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#1 lonewolf_kai
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whats the best grfx card out there around $250ish, or less. not sure if i can do sli configure. i'm very new to the concept, but i only have one pci-express x16, so i dont think i can do that can i?

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#2 blooddrunk
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whats the best grfx card out there around $250ish, or less. not sure if i can do sli configure. i'm very new to the concept, but i only have one pci-express x16, so i dont think i can do that can i?

lonewolf_kai

250?

8800gts 512mb

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#3 ct1615
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you need two slots for SLI and suggest you read the GPU article at the top of this forum.
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#4 ferrari2001
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for around 250 would be the 8800 GTS 512mb.

But if you weren't on a budget the 9800GX2 is the greatest card on the market. I really wish I had 2 of those SLI'd.

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#5 blooddrunk
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for around 250 would be the 8800 GTS 512mb.

But if you weren't on a budget the 9800GX2 is the greatest card on the market. I really wish I had 2 of those SLI'd.

ferrari2001

wrong,

best single card solution is the 9800gx2

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you need two slots for SLI and suggest you read the GPU article at the top of this forum.ct1615
That's a horrible guide no offense to the person who made it.So many obvious inaccuracies in the category of the GPU's.Seems like the guy is just not in touch with what's going on in the GPU world.

What's even more surprising to me is that such a misleading guide is actually stickied.:?

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#7 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

for around 250 would be the 8800 GTS 512mb.

But if you weren't on a budget the 9800GX2 is the greatest card on the market. I really wish I had 2 of those SLI'd.

blooddrunk

wrong,

best single card solution is the 9800gx2

What else did he say?

Anyways the best card based on a single GPU is the 8800 ultra.

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#8 lonewolf_kai
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oh i read it, just wasnt sure if it was still accurate considering it was posted in feb and i dont really keep up to date on tech news. what about this 8800 gt with 1gb memory? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261012
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#9 Spybot_9
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oh i read it, just wasnt sure if it was still accurate considering it was posted in feb and i dont really keep up to date on tech news. what about this 8800 gt with 1gb memory? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261012lonewolf_kai
Ignore that card.8800GTS 512MB is better than that and any card that you can get for $250.
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#10 lonewolf_kai
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what kind of core clock should i be looking for?
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#11 ct1615
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[QUOTE="ct1615"]you need two slots for SLI and suggest you read the GPU article at the top of this forum.Spybot_9

That's a horrible guide no offense to the person who made it.So many obvious inaccuracies in the category of the GPU's.Seems like the guy is just not in touch with what's going on in the GPU world.

What's even more surprising to me is that such a misleading guide is actually stickied.:?

spoken like a true fan boy....how sad

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#12 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

[QUOTE="ct1615"]you need two slots for SLI and suggest you read the GPU article at the top of this forum.ct1615

That's a horrible guide no offense to the person who made it.So many obvious inaccuracies in the category of the GPU's.Seems like the guy is just not in touch with what's going on in the GPU world.

What's even more surprising to me is that such a misleading guide is actually stickied.:?

spoken like a true fan boy....how sad

What?

How does it make me a fanboy?

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#13 blooddrunk
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[QUOTE="ct1615"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

[QUOTE="ct1615"]you need two slots for SLI and suggest you read the GPU article at the top of this forum.Spybot_9

That's a horrible guide no offense to the person who made it.So many obvious inaccuracies in the category of the GPU's.Seems like the guy is just not in touch with what's going on in the GPU world.

What's even more surprising to me is that such a misleading guide is actually stickied.:?

spoken like a true fan boy....how sad

What?

How does it make me a fanboy?

for one its not dedicated to nvidia like you would LOVE

and secondly, u dont like to be proven wrong, thats an amazing guide for begginners but you dont like that it tells the truth, with you if it mentions the 3870 its crap

-.-

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#14 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"][QUOTE="ct1615"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

[QUOTE="ct1615"]you need two slots for SLI and suggest you read the GPU article at the top of this forum.blooddrunk

That's a horrible guide no offense to the person who made it.So many obvious inaccuracies in the category of the GPU's.Seems like the guy is just not in touch with what's going on in the GPU world.

What's even more surprising to me is that such a misleading guide is actually stickied.:?

spoken like a true fan boy....how sad

What?

