ARMA II or operation flashpoint 2:DR

ARMA II of course and download the patches!

I still haven't received my copy of OPF2 (DAMN YOU AMAZON!) but I have ARMA 2, and I really think it's too clunky to be fun. People say it's realistic, but I've never had to scroll through menus to tell somebody to move ahead or to pull a knife out of my belt before in real life, so I think "realistic" is being used pretty generously in this case. Not only are the controls clunky, but the sound (voices mostly) is weird to me, and the combat is kind of bland. What I really like ARMA 2 for is the armory, heh.

I still haven't received my copy of OPF2 (DAMN YOU AMAZON!) but I have ARMA 2, and I really think it's too clunky to be fun. People say it's realistic, but I've never had to scroll through menus to tell somebody to move ahead or to pull a knife out of my belt before in real life, so I think "realistic" is being used pretty generously in this case. Not only are the controls clunky, but the sound (voices mostly) is weird to me, and the combat is kind of bland. What I really like ARMA 2 for is the armory, heh.

MangaJugs

Manga the reason the voices sound weird is BIS is located in the Czech Republic so the english voice acting is not the best. It's a pretty small studio from what I know of it.

As for the menu system it is the one BIS has used since the original Operation Flashpoint. It can be a little cumbersome but people get used to it over time. As for "realistic" options for drawing weapons and such it's no more unrealistic as pressing a button on the keyboard.

I can see you thinking the game is bland. I have a lot of friends that say the same thing. But it is a combat simulator. As such a lot of the missions are more realistic and not a bunch of non stop action. But that is why I like it. It gives a real sense of being a soldier in the battlefield.

If you like the armory look at the modding community. They are pretty good about adding weapons and vehicles from particular military units.

I just installed OF : DC so I'm going to check it out. If anyone is interested I'll give an unbiased opion of both. Not a this game sucks because the other game does this better but what I liked about it and how it differs from the other.

ALso, my PC runs Crysis with almost no issues, and that is likely the most demanding game out there for both CPUs and GPUs; if a small studio like Crytek can refine a powerhouse game like Crysis, I do not see why BI cant do the same.mrbojangles25

Well played my first 30 minutes of the single player in Op Flash. Reminds me of a call of duty type game with the ability to roam freely. Which isn't bad but not what I really wanted from a game that has Operation Flashpoint in the title. I guess I was expecting it to stay true to the original. Which is probably why I enjoy ARMA 2 more.

I kept getting the feeling that OFDC was primarily designed with consoles in mind from the beginning. What the game does it does fairly well but I've seen it before. I'm not saying I don't enjoy the game but after 30 minutes it didn't grab me and make me want to play a bunch more. I like the game but I feel a little let down. I think I was expecting more from it. The graphics are nice but nothing spectacular. The controls work but it bugged me that to order the AI squadmates or change weapons my character was stuck in place. I really missed the fact that I can freely look around in ARMA 2 and not move my gun where I look. I ran straight in to one checkpoint, flanked four guys at about 10 feet with my character and them in the open and killed 3 of them before I finally got shot. I drove a humvee aroundand bashed it in to every tree I could find. Rolled it off a cliff on to the beach, got out pushed it over and it looked exactly the same as when I got in it. I wanted to try the multiplayer but registering through the game kept disconnecting me from their server, probably due to excessive traffic. I haven't tried the editor yet so I won't comment on it.

I'm not saying ARMA 2 is perfect but what it does it does well. And that takes everything that made the original Operation Flashpoint great and expands upon it.

So I would say if your looking for another shooter with a good presentation, nice graphics and good story that lets you freely roam the game world then pick Operation Flashpoint DC up. But if your expecting it to be anything like the original or something that isn't run of the mill then I would go with ARMA 2.

I think the whole argument of which one is better is irrelavant. I don't consider these games to be remotely similar. I would consider Operation Flashpoint a First Person Shooter in the traditional sense and ARMA 2 more of a simulation. To me comparing the two would be like trying to compare Blazing Angels to IL2-Stumovik (original PC version). One is a more arcade style flight combat game and the other is a true combat flght simulator.

What it boils down to is whichever one you like better. Hollywood style war or real war.

