Anything illegal about No DVD cracks?

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#1 zero9167
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my dvd drive is dying so i cant play bf2, so would it be illegal to use a NO DVD crack? Also my dvd drive will only read some games, so far i found Diablo 2 and BF2 wont work... i think it needs a good cleaning

 

DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT ASKING FOR A LINK OR ANYTHING JUST ANSWER MY FIRST QUESTION :)

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#2 Bass7
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Just buy a new dvd drive.  They aren't expensive, check on newegg.com, they have really good prices, I got my 7600GT for only 140$ (90 after rebate :D). 

P.S. you can pretty much ask anyone here who has built a comp, they'll say newegg is really good, very trustable. 

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#3 Einhanderkiller
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It's legal if you own the original copies of the game.

By the way, I don't think discussion of no-cd cracks are allowed here on Gamespot. 

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Just a side point..... Ea know if you use a BF2 NoCD crack and they block your game... Dont try it. 

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#5 zero9167
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I think i've seen threads asking similar questions before that weren't locked. But if im wrong, sorry :D I tried to make it clear i wasn't asking for links. And bass7 yea i know about newegg, but i just spent almost $300 on a new GPU and PSu so i dont have the cash for a DVD DRive even if it is only like $20 :P
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screw ea then
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#7 BewilderedRonin
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Legally, a No-DVD/CD patch is typically regarded as legal, though sometimes it may not be. It really all depends on the EULA. For example, some EULAs state the owner of a game may add additional content to a game, but are forbidden to reverse engineer, or modify a games executable (the EXE file).

 

Regarding using a No DVD/CD patch for BF2, if it modifies the exe, or if you are replacing the old exe with a new one, BF2 will NOT work on many servers. It wil think that you are trying to cheat and punkbuster will kick you. Instead, use a disc image (specifically, a mini disc image), mount in Daemon Tools and then run. You may need to use an anti-blacklisting tool such as Y.A.S.U.

 

Personally, I use mini disc images for nearly all of my games. It doesn't corrupt data or alter your exe (thus messing up any potential updates) and it allows me to keep my games' discs in good working condition. Without such techniques, I wouldn't be able to enjoy KotOR anymore, as my "play" disc developed a rather nasty crack that renders it unreadable. :/

 

P.S. typically, the term "No DVD crack" refers to those with illegal and/or nefarious purposes. The correct term is a No DVD patch. (but don't use those. just use a mini disc image, virtual drive tool, and an anti-blacklisting tool)

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#8 Bass7
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I think i've seen threads asking similar questions before that weren't locked. But if im wrong, sorry :D I tried to make it clear i wasn't asking for links. And bass7 yea i know about newegg, but i just spent almost $300 on a new GPU and PSu so i dont have the cash for a DVD DRive even if it is only like $20 :Pzero9167

lol I'd lend you the money....only if I knew you, and you lived in WA o.0. 

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How would I make a Mini Image?
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At the worst its a grey area.  If the FBI ever raids you, you can throw the box for whatever game you cracked at them and I think the judge will let you go.  But I can guarentee you that it wont come to that.

In addition, there are tons of sites that have cracks on them and if it were an issue I think they would be taken down.  Not all of them, but definately most of them.

As for BF2, you might come across problems with punkbuster since I think you need to the CD to verify.  Not sure though, only mention it because I have heard of similiar problems with BF2142.

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How would I make a Mini Image?navyseal2101
No offense, but I won't discuss that. I recommend using google. There are plenty of tutorials out there.

As for BF2, you might come across problems with punkbuster since I think you need to the CD to verify. Not sure though, only mention it because I have heard of similiar problems with BF2142.

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Yeah, if you have a modified EXE then punkbuster will kick you.

 

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#12 zero9167
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Legally, a No-DVD/CD patch is typically regarded as legal, though sometimes it may not be. It really all depends on the EULA. For example, some EULAs state the owner of a game may add additional content to a game, but are forbidden to reverse engineer, or modify a games executable (the EXE file).

 

Regarding using a No DVD/CD patch for BF2, if it modifies the exe, or if you are replacing the old exe with a new one, BF2 will NOT work on many servers. It wil think that you are trying to cheat and punkbuster will kick you. Instead, use a disc image (specifically, a mini disc image), mount in Daemon Tools and then run. You may need to use an anti-blacklisting tool such as Y.A.S.U.