How does it make me a fanboy?

for one its not dedicated to nvidia like you would LOVE

and secondly, u dont like to be proven wrong, thats an amazing guide for begginners but you dont like that it tells the truth, with you if it mentions the 3870 its crap

-.-

What are you talking about?

Ah you think I am an nvidia fanboy and hate ATI?I really dont see your reason for thinking so?

How is that a good guide for beginners when it tells you that a 2900XT is superior than 8800GT and 8800GTS.It tells you that a 2900XT is WAY better than a 3870 which is just ridiculous.It tells you that an 8800GTS 320MB is better than a 9600GT and 3870 when it isnt.Imagine somebody looking at the guide and then choose a 320MB 8800GTS over a 9600GT cuz they are going for similar prices right now?

Imagine somebody looking at the guide and picking up a 2900XT for $300?

People do guinely come here for advice and I dont see how is that guide stickied.

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#15 blooddrunk
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[QUOTE="blooddrunk"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"][QUOTE="ct1615"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

[QUOTE="ct1615"]you need two slots for SLI and suggest you read the GPU article at the top of this forum.Spybot_9

That's a horrible guide no offense to the person who made it.So many obvious inaccuracies in the category of the GPU's.Seems like the guy is just not in touch with what's going on in the GPU world.

What's even more surprising to me is that such a misleading guide is actually stickied.:?

spoken like a true fan boy....how sad

What?

How does it make me a fanboy?

for one its not dedicated to nvidia like you would LOVE

and secondly, u dont like to be proven wrong, thats an amazing guide for begginners but you dont like that it tells the truth, with you if it mentions the 3870 its crap

-.-

What are you talking about?

Ah you think I am an nvidia fanboy and hate ATI?I really dont see your reason for thinking so?

How is that a good guide for beginners when it tells you that a 2900XT is superior than 8800GT and 8800GTS.It tells you that a 2900XT is WAY better than a 3870 which is just ridiculous.It tells you that an 8800GTS 320MB is better than a 9600GT and 3870 when it isnt.Imagine somebody looking at the guide and then choose a 320MB 8800GTS over a 9600GT cuz they are going for similar prices right now?

Imagine somebody looking at the guide and picking up a 2900XT for $300?

People do guinely come here for advice and I dont see how is that guide stickied.

tell you what, u point me in the right direction because i dont seem to see that

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#16 Mam00th
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Well for $170 you can have a 8800 GT at NCIX
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#17 lonewolf_kai
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im an nvidia fanboy now. didnt used to be. used to go with either ati or geforce. however, with the last two experiences i have had with ati support, i will not be going back to it ever again. they basically screwed me over, first time wasn't too bad, but second time was just crappy on their part, but thats a whole different story.

anyways, i was looking at the reviews for the 8800gt and gts, and theres not that much different other than 112 shaders vs 128. i'm using tom's reviews too btw. however, with the 8800 gt, i can get 650 mhz core clock and with the gts its 678. one is $174, the other is $194.

how do you guys feel about the game market's push for higher and higher graphics output? do you think the games in the near future will start having requirements like crysis and assassin's creed?

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#18 SearchMaster
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For that budget, i'd go for 8800GTS (512mb) because they are discontinued product now so the price might even go lower but its all up to the demand because i've seen alot of people trying their best to get their hands on of these beats.
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#19 blooddrunk
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For that budget, i'd go for 8800GTS (512mb) because they are discontinued product now so the price might even go lower but its all up to the demand because i've seen alot of people trying their best to get their hands on of these beats.SearchMaster

since when did they discontinue the g92?

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#20 ferrari2001
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

for around 250 would be the 8800 GTS 512mb.

But if you weren't on a budget the 9800GX2 is the greatest card on the market. I really wish I had 2 of those SLI'd.

blooddrunk

wrong,

best single card solution is the 9800gx2

have you seen the video of it. It runs Crysis 1900x1200 Res. at ultra high with 2X AA at 47 FPS lets see your 8800 ultra do that.

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#21 blooddrunk
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[QUOTE="blooddrunk"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

for around 250 would be the 8800 GTS 512mb.

