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i wouldn't say AMD is favored by 3dmark, that is just childish. Otherwise the 780 and the titan wouldn't whoop the 7970's ass like it does. The real reason is the hardware specs are better for the 7970. Admit it, the bus width and the vram give the 7970 an advantage. Also that tech power up chart is misleading, as alot of those game devs have deep connections to nvidia. The fact is, the 770 is simply a slightly suuped up version of the 670, the specs are nearly identical and in the beginning people were even able to flash their 670's into 770's.
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It's not childish, it's common knowledge. Â Where have you been? Â This was established long ago. Â You're clueless. Â Â
The GTX 780 and Titan have such a brute horsepower advantage that they are able to overcome 3dmark's preference for AMD's current architecture. Â Do you get it now?
The techpowerup chart is the closest thing to a composite picture of overall performance that we have. Â It shows how the cards perform in actual games. Â You can b!tch all you want about the "deep connections to Nvidia" that you claim some of the games have, but the reality is that they are games that people run on their PCs. Â
Your comments about the 770 versus the 670 are also completely wrong. Â You once again show that you don't know enough about current hardware to even have a discussion with those of us that know what the f#ck we're talking about. Â The GTX 770 is essentially an overclocked GTX 680, but with faster RAM than any of the GTX 600 cards as well. Â It is NOT a 670. Â Not only does the GTX 770 have more CUDA cores than the 670, but different, faster VRAM. Â
Why don't you just give up already? Â Nobody has been able to flash a GTX 670 into a 770. Â And as stated earlier, there is a physical hardware difference between the GTX 770, and the GTX 680 upon which it's based. Â
As usual, your facts are, well.. not facts. Â Just wrong all over the place. Â
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well its pretty easy to call out your bs on this one. Your basically saying the same thing as me in a different way. The 780/titan woops the 7970's ass and the specs back that up. The 770 has weak specs, and thus gets crushed by a 7970. Its been known for a while that nvidia over prices their cards, using mid range specs with high end prices.Â
The number of transistors, lower vram, lower bus speed, smaller die size, all show what everybody already knows. The 770 is a mid range card, and the 7970 is a high end card. Alot of devs design games with code to specifically take advantage of nvidia hardware, whereas 3dmark doesn't do that. I think AMD is starting to catch on though, they are clearly paying game devs alot of money now, whereas they never used to.Â
Its completely neutral, and is a test of a cards brute power. The 780 and titan are clearly more powerful than a 7970, the 770 is not. I did make a mistake on the 770 being a 670, i mistook it for the wrong card. The 670 can be bios flashed to a 760, The 770 and the 680 are nearly identical. The 700 and 600 series both use gddr5 ram, dont know which hole you pulled faster ram out of, and i dont wanna know either. Maybe the ram speed is clocked higher, if thats what you're talking about, but a 680 can also oc the memory.
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You can keep pointing to the specs of the cards all you want, but the fact is that the GTX 770 outperforms the 7970 in most reviews. Â Make all the excuses you want about the games being "Nvidia games." Â If that's the case, too freaking bad for AMD. Â They need to get their partnerships together. Â Also- If that's the case, the Nvidia "midrange card" manages to beat the AMD "high end card" more often than not. Â That's not something I would be advertising if I were you, fanboy. Â
GTX 770 has 7GBPS rated GDDR5. Â GTX 670, 680, and 760 have 6GBPS VRAM. Â It's physically inferior RAM by design. Â Also- You cannot BIOS flash a GTX 670 to a 760. Â The 760 has fewer CUDA cores. Â At least learn what you're talking about before you make an attempt to debate a subject. Â
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