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#1 Miyomatic
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I've compared 4 pre-built computers from Newegg and need help deciding which one to get. I eventually plan to upgrade parts as a way to learn how to build from the groundup but would also like the most bang for my buck starting out. Out of the ones compared, which one do you recommend? If you honestly think I should take another route altogether, let me know.

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#2 zaku101
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Best 1 out of them all.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227410

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#3 RyviusARC
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The one with the GTX 560 has the better video card but the one the guy above me linked has a better CPU. I am more inclined to go with the PC that has the GTX 560. GPU performance is usually more important as most games are not CPU intensive. So I would pick this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227383
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Yep go for the gpu advantage for sure :)
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#6 zaku101
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The reason why I chose the first one. When you actually upgrade the GPU down the road you're looking at a 20-65FPS difference between the CPUs. Since more games are putting better use on the CPU. But as of right now that 7550 isn't going to run current games very well. The GTX560 gets at least 20-40 more FPS.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150--8120-6100-and-4100-performance-review/10

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-8120-6100-4100_6.html

It's really hard to pick one for you. I'd probably go withRyviusARC choice since I am not even sure if down the road you're going to be into computers as much or gaming on them. So as of right now RyviusARC choice would offer the best gaming solution but down the road mine would benefit you more and last longer.

Spend more get the best of both worlds...

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The reason why I chose the first one. When you actually upgrade the GPU down the road you're looking at a 20-65FPS difference between the CPUs. Since more games are putting better use on the CPU. But as of right now that 7550 isn't going to run current games very well. The GTX560 gets at least 20-40 more FPS.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150--8120-6100-and-4100-performance-review/10

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-8120-6100-4100_6.html

It's really hard to pick one for you. I'd probably go withRyviusARC choice since I am not even sure if down the road you're going to be into computers as much or gaming on them. So as of right now RyviusARC choice would offer the best gaming solution but down the road mine would benefit you more and last longer.

Spend more get the best of both worlds...

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All true but I don't see the TC going with a gpu upgrade down the road if this is how he's looking for a new computer. I'd have to throw in for the first one because it's an easier way for him to go given his inexperience with computers. He'll get the most out of that system without having to try and figure out how to upgrade (which obviously also includes spending more money). However, having said that, the one you posted would be a great way to go if he can spend more money later and wants to attempt swapping out a card (and TC, it's pretty easy to do once you get over the initial apprehension may people have when they do it for the first time).

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AMD and 560.

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#9 blaznwiipspman1
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intel and the 7750. Why? Because the video cards in both computers are within 40-50% difference, but the intel cpu is about 100% faster than the AMD cpu clock for clock (no exaggeration). Video cards are cheap and frequently new ones come out every couple of months and are also very easy to replace. Definitely go with the intel and the radeon 7750. Only an idiot would tell you to get the bulldozer and the 560.

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If you want to play games, the GPU is the most important by far. An FX 6100 with a 560 will curb stomp an i5 3570k and a 7750.

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#18 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

I've compared 4 pre-built computers from Newegg and need help deciding which one to get. I eventually plan to upgrade parts as a way to learn how to build from the groundup but would also like the most bang for my buck starting out. Out of the ones compared, which one do you recommend? If you honestly think I should take another route altogether, let me know.

xboxownzuall545

Go with this one out of the ones you linked. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227410 HOLDS 32 GB of memory the other computers only hold 8gb or 16gb .

That is the worst reason possible.

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[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"][QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

I've compared 4 pre-built computers from Newegg and need help deciding which one to get. I eventually plan to upgrade parts as a way to learn how to build from the groundup but would also like the most bang for my buck starting out. Out of the ones compared, which one do you recommend? If you honestly think I should take another route altogether, let me know.

GummiRaccoon

Go with this one out of the ones you linked. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227410 HOLDS 32 GB of memory the other computers only hold 8gb or 16gb .

That is the worst reason possible.

Nope games like crysis 2 already need like 8gb ram to play dx11 mode smoothly.
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#20 xboxownzuall545
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[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"][QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

I've compared 4 pre-built computers from Newegg and need help deciding which one to get. I eventually plan to upgrade parts as a way to learn how to build from the groundup but would also like the most bang for my buck starting out. Out of the ones compared, which one do you recommend? If you honestly think I should take another route altogether, let me know.

