Are OLED screens really the future with so many problems?

It's pretty shocking that everyone says OLED screens have infinite contrast when they really dont. Do this test and it will be obvious,

Use a COMPLETELY dark picture on full brightness in a completely dark room. I did it on a galaxy S3 and it almost reminded me of dark grey like blacks it absolutely does not blend in with the darkness of the bezel. Ofcourse it is still multitudes better than the blacks of an LCD screen as when I did this on an LCD it was almost light gray blacks ewwwww. Use the app dead pixel test to have that scenario.

Now thats not really a problem but just very surprising there are other big "problems".

There are ink blotches all over the screens when viewing black in the above scenario.

There is ghosting with list scrolling, it's like the screen flickers I thought OLEDs were supposed to have CRT like response time?

The colors remain atrocious. The likes of red and yellow are just painful to look at. In galaxy S3 there is this setting called "natural" but it makes everything so washed out it's useless.

The brightness cannot match LCD screens it's visibly dimmer. I'll let this one go though since eye searing brightness is only required on tablets and smartphones for better outdoor visibility.

There is grainy texture on grey colors.

There is burn in problem.

So OLED is the future?

OLED will definitely replace LED backlit LCDs, just like the LED backlit LCDs replaced CCFL LCDs. How many non LED LCDs are still on the market? They only remain in the budget class anyways.

I think plasma will still be viable option next to OLED, if not superior (plasma keeps getting better) but I don't know if it can handle the mass marketing and overhype of OLED. LED is looked upon as a new tech and outsells plasma like 3 or 4 to 1.

How can you complain about the S3's black level? its simply mind blowing. it has to be at least 20. (I'm not joking, it could very well be 30-40, NOT EXAGGERATING) times deeper than the Iphone 4S' S-LCD screen. At best I think the iPhone has a 0.08cd/m² black level if not worse.. the Galaxy S3 probably has 0.004cd/m² or better!

Either way, I still think the Kuros measured 0.003cd/m² is a little blacker than any S-AMOLED I've seen.

Btw, what is the difference between Super Active Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diodes and Organic Light Emitting Diodes?

One more thing... Ami I the only one who thinks, after the OLED drops in 2013, Panasonic will unleash the PLASMA BOMB known as "Project Kuro" like.. FVCK you suckas, our TV still shlts on yours!

The Project Kuro is said to have completely perfect and absolute blacks, in any case it was "significantly" deeper blacks than the regular Kuro, while still being 9mm thin or whatever... That would kill OLEDs.

Wait, what? Panasonic is releasing a new tech next year? I only read it was just more incremental stuff. If that's true I need to hold off on my purchase of a GT50 next month...

I am not "complaining" about the blacks but just something interesting that even all professional reviews call it "infinite" contrast. It does seem like that when you have something colorful on the screen along with black cuz the eye cant percieve very deep black from zero black unless there is only black on the screen.

There are many other problems with OLED screens and that I have pointed out.

Now the problem with panasonic is simply marketing. Plasma doesnt have very positive goodwill due to all the problems that old plasmas had or I dont know for what reason but every noob thinks plasma is outdated tech. Panasonic prolly need to give their new TVs some cool new name just like how the other manufacturers are cashing in on the "LED" coolness even though edge lit LED is by no means superior to CCFL just more power efficient.

I am not "complaining" about the blacks but just something interesting that even all professional reviews call it "infinite" contrast. It does seem like that when you have something colorful on the screen along with black cuz the eye cant percieve very deep black from zero black unless there is only black on the screen.

There are many other problems with OLED screens and that I have pointed out.

Now the problem with panasonic is simply marketing. Plasma doesnt have very positive goodwill due to all the problems that old plasmas had or I dont know for what reason but every noob thinks plasma is outdated tech. Panasonic prolly need to give their new TVs some cool new name just like how the other manufacturers are cashing in on the "LED" coolness even though edge lit LED is by no means superior to CCFL just more power efficient.

Gambler_3

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I am not "complaining" about the blacks but just something interesting that even all professional reviews call it "infinite" contrast. It does seem like that when you have something colorful on the screen along with black cuz the eye cant percieve very deep black from zero black unless there is only black on the screen.

There are many other problems with OLED screens and that I have pointed out.

