsfield and maybe even Penryn.
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[QUOTE="jazztrumpet5"]Well, if it's a dead technology, it's probably not worth getting in to. What do the new AMD CPUs run on?

Most likely, if I'm upgrading a mobo and processor, I'll be going intel. I do like to be informed about the other guys, though. :)
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AM2 and AM2+. If you have an AM2 motherboard some of the features of Barcelona are cut out (IIRC), which sucks. This is why I recommend Intel P965 platforms to new builders because they have full compatibility with Kentsfield and maybe even Penryn.

Weskie buddy, favor to ask. There is a guy from Aussieland wondering some prices on what the 8600 series might cost. Is aid you might have a good idea. Hes asking in the GPU stickey.
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 - [QUOTE="macpop"]intel is better atm, not for long tho :)Generalkill8888

I know Mac is happy about Barcelona :)


Is This Barcalona thing, Amd's New Quad Core
I Dont Mean Quad FX.. I mean The Amd Quad Core with 4 cores on the same physicall chip?

i saw an interview with an amd guy on youtube and it was about amd quad core being upto 40% faster than the Intel Equivalent..
is that true? will Amd Be on Top Again?

[QUOTE="jazztrumpet5"]Well, if it's a dead technology, it's probably not worth getting in to. What do the new AMD CPUs run on?

Most likely, if I'm upgrading a mobo and processor, I'll be going intel. I do like to be informed about the other guys, though. :)
Wesker776
AM2 and AM2+. If you have an AM2 motherboard some of the features of Barcelona are cut out (IIRC), which sucks. This is why I recommend Intel P965 platforms to new builders because they have full compatibility with Kentsfield and maybe even Penryn.



What On Earth is Am2+ ??
i have an Am2 Socket mobo.. Asus M2N-32 SLi Deluxe Wifi-Ap
is this Am2+ or just Am2?

and will i Be Able To Put An Amd Quad Core Barcalona Whatever cpu in my motherboard in the future


Thanks for the help guys much apreciated.

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#13 macpop
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[QUOTE="Generalkill8888"] - [QUOTE="macpop"]intel is better atm, not for long tho :)Ephexis

I know Mac is happy about Barcelona :)


Is This Barcalona thing, Amd's New Quad Core
I Dont Mean Quad FX.. I mean The Amd Quad Core with 4 cores on the same physicall chip?

i saw an interview with an amd guy on youtube and it was about amd quad core being upto 40% faster than the Intel Equivalent..
is that true? will Amd Be on Top Again?

[QUOTE="jazztrumpet5"]Well, if it's a dead technology, it's probably not worth getting in to. What do the new AMD CPUs run on?

Most likely, if I'm upgrading a mobo and processor, I'll be going intel. I do like to be informed about the other guys, though. :)
Wesker776
AM2 and AM2+. If you have an AM2 motherboard some of the features of Barcelona are cut out (IIRC), which sucks. This is why I recommend Intel P965 platforms to new builders because they have full compatibility with Kentsfield and maybe even Penryn.



What On Earth is Am2+ ??
i have an Am2 Socket mobo.. Asus M2N-32 SLi Deluxe Wifi-Ap
is this Am2+ or just Am2?

and will i Be Able To Put An Amd Quad Core Barcalona Whatever cpu in my motherboard in the future


Thanks for the help guys much apreciated.

yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now, and intels little 45nm plans are nothing special since amd confirmed 45nm comin as well and am2+ is a optimized socket for quads, im thinking u can but theres a catch i guess,and im thinking like teh 4x4 platform their using the new socket, and no more pins wich is wat i think am2+ is and theres more more than that  i hope
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yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.macpop
Links???
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[QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.AARONRULZ1
Links???

well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.html http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/ http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.html http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236 http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_ http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/ and when amd says its faster, trust me it is
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#16 Generalkill8888
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.macpop
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well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.html http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/ http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.html http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236 http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_ http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/ and when amd says its faster, trust me it is

' It is supposed to be 40% faster than Clovertown.
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.macpop
Links???

well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.htmlhttp://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.htmlhttp://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_  http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/ and when amd says its faster, trust me it is

Unless there's benchies,i don't believe it.