GummiRaccoon

Go with this one out of the ones you linked. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227410 HOLDS 32 GB of memory the other computers only hold 8gb or 16gb .

That is the worst reason possible.

you always wanted to go with a pc that supports the most memory.
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#21 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"] Go with this one out of the ones you linked. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227410 HOLDS 32 GB of memory the other computers only hold 8gb or 16gb .xboxownzuall545

That is the worst reason possible.

you always wanted to go with a pc that supports the most memory.

I don't know who told you that, but they were full of Sh!t

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#23 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"] you always wanted to go with a pc that supports the most memory.xboxownzuall545

I don't know who told you that, but they were full of Sh!t

games soon will be requiring 16gb or 32 gb dude. LOL crysis 2 dx11 already recommends 8gb.

You clearly know nothing on this subject, stop posting.

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#26 GummiRaccoon
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i been pc gaming since 1994. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227410 That pc has a good cpu and holds the most amount of memory that's overall the best pc in this thread. you will need to add a more powerful card to run games on max but yea its the best.xboxownzuall545

You've been not knowing what your doing since 1994 then.

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#29 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"]i been pc gaming since 1994. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227410 That pc has a good cpu and holds the most amount of memory that's overall the best pc in this thread. you will need to add a more powerful card to run games on max but yea its the best.xboxownzuall545

You've been not knowing what your doing since 1994 then.

its the best cpu and holds the most amount of memory it's the best pc. you add ur own graphics card.

Terrible terrible reason

And spending 800 dollars on a PC BEFORE adding in your own graphics card is stupid.

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#30 xboxownzuall545
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[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

You've been not knowing what your doing since 1994 then.

GummiRaccoon

its the best cpu and holds the most amount of memory it's the best pc. you add ur own graphics card.

Terrible terrible reason

And spending 800 dollars on a PC BEFORE adding in your own graphics card is stupid.

nope building that same pc would cost 800$
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#32 GummiRaccoon
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This isnt even my first acount here in the picture and this acount is from 2004 lmao look at message october 13th 2004 LMAO  xboxownzuall545

If you were a pentium fan boy in 2004, I dunno what is wrong with you.

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[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"]This isnt even my first acount here in the picture and this acount is from 2004 lmao look at message october 13th 2004 LMAO  GummiRaccoon

If you were a pentium fan boy in 2004, I dunno what is wrong with you.

2004 i had athlon 64 but i told the dude intel's going to release core 2 duo processors and smoke amd well and they did lol.
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#34 xboxownzuall545
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Best 1 out of them all.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227410

zaku101
most future proof computer in this thread
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#35 xboxownzuall545
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Maximum Memory Supported 8GB BUYPOWER AMD FX-6100(3.3GHz) 8GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 LOL THAT PC SUCKS. it's already maxed out on memory when u buy it LMAO
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"]This isnt even my first acount here in the picture and this acount is from 2004 lmao look at message october 13th 2004 LMAO  xboxownzuall545

If you were a pentium fan boy in 2004, I dunno what is wrong with you.

2004 i had athlon 64 but i told the dude intel's going to release core 2 duo processors and smoke amd well and they did lol.

in 2004 you were bragging about processors that were going to come out in 2 years?

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[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"]Maximum Memory Supported 8GB BUYPOWER AMD FX-6100(3.3GHz) 8GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 LOL THAT PC SUCKS. it's already maxed out on memory when u buy it LMAO

I fail to see your logic here. 4 GB is plenty for anything (even Crysis 2) and 8 GB will be good for at least another 2-3 years. Not to mention the fact that Crysis 2 is one of the (if not the most) GPU intensive games out on the market today, I fail to see how TS getting more future RAM and a 7750 is better than getting 8 GB RAM and a 560. Source on Crysis 2 Specs: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=616&game=Crysis%202
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#39 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"] 2004 i had athlon 64 but i told the dude intel's going to release core 2 duo processors and smoke amd well and they did lol.xboxownzuall545

in 2004 you were bragging about processors that were going to come out in 2 years?

Read because i read about em lol it's called keeping up with intels roadmap.

bro, you got all kinds of problems.