 

Personally, I use mini disc images for nearly all of my games. It doesn't corrupt data or alter your exe (thus messing up any potential updates) and it allows me to keep my games' discs in good working condition. Without such techniques, I wouldn't be able to enjoy KotOR anymore, as my "play" disc developed a rather nasty crack that renders it unreadable. :/

 

P.S. typically, the term "No DVD crack" refers to those with illegal and/or nefarious purposes. The correct term is a No DVD patch. (but don't use those. just use a mini disc image, virtual drive tool, and an anti-blacklisting tool)

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but in order for that to work my dvd drive would have to be able to read the disc right? :(

[QUOTE="zero9167"]I think i've seen threads asking similar questions before that weren't locked. But if im wrong, sorry :D I tried to make it clear i wasn't asking for links. And bass7 yea i know about newegg, but i just spent almost $300 on a new GPU and PSu so i dont have the cash for a DVD DRive even if it is only like $20 :PBass7

lol I'd lend you the money....only if I knew you, and you lived in WA o.0.

lol um awesome :D only if... :P
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#13 Nayab
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Just use an image and mount it.

 

Bf2 will work on all servers, ranked and unranked. 

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#14 BewilderedRonin
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but in order for that to work my dvd drive would have to be able to read the disc right? :(

zero9167

Nope. You mount the disc image (usally an ISO image or an MDF/MDS image(similar to BIN/CUE)) using a virtual drive emulator, like Daemon Tools. As far as your computer knows, you have an actual disc in an actual drive. 

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Legally, a No-DVD/CD patch is typically regarded as legal, though sometimes it may not be. It really all depends on the EULA. For example, some EULAs state the owner of a game may add additional content to a game, but are forbidden to reverse engineer, or modify a games executable (the EXE file).

 

Regarding using a No DVD/CD patch for BF2, if it modifies the exe, or if you are replacing the old exe with a new one, BF2 will NOT work on many servers. It wil think that you are trying to cheat and punkbuster will kick you. Instead, use a disc image (specifically, a mini disc image), mount in Daemon Tools and then run. You may need to use an anti-blacklisting tool such as Y.A.S.U.

 

Personally, I use mini disc images for nearly all of my games. It doesn't corrupt data or alter your exe (thus messing up any potential updates) and it allows me to keep my games' discs in good working condition. Without such techniques, I wouldn't be able to enjoy KotOR anymore, as my "play" disc developed a rather nasty crack that renders it unreadable. :/

 

P.S. typically, the term "No DVD crack" refers to those with illegal and/or nefarious purposes. The correct term is a No DVD patch. (but don't use those. just use a mini disc image, virtual drive tool, and an anti-blacklisting tool)

BewilderedRonin

Like I've said before, I believe the official word is it is not illegal, but the fact still is that some consider it to be (which is why I don't believe it's allowed here, or at least wasn't, but here's why:

The stupid legal thingies and eula stuff states something to the effect of 'You may not circumvent copywrite protection.' Not even if you legally bought the game, which is kinda retarded, since you bought it, so it doesn't matter if you are the only one using it with it's circumvented copy protection. Many games use requiring a CD as one of many types of 'copy protection', so a crack, or even image (although images are even grayer areas) is circumventing copy protection.. Obviously requiring cds nowadays isn't exactly to save your hard drive space and run things from the CD, so..

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#16 l-_-l
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Just buy a new dvd drive. They aren't expensive, check on newegg.com, they have really good prices, I got my 7600GT for only 140$ (90 after rebate :D).

P.S. you can pretty much ask anyone here who has built a comp, they'll say newegg is really good, very trustable.

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What the man says is true. Newegg is the best. And you can get a new drive for less that $30 or less easy. Here is the DVD-Drive I got for my PC. Or if you want a burner, here is the one I got for my PC.
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#17 SaDiZTiKStyLeZ
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I rarely play games that require a disc to play. Is there anyway i can no-cd a game n xfire will still log the hours?
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#18 Krall
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Sorry to close this but I know what it's going to turn into.

For the purpose of this website it's a discussion that is not allowed.

As for the law it is illegal as the EULA of any game you purchase states that you cannot decompile or reverse engineer the software and no-cd/no-dvd cracks do just that in-order to remove the copy protection of having the disc in the drive while playing the game.