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#18 Ephexis
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.macpop
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well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.htmlhttp://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/
http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.html
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236
http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/
and when amd says its faster, trust me it is



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#19 Generalkill8888
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[QUOTE="macpop"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.AARONRULZ1
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well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.html http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/ http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.html http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236 http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_ http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/ and when amd says its faster, trust me it is

Unless there's benchies,i don't believe it.



This is a good source too

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#20 macpop
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[QUOTE="macpop"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.Generalkill8888
Links???

well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.html http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/ http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.html http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236 http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_ http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/ and when amd says its faster, trust me it is

' It is supposed to be 40% faster than Clovertown.

yup, then pynerin or w.e its called is comin, but amd already released that their 45nm is comin as well, they already made tests and are gonna work on the architecture from wat i heard
[QUOTE="macpop"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.AARONRULZ1
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well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.html http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/ http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.html http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236 http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_ http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/ and when amd says its faster, trust me it is

Unless there's benchies,i don't believe it.

:lol: didint u see the big announcement amd said?:lol: they even said its supposed to compete with intels 45nm proccessor and that it beats anything out now, so get ur head out ur butt and see that amd is gonna be champ later on this year and im a be gloating when it happends :lol: its gonna be the same story as the pentium D vs x2 XD
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[QUOTE="Generalkill8888"][QUOTE="macpop"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.macpop
Links???

well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.html http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/ http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.html http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236 http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_ http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/ and when amd says its faster, trust me it is

' It is supposed to be 40% faster than Clovertown.

yup, then pynerin or w.e its called is comin, but amd already released that their 45nm is comin as well, they already made tests and are gonna work on the architecture from wat i heard
[QUOTE="macpop"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.AARONRULZ1
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well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.html http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/ http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.html http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236 http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_ http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/ and when amd says its faster, trust me it is

Unless there's benchies,i don't believe it.

:lol: didint u see the big announcement amd said?:lol: they even said its supposed to compete with intels 45nm proccessor and that it beats anything out now, so get ur head out ur butt and see that amd is gonna be champ later on this year and im a be gloating when it happends :lol: its gonna be the same story as the pentium D vs x2 XD

Well i still would like to see benchies before i'm 100% convinced. Barcelona is compatible with Socket AM2 right???
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#22 macpop
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[QUOTE="macpop"][QUOTE="Generalkill8888"][QUOTE="macpop"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.AARONRULZ1
Links???

well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.html http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/ http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.html http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236 http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_ http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/ and when amd says its faster, trust me it is

' It is supposed to be 40% faster than Clovertown.

yup, then pynerin or w.e its called is comin, but amd already released that their 45nm is comin as well, they already made tests and are gonna work on the architecture from wat i heard
[QUOTE="macpop"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]yes barcelona is 40% faster then anything out now.AARONRULZ1
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well theres no benchmarks out yet, but amd said it themselves http://www.behardware.com/news/8566/amd-40-faster-than-intel.html http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/64801/ http://www.dvhardware.net/article16622.html http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=236 http://www.rojo.com/story/_HucioRAw77-JGL_ http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37212 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/26/amd_opteron_vs_xeon_claim/ and when amd says its faster, trust me it is

Unless there's benchies,i don't believe it.

:lol: didint u see the big announcement amd said?:lol: they even said its supposed to compete with intels 45nm proccessor and that it beats anything out now, so get ur head out ur butt and see that amd is gonna be champ later on this year and im a be gloating when it happends :lol: its gonna be the same story as the pentium D vs x2 XD

Well i still would like to see benchies before i'm 100% convinced. Barcelona is compatible with Socket AM2 right???

it is, but am2+ is comin but to me its the same but uses the no pins like the 4x4 sockets and proably more optimized, but amd said am2 is good for barcelona, keep in mind barcelona is a opty chip so expect fx and x2 version to be announced after barcelona
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Don't get me wrong, i'm an AMD guy.  They clearly stated in the interview that the chip would be faster...running server applications.  That does not mean that it will be faster than the intel doing general computations.
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go for i7 and you will be a happy camper

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intel is better atm, not for long tho :)macpop
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