Now the problem with panasonic is simply marketing. Plasma doesnt have very positive goodwill due to all the problems that old plasmas had or I dont know for what reason but every noob thinks plasma is outdated tech. Panasonic prolly need to give their new TVs some cool new name just like how the other manufacturers are cashing in on the "LED" coolness even though edge lit LED is by no means superior to CCFL just more power efficient.

gagit811

Wait, what? Panasonic is releasing a new tech next year? I only read it was just more incremental stuff. If that's true I need to hold off on my purchase of a GT50 next month...

awptical

Pioneer had what they called ECC, which was the next step after current Kuro technology. This allowed them to achieve a zero black level, although Panasonic did acquire the patents, I highly doubt they've done anything with the tech. Not to mention they're already going to be working with Sony for mass production of OLED displays in 2013. If Pioneer didn't drop the ball back in 2009 we may have been looking at a very different market today.

Pioneer had what they called ECC, which was the next step after current Kuro technology. This allowed them to achieve a zero black level, although Panasonic did acquire the patents, I highly doubt they've done anything with the tech. Not to mention they're already going to be working with Sony for mass production of OLED displays in 2013. If Pioneer didn't drop the ball back in 2009 we may have been looking at a very different market today.

NVIDIATI

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Pioneer had what they called ECC, which was the next step after current Kuro technology. This allowed them to achieve a zero black level, although Panasonic did acquire the patents, I highly doubt they've done anything with the tech. Not to mention they're already going to be working with Sony for mass production of OLED displays in 2013. If Pioneer didn't drop the ball back in 2009 we may have been looking at a very different market today.

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Pioneer had what they called ECC, which was the next step after current Kuro technology. This allowed them to achieve a zero black level, although Panasonic did acquire the patents, I highly doubt they've done anything with the tech. Not to mention they're already going to be working with Sony for mass production of OLED displays in 2013. If Pioneer didn't drop the ball back in 2009 we may have been looking at a very different market today.

Legendarycr8ter

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Pioneer had what they called ECC, which was the next step after current Kuro technology. This allowed them to achieve a zero black level, although Panasonic did acquire the patents, I highly doubt they've done anything with the tech. Not to mention they're already going to be working with Sony for mass production of OLED displays in 2013. If Pioneer didn't drop the ball back in 2009 we may have been looking at a very different market today.

Legendarycr8ter

Doesn't need a backlight, each pixel creates its own light so it will have very deep blacks and a true infinity contrast ratio. It won't have backlight bleeding the way LCD can have, it will have LEDs bright picture and deeper blacks then plasma, even the darkest plasma have a glow in a dark room for blacks. It's like the holy grail for tv tech if they can just get cost down, which will happen is happening right now. gagit811

[QUOTE="gagit811"]Doesn't need a backlight, each pixel creates its own light so it will have very deep blacks and a true infinity contrast ratio. It won't have backlight bleeding the way LCD can have, it will have LEDs bright picture and deeper blacks then plasma, even the darkest plasma have a glow in a dark room for blacks. It's like the holy grail for tv tech if they can just get cost down, which will happen is happening right now. Gambler_3

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[QUOTE="gagit811"]Doesn't need a backlight, each pixel creates its own light so it will have very deep blacks and a true infinity contrast ratio. It won't have backlight bleeding the way LCD can have, it will have LEDs bright picture and deeper blacks then plasma, even the darkest plasma have a glow in a dark room for blacks. It's like the holy grail for tv tech if they can just get cost down, which will happen is happening right now. gagit811

And OLED screens do have ghosting...

LOL LOL i cant believe ur using a phone screen as a kind of yardstick on how good or bad OLED tv's will be, oh dear:lol:

LOL LOL i cant believe ur using a phone screen as a kind of yardstick on how good or bad OLED tv's will be, oh dear:lol:

l34052

With OLED screens unlike with LCD screens, you have to watch for burn in.

With Plasma, burn in is only temporary, and you may for a while see a logo burnt into the screen (especially when playing games) that fades after a while.

It then rarely does it at all after its been used for a while.

OLED's though actually do burn in. Each colour pixel has a lifespan.

You could say LCD screens also have a lifespan, because the backlights (less chance with LED LCD with the life being longer) but these will eventually go. Especially the older cathode backlights used in older sets.

My Samsung Galaxy S AMOLED screen for example has ghosting now at the top where the time and other things are displayed after 2 years of constant use. Go into the screen settings test:

*#0*#

and select red/green/blue in turn to test each LED section.

This would eventually happen with OLED screens too, so over time the colours will get less saturated as the individual pixels start to lose life.

I believe blue fades out the fastest? Then green and lastly red.

Not saying it would matter as it would still mostly last longer than 5 years, and they would have had time to protect screens from this as they start shipping, but its still a problem that occurs naturally, backlight or no backlight.