Arena Shooters - Where they go? :(

Can it has be 1999 again? Whatever happened to the real twitch shooters? Quake 4 fizzled and Epic dropped the ball with UT3. Is the best multiplayer genre gone for good? Is it seriously going to be remembered by a bunch of flacid sequels? Props to CSS and BF2 for staying great over the years, but i need twitch! :(

serious sam HD: the second encounter has a brand new version of seriously warped death match in it.. great fun indeed..

Too many nubs can't handle it.JigglyWiggly_

Too many nubs can't handle it.JigglyWiggly_

Arena Twitch shooters needa resurgence, but the problem is that too many mainstream gamers are too hooked on super slow games like Halo, they couln't handle the speed of quake, and people tend to not like getting killed over and over. appealing to the casual market is what has really hurt gaming this gen.AiurProtoss

Arena Twitch shooters needa resurgence, but the problem is that too many mainstream gamers are too hooked on super slow games like Halo, they couln't handle the speed of quake, and people tend to not like getting killed over and over. appealing to the casual market is what has really hurt gaming this gen.AiurProtoss

I agree. I think the opposite is true also, I could never get into halo, COD and the like. Always felt slow and venerable, or maybe i just have a serious case of ADHD. But yeah.. games feel clumsy and talent-less now.

[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]Arena Twitch shooters needa resurgence, but the problem is that too many mainstream gamers are too hooked on super slow games like Halo, they couln't handle the speed of quake, and people tend to not like getting killed over and over. appealing to the casual market is what has really hurt gaming this gen.Prexxus

No they don't ive been following mlg since 2006 and the most they make is 100,000 for first place at Halo nationals, and 20,000 for 1st place at any normal event, and that is a team total prize money, so 100,000 minus tax of course, then they each get their share of the cash. And only the top 3 teams really get worthwhile money to sit a and practice for 8 hours a day. Halo is not nearly as skill oriented as counterstrike or Quake jsut because someone can "master" the game in a a years time and get into the pro cicuit. You dont see many quake players eh?? ok completely ignore quakecon, and completely ignore that there are other countries other than the USA that have esports. Quake is still really big in Europe, Dreamhack in sweden is a 10,000 player lan for counterstrike and quake and other games. none of them are Halo. While Halo is good competetive game(im not bashing on it I play Halo and Follow MLG, its jsut the truth), it lacks the speed, the amount of skill, accuracy, timing, map agility, when compared to shooters like quake. A quake duel is like a chess match at 200 mph. QUake has no regen health, its all individual skill in a duel. TO say quake or twitch shooters are boring is shooting yourself in the foot.

Yup quake is boring compared to halo alright *sarcasm*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSUvYlve8qI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYUHVv6Op1c

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Too many nubs can't handle it.Prexxus

Twitch shooters really bring out the difference in skill gaps, which is awesome, people with no skills shouldn't get any kills. Which is why they don't catch on as much as nub games.

Twitch shooters really bring out the difference in skill gaps, which is awesome, people with no skills shouldn't get any kills. Which is why they don't catch on as much as nub games.

JigglyWiggly_

This.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

Twitch shooters really bring out the difference in skill gaps, which is awesome, people with no skills shouldn't get any kills. Which is why they don't catch on as much as nub games.

Av177

This.

They need to make another UT, except one that doesn't suck this time :cry:

I loved UT and UT 2004. UT3 was such a huge disappointment...

Too many nubs can't handle it.JigglyWiggly_

Halo is casual? Halo pro players make hundreds of thousands in tournaments. I don't see much Quake players and I don't think the reason is because they can't handle it. It's just plain boring. Prexxus

Please show me those Halo players that make hundreds of thousands in tournaments.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Too many nubs can't handle it.kdawg88

[QUOTE="Prexxus"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]Arena Twitch shooters needa resurgence, but the problem is that too many mainstream gamers are too hooked on super slow games like Halo, they couln't handle the speed of quake, and people tend to not like getting killed over and over. appealing to the casual market is what has really hurt gaming this gen.AiurProtoss

No they don't ive been following mlg since 2006 and the most they make is 100,000 for first place at Halo nationals, and 20,000 for 1st place at any normal event, and that is a team total prize money, so 100,000 minus tax of course, then they each get their share of the cash. And only the top 3 teams really get worthwhile money to sit a and practice for 8 hours a day. Halo is not nearly as skill oriented as counterstrike or Quake jsut because someone can "master" the game in a a years time and get into the pro cicuit. You dont see many quake players eh?? ok completely ignore quakecon, and completely ignore that there are other countries other than the USA that have esports. Quake is still really big in Europe, Dreamhack in sweden is a 10,000 player lan for counterstrike and quake and other games. none of them are Halo. While Halo is good competetive game(im not bashing on it I play Halo and Follow MLG, its jsut the truth), it lacks the speed, the amount of skill, accuracy, timing, map agility, when compared to shooters like quake. A quake duel is like a chess match at 200 mph. QUake has no regen health, its all individual skill in a duel. TO say quake or twitch shooters are boring is shooting yourself in the foot.

