Are dual cores obsolete?

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#1 Killer2401
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If you are trying to run current PC games these day, how feasible are dual cores? All I ever hear about is quad-cores now days, so it would help me decide on a new desktop if I could narrow down the possibilities. Otherwise, what is the minimum for good dual-cores?

I'm not great with PC hardware, so please excuse my ignorance if this is a stupid question.

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#2 Tezcatlipoca666
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Dual-cores still work for pretty much all games out now. That being said you shouldn't consider them unless your budget is extremely restrictive.

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#3 gmaster456
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For gaming, quad cores are where its at these days. But for casual, everyday use, dual cores are plenty.
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#4 Stinger78
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I'll describe it this way - a dual-core (2.2Ghz or so) will do a great job with youtube videos/hulu/netflix, etc for playing in full-screen mode, along with a great job with anything you play on facebook and perhaps most PC games from before CoD Black Ops, GTA IV, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. Those games may have all been poorly optimzed but I know they ran a whole lot better for me once I went from a dual to a quad-core. This was even with a 1GB GTS 250 video card which may be considered mid-range. Anymore you will want a quad-core CPU (with at least 2.2GHz speed), along with something like a GTX 560 to really get smooth framerates and high details as gaming isn't always about your CPU but it does need to be fast enough to keep up with the video card.
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#5 gameguy6700
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Quad cores are now necessary for high end gaming. Games have been fully supporting them for about a year or two now, and we're starting to see games that will run like crap if you don't have a quad core CPU (ex: BF3).
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#6 kaitanuvax
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Dual cores are starting to lose their grip in games now

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#7 ycdeo
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Dual core are just cheaper products thesedays. Still useful, depending on the person jobscope.
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#8 PBSnipes
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Sorta-kinda. The SNB i3's hold their own against the Phenom II X4 line (in fact the i3-2100 will outperform Phenom II X4 in the vast majority of games) so you can't really call dual cores obsolete, but on the other hand that speaks as much to AMD's troubles with Bulldozer as it does the long-term feasibility of dual core CPUs.

So depending on your non-gaming workload a dual-core might make sense in a budget rig, but the quad-core SNB i5 line is the obvious price/performance sweet spot for mid- and high-end consumer rigs.

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#9 lordlunch2
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I have a dual core and I can safely say they are essentially obsolete. Most games can be modified to run with them like black ops which took some work to get it going smoothly as it's clearly meant for quad. I would say most new games will require it for sure especially as their not nearly as optimized as they used to be.
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#10 ionusX
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Sorta-kinda. The SNB i3's hold their own against the Phenom II X4 line (in fact the i3-2100 will outperform Phenom II X4 in the vast majority of games) so you can't really call dual cores obsolete, but on the other hand that speaks as much to AMD's troubles with Bulldozer as it does the long-term feasibility of dual core CPUs.

So depending on your non-gaming workload a dual-core might make sense in a budget rig, but the quad-core SNB i5 line is the obvious price/performance sweet spot for mid- and high-end consumer rigs.

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umm no.. and in games that ya know use quad core's the SB i3 gets walked all over by a phII x4 or the fx-4100or a llano. thats simply bad reviewing. as for that ONE bulldozer 8150 bench.. dont act like its the end of the world we can cough it up to a number of things including support for the 8150 in the first place.

there isnt an excuse not to get a quad core. an athlon II x4 631 (phenom II x4 945) can be had for as cheap as $80 atm. and games basically need a 4 core. its impossible to avoid.

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#11 SerOlmy
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Dual-cores are falling behind fast. One of the main reasons I am building my new rig. My dual-core Phenom can't cut it in games anymore, especially in stuff that is CPU heavy like RIFT and a few others, it completely bottlenecks my GPU. I'll probably be carrying over my 260GTX into the new rig since it still does reasonably well until the Black Friday sales on NewEgg when I buy my Twin Frozr 570GTX.
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#12 PBSnipes
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umm no.. and in games that ya know use quad core's the SB i3 gets walked all over by a phII x4 or the fx-4100or a llano. thats simply bad reviewing. as for that ONE bulldozer 8150 bench.. dont act like its the end of the world we can cough it up to a number of things including support for the 8150 in the first place.

there isnt an excuse not to get a quad core. an athlon II x4 631 (phenom II x4 945) can be had for as cheap as $80 atm. and games basically need a 4 core. its impossible to avoid.

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And which games are those taking significant advantage of four cores? Certainly not any of these, or these ones, either. Is going Phenom II X4 a little more future-proof for gaming? Potentially, but buying hardware for its potential future uses tends to be a bad ****ing idea, and for the majority of non-gaming consumer workloads two speedy cores are going to be better than four slower cores.

And I have no idea what you mean by "one bulldozer 8150 bench" -- every bench I've seen shows Bulldozer is a total non-starter as a consumer part. It struggles to compete with Phenom II in lightly threaded (read: the vast majority of consumer) workloads, and the FX-8xxx series is priced comparitively to Intel's quad-core offerings. Maybe devs will start to take advantage of 8 threads, and maybe the Win 8 optimization might pan out (and maybe Win 8 will launch sometime next year), and maybe AMD/Global Foundaries will work out the power consumption and clockspeed issues, but that's three (four) too many "maybes" when i5-2500k already outperforms the 8150 in all but the most heavily-threaded workloads and retails at (or close to, anyway; I think Amazon has the 8120 for $200 right now) 8120 prices.

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#13 gamerns
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If you're on a budget and want a decent gaming PC then a dual core i3 2100 makes a lot of sense, but you need to have an upgrade path (meaning a good P67 or Z68 motherboard). If money's not a problem then quad is the way to go.

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#14 mitu123
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They will be soon, hell, most are now...

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#15 SPYDER0416
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A good dual core can still run any modern game well. I can do BF3 just fine on mine.

Of course, Quad Cores are recommended for a reason, and it won't be long until my CPU falls before the minimum requirement the way tech moves these days. At least my GPU should be great for the next few years.

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#17 WyteCollaCrim
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Im runing on a dual core and i dont plan on upgrading.

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#18 saruman354
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For gaming? Pretty much unless you're working with a tight budget. For everyday computing? Shoooooot, no.

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#19 BlackDevil99
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dual-cores are still awesome, I've maxed every game I've tried on my i5 dual core (albiet, overclocked)
few games take advantage of quad-core, but just about allnew releases do dual.

I'm still of the opinion that a high-speed dual beats a low-speed quad (which is generally always the trade-off)

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#20 saruman354
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I should clarify. It's useless to buy a dual core instead of a quad core unless you're working with a tight budget. If you still have a ballin' dual core, no need to upgrade if it's not affecting performance.

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#21 kaitanuvax
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sandy bridge dual cores dont count as dual cores, they're on steroids

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#22 SPYDER0416
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dual-cores are still awesome, I've maxed every game I've tried on my i5 dual core (albiet, overclocked)
few games take advantage of quad-core, but just about allnew releases do dual.

I'm still of the opinion that a high-speed dual beats a low-speed quad (which is generally always the trade-off)

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Same here. Just a few years ago I remember Dual Cores were the new hotness needed for new hot gaming, so I can still play any game I own or want for the next few years with it and my GPU. Not that I don't plan on upgrading eventually.