Well played my first 30 minutes of the single player in Op Flash. Reminds me of a call of duty type game with the ability to roam freely. Which isn't bad but not what I really wanted from a game that has Operation Flashpoint in the title. I guess I was expecting it to stay true to the original. Which is probably why I enjoy ARMA 2 more.

I kept getting the feeling that OFDC was primarily designed with consoles in mind from the beginning. What the game does it does fairly well but I've seen it before. I'm not saying I don't enjoy the game but after 30 minutes it didn't grab me and make me want to play a bunch more. I like the game but I feel a little let down. I think I was expecting more from it. The graphics are nice but nothing spectacular. The controls work but it bugged me that to order the AI squadmates or change weapons my character was stuck in place. I really missed the fact that I can freely look around in ARMA 2 and not move my gun where I look. I ran straight in to one checkpoint, flanked four guys at about 10 feet with my character and them in the open and killed 3 of them before I finally got shot. I drove a humvee aroundand bashed it in to every tree I could find. Rolled it off a cliff on to the beach, got out pushed it over and it looked exactly the same as when I got in it. I wanted to try the multiplayer but registering through the game kept disconnecting me from their server, probably due to excessive traffic. I haven't tried the editor yet so I won't comment on it.

I'm not saying ARMA 2 is perfect but what it does it does well. And that takes everything that made the original Operation Flashpoint great and expands upon it.

So I would say if your looking for another shooter with a good presentation, nice graphics and good story that lets you freely roam the game world then pick Operation Flashpoint DC up. But if your expecting it to be anything like the original or something that isn't run of the mill then I would go with ARMA 2.

I think the whole argument of which one is better is irrelavant. I don't consider these games to be remotely similar. I would consider Operation Flashpoint a First Person Shooter in the traditional sense and ARMA 2 more of a simulation. To me comparing the two would be like trying to compare Blazing Angels to IL2-Stumovik (original PC version). One is a more arcade style flight combat game and the other is a true combat flght simulator.

What it boils down to is whichever one you like better. Hollywood style war or real war.

shaggni444

I agree with your overall point but you need to give OF2 a little bit more credit. It is nothing like Call of Duty. While youre right in that it does not come close to the simulation level of ArmA II, it is still far from Hollywood.

It was definately developed with consoles in mind, though, totally right about that.

I will go back and play it more. I only paid $30 for an import version as I was sceptical and it was worth that. I'm glad I didn't buy it for the 360 though as I would have been very disappointed.

I'll retract the Hollywood statement as it definitely is not as bad as COD but not close to the claims of realism I was expecting from all the developer videos. This was just a situation where I think I raised my expectations higher than what the game gave me and was let down. It's hard to not be disappointed when the orginal Flashpoint was such a great game and inovation. And I find that same feeling playing ARMA 2 and was kind of expecting it from DR. I believe people who never played the original OF will get great enjoyment out of this game and even people who did play the original will too as long as they aren't expecting it to be like the original.

I agree that multiplayer isn't a must for a lot of games but I am disappointed to hear all the complaints of DR multiplayer. Still haven't played it so I can't give an honest opinion. But I think that is where ARMA 2 shines. I can sit down and create a scenario. Load myself and some buddies in to a chopper and play army for a little while.

All and all the games both good at what they do. I just think there are going to be a lot of people out there that are going to be disappionted by OF if the are looking for a more realistic offering as the developers, the back of the case and the OF namesake implies. I unfortunately can't fault codemasters as much as I would like as it's hard when you have the rights to a game in name but nothing else and are trying to come up with something original.

I just look at it this way. OF DR I could run for 100 yards full sprint and still shoot as straight as I do standing completely still. ARMA 2? Good luck hitting a vehicle as it definitely effects your accuracy. I don't find one any better than the other as far as fun. I like both but one game is designed to be ultra realistic and the other claims realism. That is what I find fault in and I think others have too. Both games are respectively good. I just wanted to put my two cents in so people know what they are getting from each game. I'm not saying OF DR is not realistic. It is much more so than other games but it's not to the level that I believe I thought it would be or the namesake implies.

I would recommend both but if you had to choose just one then ask yourself this. Fan of the original OF? ARMA 2 hands down. Fan of military FPS that delve in to the realm of realism and are not conserned with multiplayer at this time then go with OF DR.