Yup quake is boring compared to halo alright *sarcasm*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSUvYlve8qI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYUHVv6Op1c

[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]

[QUOTE="Prexxus"] Halo is casual? Halo pro players make hundreds of thousands in tournaments. I don't see much Quake players and I don't think the reason is because they can't handle it. It's just plain boring. 1q3er5

No they don't ive been following mlg since 2006 and the most they make is 100,000 for first place at Halo nationals, and 20,000 for 1st place at any normal event, and that is a team total prize money, so 100,000 minus tax of course, then they each get their share of the cash. And only the top 3 teams really get worthwhile money to sit a and practice for 8 hours a day. Halo is not nearly as skill oriented as counterstrike or Quake jsut because someone can "master" the game in a a years time and get into the pro cicuit. You dont see many quake players eh?? ok completely ignore quakecon, and completely ignore that there are other countries other than the USA that have esports. Quake is still really big in Europe, Dreamhack in sweden is a 10,000 player lan for counterstrike and quake and other games. none of them are Halo. While Halo is good competetive game(im not bashing on it I play Halo and Follow MLG, its jsut the truth), it lacks the speed, the amount of skill, accuracy, timing, map agility, when compared to shooters like quake. A quake duel is like a chess match at 200 mph. QUake has no regen health, its all individual skill in a duel. TO say quake or twitch shooters are boring is shooting yourself in the foot.

Yup quake is boring compared to halo alright *sarcasm*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSUvYlve8qI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYUHVv6Op1c

[QUOTE="kdawg88"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Too many nubs can't handle it.Prexxus

yes and to some extent its true. Most people are very casual gamers, and Halo is mostly a casual game, but its one of those games that can be played competetively when tweaked correctly as MLG does. Halo is a game thats easy to pick up and play but it takes somewhat of a timeframe and teamwork mind you, to master. Quake is a very hardcore twitch shooter that takes an incredible amount of skill, its either all out or gtfo in this game. Most real gamers would quake fun if they knew more about it, but since they have COD and halo slpped in their face so much how can they?? they think Halo and COD is the appex of competetive play, and then i hear things like "what is taht game it looks old, eeew the graphis" without having an idea as to how complex the game is.

I feel the same way.. I really miss how shooters where just a group of guys on a map killing eachother.. none of this killstreak, deathstreak, perk, and leveling up nonsense. SLUSHiNaToR

Battles for supremacy, oh how the arrogant think they have won.

My game is superior to your game for this reason and this other reason, and you are dumb because you like a certain game on a certain platform...

I for one, wouldn't mind a few new Arena shooter's thrown in the mix, I might enjoy one every now and then, so may others, I also would hate it, if they were the only shooters being released. (it is then when fps games will become boring)

Lastly you know nothing of the skill I may or may not have, so think a little bit before you vomit the words: "You are only saying that because you have no skill, you noob."

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Battles for supremacy, oh how the arrogant think they have won.

My game is superior to your game for this reason and this other reason, and you are dumb because you like a certain game on a certain platform...

I for one, wouldn't mind a few new Arena shooter's thrown in the mix, I might enjoy one every now and then, so may others, I also would hate it, if they were the only shooters being released. (it is then when fps games will become boring)

Lastly you know nothing of the skill I may or may not have, so think a little bit before you vomit the words: "You are only saying that because you have no skill, you noob."

AiurProtoss

umad?

No, no need to be... are you?

That was not anger in those words, but compassion for the "idiocracy" I see posted here all the time.

The closest we are to something like Quake 3 is Team Fortress 2 or Quake Live of course, but that more or less is Quake 3. Serious Sam HD also gets pretty close, but there's no rocket jumping for example.

[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]Arena Twitch shooters needa resurgence, but the problem is that too many mainstream gamers are too hooked on super slow games like Halo, they couln't handle the speed of quake, and people tend to not like getting killed over and over. appealing to the casual market is what has really hurt gaming this gen.Prexxus

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]Quake was easier to play than Halo in my opinion. I could do pretty well in Quake whereas in Halo I would get murdered over and over again. In reality I think they play very similarly anyways...both are very fast paced online. Oh and Lach0121, well said man.chester706

Nope, sorry. And in reality I could say the same about you regarding Halo...but I don't like to make assumptions about total strangers that I know nothing about.

Arena Twitch shooters needa resurgence, but the problem is that too many mainstream gamers are too hooked on super slow games like Halo, they couln't handle the speed of quake, and people tend to not like getting killed over and over. appealing to the casual market is what has really hurt gaming this gen.AiurProtoss

[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]Arena Twitch shooters needa resurgence, but the problem is that too many mainstream gamers are too hooked on super slow games like Halo, they couln't handle the speed of quake, and people tend to not like getting killed over and over. appealing to the casual market is what has really hurt gaming this gen.blues35301

yeah but the problem there are waaay too many of them out on the market, no one ever said to have ONLY twitch arena shooters, we jsut want them to come back so there is a balance I remember switching from UT2k4 to Battlefield 2, I preffered UT2k4 but having options and a change of pace is good. If you were to play slower team based shooters all the time you would get bored as well.

I'm waiting patiently

Can not easily determine the direction of its development

[QUOTE="kdawg88"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Too many nubs can't handle it.Prexxus

[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]Arena Twitch shooters needa resurgence, but the problem is that too many mainstream gamers are too hooked on super slow games like Halo, they couln't handle the speed of quake, and people tend to not like getting killed over and over. appealing to the casual market is what has really hurt gaming this gen.blues35301

Or maybe some of us just don't like arena/twitch shooters........:Plettuceman44

I just can't understand why is UT3 so unpopular. It's not exactly groundbreaking like the first UT was but it can be great fun. I'm still hoping it will become popular in the future so I'm keeping my copy somewhere safe.