But if you weren't on a budget the 9800GX2 is the greatest card on the market. I really wish I had 2 of those SLI'd.

ferrari2001

wrong,

best single card solution is the 9800gx2

have you seen the video of it. It runs Crysis 1900x1200 Res. at ultra high with 2X AA at 47 FPS lets see your 8800 ultra do that.

i qouted the wrong person,

one i meant to qoute deleted their pst,

they said the gtx was the best single card

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#22 SearchMaster
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[QUOTE="SearchMaster"]For that budget, i'd go for 8800GTS (512mb) because they are discontinued product now so the price might even go lower but its all up to the demand because i've seen alot of people trying their best to get their hands on of these beats.blooddrunk

since when did they discontinue the g92?

They only stopped the GTS.. You dont read alot of news, do u ?? :P
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#23 blooddrunk
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[QUOTE="blooddrunk"]

[QUOTE="SearchMaster"]For that budget, i'd go for 8800GTS (512mb) because they are discontinued product now so the price might even go lower but its all up to the demand because i've seen alot of people trying their best to get their hands on of these beats.SearchMaster

since when did they discontinue the g92?

They only stopped the GTS.. You dont read alot of news, do u ?? :P

lol i guess not

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#24 lonewolf_kai
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would an 512 mb 8800GT be a safe bet for at least a year for today's and the future's games? i might have to go a little cheaper than $250. some money issues just came up. (damn pos vehicle!)
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#25 blackleather223
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That is unfortunat that reality caught up cause I think you would of love the 8800 gts 512mb card.

I have the 8800gt superclocked 512mb now you don't need or have to get something like this in order for it to last a long time but for me I bought the evga 8800gt superclocked 512mb and this is the last card that I'll buy for now cause the card that I have is out performing the pc that I have so that is why I'll stop for now.

Later and I do mean later on I'll build my self a pc and then that is when I'll up to another gpu. Not sure wich one I guess it all dependse on how much money I have by then.

To me I don't worry how long will this gpu last into the future far as games goes cause I'm not looking for the bestest the greatiest and all that stuff far as a gpu goes.. I'm not saying that you are cause you could be or you may not that doesn't matter to me. I'm just saying what I have done and may do latter on in the future.

I'm not sure how well crysis will play far as this card goes.

All I play on my pc is RTS games at the moment.

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#26 lonewolf_kai
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heres a 8800 gts with 640 mb for $200 (rebate), but the core clock is only 576 mhz. is that too slow? the 512 8800 gt i was looking at was 650 mhz
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#27 lonewolf_kai
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forgot to put the link in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

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#28 blooddrunk
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forgot to put the link in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

lonewolf_kai

the only gts worth getting is the 512 mb version becauswe of the processor it has

the 8800gt will outperform the one you linked

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heres a 8800 gts with 640 mb for $200 (rebate), but the core clock is only 576 mhz. is that too slow? the 512 8800 gt i was looking at was 650 mhzlonewolf_kai

forgot to put the link in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

lonewolf_kai

Well core clocks dont matter much when you are comparing cards with different specs.

Anyways that card is a G80 based one which do have slower clocks then G92 however they have more bandwitch and VRAM which makes up for it.

The card you have linked is a good one and is better than 8800GT but only get it if you cant get an 8800GTS 512MB for the same price.

And when you talk about core clocks you do know that those can be overclocked or are you just too afraid to do it?:P

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#30 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="lonewolf_kai"]

forgot to put the link in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

blooddrunk

the 8800gt will outperform the one you linked

Well no it doesnt.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/3173-evga-8800gts-640mb-w-112sps-ssc-edition-review-5.html

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#31 blooddrunk
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[QUOTE="blooddrunk"][QUOTE="lonewolf_kai"]

forgot to put the link in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

Spybot_9

the 8800gt will outperform the one you linked

Well no it doesnt.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/3173-evga-8800gts-640mb-w-112sps-ssc-edition-review-5.html

because its a smart idea to base your knowledge from 1 review?

wow

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#32 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"][QUOTE="blooddrunk"][QUOTE="lonewolf_kai"]

forgot to put the link in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

blooddrunk

the 8800gt will outperform the one you linked

Well no it doesnt.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/3173-evga-8800gts-640mb-w-112sps-ssc-edition-review-5.html

because its a smart idea to base your knowledge from 1 review?

wow

Becasue it'a a smart idea to have some knowledge about computer hardware.:)

It is not a normal 8800GTS 640MB.It has 112 stream processors just like the 8800GT and the extra bandwitch allows it to outperform the 8800GT.

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#33 ferrari2001
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="blooddrunk"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

for around 250 would be the 8800 GTS 512mb.

