Bad luck with PC gaming... Starting to think console is the way...

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#51 topsemag55
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Deciding off of one game isn't smart, few games release in as poor condition as RAGE did, and just because nvidia had less problems with RAGE doesn't mean they will always have less problems, in Deus Ex HR and Witcher 2 nvidia cards were worse off than AMD when they first released.

And BF3 beta is a beta, that is all i'm going to say on that subject.

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Yes, but both CDPR and Nvidia teamed up very quickly and both issued a fix. It's a good example of Nvidia showing support for a developer that goes the extra mile by using the GPU command set within the executable.
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#52 Tezcatlipoca666
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Lesson I learned:

1. Only buy nVidvia graphic card for the rest of my life

2. Never buy another game from id, at least not new games

5. Suck it up and learn to play FPS with a console controller

6. Settle with lesser graphic and control but trouble free game play on PS3/xbox360

epichotcheese

Complete overreaction but OK. Knock yourself out dude.

I'll just leave this here though: http://www.gameblurb.net/news/dragon-age-2-direct-x11-has-terrible-performance-for-nvidia-owners/

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#53 AWolfoftheCalla
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this thread makes me lol.... nothing but a bunch of PC fanboys raging because someone posted a truthful argument. "PC first" development is dieing at a fast rate. look at ID software and RAGE. a developer that has only developed for the PC since its very beginning.... now produces a game where the PC version has no graphical settings and MAJOR issues.Crysis 2 anyone? Epic games who pretty much now ONLY makes games for consoles when they were major PC champions back in the day? the writting is all over the walls people.

get over yourselves. PC gaming is great for certain genres, but it doesnt make the kind of money consoles do and therefore developers are abandoning ship at a rapid rate. PC gaming certainly isnt "dieing".... but seriously, if you dont think "PC first" development isnt going away, you are naive.

skrat_01

Well no, you're wrong. T

hese are people unhappy at a supported product release on the platform, which was developed for the platform as well. And that's perfectly reasonable circumstances to be unhappy.

Guess what these developers have changed their direction, and guess what, for massive triple A budget shooters they're obviously going to aim for a wider general demographic to make ends meet. RAGE was aimed at that audience first and foremost, that was no secret, however that's no excuse to release a poor build on the PC.

Does that mean the PC isn't developed first in mind? Well even in these circumstances no, BF3 is being developed for just that, and the PC has seen a massive increase in support and development on a whole, in a massive acceleration in the past three years - much of it thanks to the evolving distribution models of the platform.

Which means a variety of games can be financed and developed, not just triple A big budget titles, aimed at a general audience, which console games generally are.

Different strokes.

There's no such thing as a definitive 'first in mind' platform to develop for, and if you assume so you're wrong.

ok..... so im right then. you just said it right in your own post. so actually, when you said im wrong.... you meant i was right. yes, developers have indeed changed their direction.... AWAY from "PC first" development due to the MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of extra revenue they can capture from the console market. thx for the support. its hard to argue with me when im right the majority of the time.
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#54 AWolfoftheCalla
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

Deciding off of one game isn't smart, few games release in as poor condition as RAGE did, and just because nvidia had less problems with RAGE doesn't mean they will always have less problems, in Deus Ex HR and Witcher 2 nvidia cards were worse off than AMD when they first released.

And BF3 beta is a beta, that is all i'm going to say on that subject.

topsemag55
Yes, but both CDPR and Nvidia teamed up very quickly and both issued a fix. It's a good example of Nvidia showing support for a developer that goes the extra mile by using the GPU command set within the executable.

errrrrmmmmm..... a large number of people with AMD cards couldnt even run DX:HR AT ALL when it first came out....meanwhile i heard almost no complaints from nvidia users. are you sure you arent confused?
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#55 Jd1680a
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It seems like alot of people with AMD graphic cards are having problems with Rage. Hopefully a new driver update will be available by next week.
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#56 Inconsistancy
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It seems like alot of people with AMD graphic cards are having problems with Rage. Hopefully a new driver update will be available by next week.Jd1680a
The driver released 31ish~? hours ago is working wonderfully... you're a bit late to the party.

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#57 C_Rule
Member since 2008 • 9816 Posts
[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I know 3 different people who, over the years have gotten mutliple 360s because of the RROD.

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My mates have gone through 2 360s (onto their third). First one RROD, second had failed optical drive. It kills me to think what kind of PC they could have gotten, for the price of three crappy consoles.

MS replaces them for free though, so its not a huge deal IMO. the biggest downside was being without a 360 for a few days.

I dunno if they ran out of warrenty, or what happened, but I know they payed for their replacement consoles.
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#58 ArchonOver
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="AWolfoftheCalla"]

this thread makes me lol.... nothing but a bunch of PC fanboys raging because someone posted a truthful argument. "PC first" development is dieing at a fast rate. look at ID software and RAGE. a developer that has only developed for the PC since its very beginning.... now produces a game where the PC version has no graphical settings and MAJOR issues.Crysis 2 anyone? Epic games who pretty much now ONLY makes games for consoles when they were major PC champions back in the day? the writting is all over the walls people.

get over yourselves. PC gaming is great for certain genres, but it doesnt make the kind of money consoles do and therefore developers are abandoning ship at a rapid rate. PC gaming certainly isnt "dieing".... but seriously, if you dont think "PC first" development isnt going away, you are naive.

AWolfoftheCalla

Well no, you're wrong. T

hese are people unhappy at a supported product release on the platform, which was developed for the platform as well. And that's perfectly reasonable circumstances to be unhappy.

Guess what these developers have changed their direction, and guess what, for massive triple A budget shooters they're obviously going to aim for a wider general demographic to make ends meet. RAGE was aimed at that audience first and foremost, that was no secret, however that's no excuse to release a poor build on the PC.

