Audiophile / Hi-Fi discussion with my old man

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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]Again this is not a popularity contest, you're focusing on a mass market product, while speakers using Seas drivers are more exclusive, in fact there are only 2 dealers in Norway, one of them is their factory. Even Joe D'Appolito uses Seas in his builds, and his clients are companies like Usher, and Snell (he's currently their chief engineer). You're avoiding the question and throwing out generalizations. Next time you want to make an argument take some time to do some real research.

NVIDIATI

And why isn't a popularity contest valid when its from enthusiasts? unless speakers using Seas cost like $200K there is no reason why these people who spend $5K-$50K on their home cinemes don't get them...

And even if I wanted exclusive-house priced speakers I'd go for Snell THX speakers (:

Just a few examples of speakers using Seas:

Snell LCR7 XL

Snell B7 Reference

Snell A7 Reference Towers

Linkwitz Orion

Tyler Accoustics Woodmere

Tyler Acoustics Linbrook

Tyler Acoustics Decade

Seas Thor

Zaph ZA-SR71

Seas Idunn

Joseph Audio Pearl2

Snell IC-B7S

Snell IC-B7VH

Snell IC-C7S

Snell IC-C7VH

Interesting... Do you know what drivers the Snell THX Music & Cinema reference use?

Finding information about them is IMPOSSIBLE. I've chatted with Kipnis on Facebook about his speakers a few times, but never asked about drivers.

Are they Seas too?

I couldn't even find a picture of the Snell speakers :S And they're not on their website either... :(

PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE MULTIPLE PICTURES.

It makes scrolling through posts a PITA

@Moz, I don't know exactly, but I would imagine a mix of Seas and Scan Speak. There is a chance the components were custom made from either company, but I can't say for sure.

^ I don't know exactly, but I would imagine a mix of Seas and Scan Speak. There is a change the components were custom made, but I can't say forsure.

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^ I don't know exactly, but I would imagine a mix of Seas and Scan Speak. There is a chance the components were custom made, but I can't say forsure.

Mozelleple112

Also to answer the second part, both the tweeter and mid/woofer are equally important.

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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

^ I don't know exactly, but I would imagine a mix of Seas and Scan Speak. There is a chance the components were custom made, but I can't say forsure.

NVIDIATI

Also to answer the second part, both the tweeter and mid/woofer are equally important.

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] So how exactly does buying Seas benefit me for living in Norway lol? Not all Germans should get a Porsche if their rich... Same with rich Italians being allowed to drive Aston Martins :P I can bet you a dime that you can get Seas driven speakers cheaper than I can anyways :cry: Question 2: Just what is the most important part of a speaker? Driver? Tweeter?

Mozelleple112

Also to answer the second part, both the tweeter and mid/woofer are equally important.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Seas has a budget line that is also made in Norway, and you don't have to pay any premium (unlike the B&W 680's which are made in China yet B&W still charges extra). The Seas Prestige can be found in speakers like the Idunn or Zaph posted above. Those are in the $500-$700 range.

Also to answer the second part, both the tweeter and mid/woofer are equally important.

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A bad cabinet will make any speaker sound bad while poor speakers always sound poor. So if you get either wrong you're in trouble.

But in a 3 way system the most important speaker is the mid range. The mid range usually plays through frequencies our ears are most sensitive too as well as most vocals and instruments. An excellent tweeter and woofer can't make up for a terrible mid range speaker, but the opposite is almost true. Poor tweeters are usually fatiguing and harsh and not enjoyable to listen to. Poor woofers will just produce muddy low end. A bad crossover will screw things up considerably and cause gaps in the audio spectrum or too much overlap causing woofers to play in the kHz range.

So my order of importance:

1. Cabinet
2. Midrange
3. Tweeter
4. Woofer

Crossover is expected to be done right. I'd say the worst crossover you can have is a lack of one.

I have to give props to Paradigm... One of the few companies who still pretty much designs and builds most of their speakers and parts in Canada and still makes some of the best speakers for the money.rastan

Hmm apperently Wilson Audio Puppy uses Seas drivers :o

Some of the finest speakers in the world right there ;)

According to one of the posters, these either use or have used their drivers

Sonus Faber, Tandberg, XTZ, Montana, Wilson, Monitor Audio, Dunlavy, Audio Physic, Burmester, Pass Labs, PSB og Patos

Anyways...

DO WANT! iso $50K :L

Hey NVidiATI I found out Seas headquarters/factory is just a 30 minute drive my house. Its in a city/town called Moss, which is in the same county as mine, meaning I can use my student card to travel their free of charge (Except the montly fee I pay).

might pay them a visit if they have free tests/demos/shows... !

Hey NVidiATI I found out Seas headquarters/factory is just a 30 minute drive my house. Its in a city/town called Moss, which is in the same county as mine, meaning I can use my student card to travel their free of charge (Except the montly fee I pay).

might pay them a visit if they have free tests/demos/shows... !

Mozelleple112

Watts mean nothing. You want high fidelity at a given DB level, nothing more. If you want house shaking bass, there is a type of subwoofer design called the tuba HT. It can be built for under $400 and go as low as 10hz.

As for everything else, some good brands are polk and klipsch (avoid bose).

6_Dead_360s

If you want house shaking bass build your own subwoofer box, like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epgWrleWHlY&feature=related

^Pfft. Tuba HT FTW! :D