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[QUOTE="muffinduck01"][QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"]Maximum Memory Supported 8GB BUYPOWER AMD FX-6100(3.3GHz) 8GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 LOL THAT PC SUCKS. it's already maxed out on memory when u buy it LMAO

I fail to see your logic here. 4 GB is plenty for anything (even Crysis 2) and 8 GB will be good for at least another 2-3 years. Not to mention the fact that Crysis 2 is one of the (if not the most) GPU intensive games out on the market today, I fail to see how TS getting more future RAM and a 7750 is better than getting 8 GB RAM and a 560. Source on Crysis 2 Specs: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=616&game=Crysis%202

CRYSIS 2 DX11 Recommended: 64-bit Operating System Fast HDD or even SSD Quad Core CPU 8GB of RAM DX9 compatible graphic card with 1GB Video Memory.
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[QUOTE="muffinduck01"][QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"]Maximum Memory Supported 8GB BUYPOWER AMD FX-6100(3.3GHz) 8GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 LOL THAT PC SUCKS. it's already maxed out on memory when u buy it LMAO

I fail to see your logic here. 4 GB is plenty for anything (even Crysis 2) and 8 GB will be good for at least another 2-3 years. Not to mention the fact that Crysis 2 is one of the (if not the most) GPU intensive games out on the market today, I fail to see how TS getting more future RAM and a 7750 is better than getting 8 GB RAM and a 560. Source on Crysis 2 Specs: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=616&game=Crysis%202

Because the pc is more future proof dude he can add more memory than that pc later on down the road and add more powerful card.
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#43 xboxownzuall545
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When i got a prebuilt computer in 1999 i bought a graphics card for it. **** officemax even says they will upgrade ur pc for free lol says bring it in.
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#44 xboxownzuall545
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That 560 geforce isnt powerful enough for direct x 11+high res textures so he's gonna need to upgrade the card anyway.
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[QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"][QUOTE="muffinduck01"][QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"]Maximum Memory Supported 8GB BUYPOWER AMD FX-6100(3.3GHz) 8GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 LOL THAT PC SUCKS. it's already maxed out on memory when u buy it LMAO

I fail to see your logic here. 4 GB is plenty for anything (even Crysis 2) and 8 GB will be good for at least another 2-3 years. Not to mention the fact that Crysis 2 is one of the (if not the most) GPU intensive games out on the market today, I fail to see how TS getting more future RAM and a 7750 is better than getting 8 GB RAM and a 560. Source on Crysis 2 Specs: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=616&game=Crysis%202

CRYSIS 2 DX11 Recommended: 64-bit Operating System Fast HDD or even SSD Quad Core CPU 8GB of RAM DX9 compatible graphic card with 1GB Video Memory.

Do you have a source on that? Everywhere I go says 4 GB RAM.
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#46 xboxownzuall545
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[QUOTE="muffinduck01"][QUOTE="xboxownzuall545"][QUOTE="muffinduck01"] I fail to see your logic here. 4 GB is plenty for anything (even Crysis 2) and 8 GB will be good for at least another 2-3 years. Not to mention the fact that Crysis 2 is one of the (if not the most) GPU intensive games out on the market today, I fail to see how TS getting more future RAM and a 7750 is better than getting 8 GB RAM and a 560. Source on Crysis 2 Specs: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=616&game=Crysis%202

CRYSIS 2 DX11 Recommended: 64-bit Operating System Fast HDD or even SSD Quad Core CPU 8GB of RAM DX9 compatible graphic card with 1GB Video Memory.

Do you have a source on that? Everywhere I go says 4 GB RAM.

go to crytek official forums dude they recommend 8gb ram. WHY ON EARTH WOULD ANYONE BUY A PC THAT YOU CANT EXPAND ANYMORE THAN IT SHIPS WITH? THAT'S THE DUMBEST **** EVER
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#47 GummiRaccoon
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u mad bro

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#48 xboxownzuall545
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u mad bro

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The person who buys that pc that only supports 8gb max is gonna be pissed when crysis 3 releases and recommends 16gb and he cant upgrade his pc to 16gb because his motherboard only supports 8gb but hey listen to these dumbasses
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#49 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

u mad bro

xboxownzuall545

The person who buys that pc that only supports 8gb max is gonna be pissed when crysis 3 releases and recommends 16gb and he cant upgrade his pc to 16gb because his motherboard only supports 8gb but hey listen to these dumbasses

You don't understand anything, congrats.