Does that mean the PC isn't developed first in mind? Well even in these circumstances no, BF3 is being developed for just that, and the PC has seen a massive increase in support and development on a whole, in a massive acceleration in the past three years - much of it thanks to the evolving distribution models of the platform.

Which means a variety of games can be financed and developed, not just triple A big budget titles, aimed at a general audience, which console games generally are.

Different strokes.

There's no such thing as a definitive 'first in mind' platform to develop for, and if you assume so you're wrong.

ok..... so im right then. you just said it right in your own post. so actually, when you said im wrong.... you meant i was right. yes, developers have indeed changed their direction.... AWAY from "PC first" development due to the MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of extra revenue they can capture from the console market. thx for the support. its hard to argue with me when im right the majority of the time.

I know right? The Witcher 2 was such a console port... Oh wait... Well I know for a fact that SWTOR is a console port... Wait, wrong again... Battlefield 3 is coming out for consoles, so it'll be a console port!... Oh wait, they're developing the PC game as a PC game... Damn it...

Seriously, get off your high horse. There are many, MANY triple A titles being made for PC. Besides the ones I listed above, you can count in any Sim expansions, the Starcraft 2 expansion, Shogun, then you have Diablo 3 coming out, DOTA 2 coming out, Guild Wars 2 coming out.

And if you want to talk about non AAA games, there are many, many indie games being released for PC. In fact, the PC exlusives outnumber any console.

If you want some big company names? Blizzard, EA, BioWare, Cd Projekt, and Value to name a few.

It's not hard to argue with you because you're right, it's hard because you're wrong but you believe you're right.

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#59 DJP3000
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I also have been having bad luck with PC gaming and was thinking about selling my GTX 580 anddowngrading toa GT520 and selling 8GB of my 16GB RAM. Dirt 3 I had crashes in the menu while loading stuff, F1 2011 I had crashing in DX11 mode in menus and had 3 second stutters sometimes which I found a workaround (same problem I had in F1 2010 but not as often in F1 2011). I also don't like the idea of some PC games requiring me to be online while I play in single player mode because my internet connection might go out or the game's servers might be down. Assassin's Creed II's always-online DRM sometimes wouldn't let me connect to Ubisoft's servers althoughmy internet connection still worked and I couldn't play for a few minutes. Assassin's Creed Brotherhood took much longer to start if I was disconnected from the internet or I couldn't connect to the server but at least there was an offline mode in that game. Also I noticed that most multiplatform games are released later than the console versions.I recenlty bought Rage for the PC and haven't had any problemswithit. It seems that game developers are more focused on consoles and leave PC as an afterthought.

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#60 fanatic_4k
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Hey epichotcheese, so sad to hear this from you, but I think it doesn't mean all PC games suck :D This is just because of the hardware not supporting. But I agree with you on the 3rd point. I'd wait the game till it released and read some reviews first lol!
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#61 yellosnolvr
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u think it's all perfect in console land?

FelipeInside

my 3rd 360 concurs

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#62 JigglyWiggly_
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#5 LOL

Go back to consoles.

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#63 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="AWolfoftheCalla"]

this thread makes me lol.... nothing but a bunch of PC fanboys raging because someone posted a truthful argument. "PC first" development is dieing at a fast rate. look at ID software and RAGE. a developer that has only developed for the PC since its very beginning.... now produces a game where the PC version has no graphical settings and MAJOR issues.Crysis 2 anyone? Epic games who pretty much now ONLY makes games for consoles when they were major PC champions back in the day? the writting is all over the walls people.

get over yourselves. PC gaming is great for certain genres, but it doesnt make the kind of money consoles do and therefore developers are abandoning ship at a rapid rate. PC gaming certainly isnt "dieing".... but seriously, if you dont think "PC first" development isnt going away, you are naive.

AWolfoftheCalla

Well no, you're wrong. T

hese are people unhappy at a supported product release on the platform, which was developed for the platform as well. And that's perfectly reasonable circumstances to be unhappy.

Guess what these developers have changed their direction, and guess what, for massive triple A budget shooters they're obviously going to aim for a wider general demographic to make ends meet. RAGE was aimed at that audience first and foremost, that was no secret, however that's no excuse to release a poor build on the PC.

Does that mean the PC isn't developed first in mind? Well even in these circumstances no, BF3 is being developed for just that, and the PC has seen a massive increase in support and development on a whole, in a massive acceleration in the past three years - much of it thanks to the evolving distribution models of the platform.

Which means a variety of games can be financed and developed, not just triple A big budget titles, aimed at a general audience, which console games generally are.

Different strokes.

There's no such thing as a definitive 'first in mind' platform to develop for, and if you assume so you're wrong.

ok..... so im right then. you just said it right in your own post. so actually, when you said im wrong.... you meant i was right. yes, developers have indeed changed their direction.... AWAY from "PC first" development due to the MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of extra revenue they can capture from the console market. thx for the support. its hard to argue with me when im right the majority of the time.

No you were completely wrong in the regard of "nothing but a bunch of PC fanboys raging because someone posted a truthful argument". People are 'raging' at the state of the game, first and foremost, they have every right to. Otherwise you must've missed my point entirely. "Does that mean the PC isn't developed first in mind? Well even in these circumstances no, BF3 is being developed for just that, and the PC has seen a massive increase in support and development on a whole, in a massive acceleration in the past three years - much of it thanks to the evolving distribution models of the platform" Triple A games =/= gaming, you'd have to be delusional to think this was so.
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#64 amphitheater
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Lesson of the day: don't buy games that you don't know the specs first.