But if you weren't on a budget the 9800GX2 is the greatest card on the market. I really wish I had 2 of those SLI'd.

blooddrunk

wrong,

best single card solution is the 9800gx2

have you seen the video of it. It runs Crysis 1900x1200 Res. at ultra high with 2X AA at 47 FPS lets see your 8800 ultra do that.

i qouted the wrong person,

one i meant to qoute deleted their pst,

they said the gtx was the best single card

they said it is because the drivers for the 9800 GX2 arn't up to par yet so it's a little buggy but it's a frekin Beast. Nothing can beat it.

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#34 m2twkisfun
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[QUOTE="blooddrunk"]

[QUOTE="SearchMaster"]For that budget, i'd go for 8800GTS (512mb) because they are discontinued product now so the price might even go lower but its all up to the demand because i've seen alot of people trying their best to get their hands on of these beats.SearchMaster

since when did they discontinue the g92?

They only stopped the GTS.. You dont read alot of news, do u ?? :P

I didn't know that either, guess they stopped it as it is basicly the same as the 9800 GTX. And for the price, takes the value out of the GTX. Or am I wrong?

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#35 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="SearchMaster"][QUOTE="blooddrunk"]

[QUOTE="SearchMaster"]For that budget, i'd go for 8800GTS (512mb) because they are discontinued product now so the price might even go lower but its all up to the demand because i've seen alot of people trying their best to get their hands on of these beats.m2twkisfun

since when did they discontinue the g92?

They only stopped the GTS.. You dont read alot of news, do u ?? :P

I didn't know that either, guess they stopped it as it is basicly the same as the 9800 GTX. And for the price, takes the value out of the GTX. Or am I wrong?

You are spot on.;)
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#36 brood_aliance
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At around that price range ($250-$325):

8800GT SLi>HD3870 Crossfire>9800GTX>8800GTS (G92 Rev)

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#37 Spybot_9
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At around that price range ($250-$325):

8800GT SLi>HD3870 Crossfire>9800GTX>8800GTS (G92 Rev)

brood_aliance

8800GT will run you $360 minimum.

Plus you just cant compare that way cuz SLI\CF mobo\PSU expenditure is more than when going for a single card.

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#38 lonewolf_kai
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im embarassed to say, i dont know how to overclock, unless theres an option to do it from the control panel
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#39 m2twkisfun
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im embarassed to say, i dont know how to overclock, unless theres an option to do it from the control panellonewolf_kai

Download riva tuner or, ATI tool or, ntun. Overclocking video cards is so easy its not funny.

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#40 lonewolf_kai
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[QUOTE="lonewolf_kai"]heres a 8800 gts with 640 mb for $200 (rebate), but the core clock is only 576 mhz. is that too slow? the 512 8800 gt i was looking at was 650 mhzSpybot_9

forgot to put the link in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

lonewolf_kai

Well core clocks dont matter much when you are comparing cards with different specs.

Anyways that card is a G80 based one which do have slower clocks then G92 however they have more bandwitch and VRAM which makes up for it.

The card you have linked is a good one and is better than 8800GT but only get it if you cant get an 8800GTS 512MB for the same price.

And when you talk about core clocks you do know that those can be overclocked or are you just too afraid to do it?:P

okay, now im really confused. wouldnt a 8800 gts with 640 mb be a better card than the 8800 gts with 512 mb??

and, i take it that ntun is for geforces?

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[QUOTE="lonewolf_kai"]heres a 8800 gts with 640 mb for $200 (rebate), but the core clock is only 576 mhz. is that too slow? the 512 8800 gt i was looking at was 650 mhzlonewolf_kai

forgot to put the link in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

lonewolf_kai

Well core clocks dont matter much when you are comparing cards with different specs.

Anyways that card is a G80 based one which do have slower clocks then G92 however they have more bandwitch and VRAM which makes up for it.

The card you have linked is a good one and is better than 8800GT but only get it if you cant get an 8800GTS 512MB for the same price.

And when you talk about core clocks you do know that those can be overclocked or are you just too afraid to do it?:P

okay, now im really confused. wouldnt a 8800 gts with 640 mb be a better card than the 8800 gts with 512 mb??

and, i take it that ntun is for geforces?

ntune is for nvidia ant ati tool is for both, rivatuner is better than both

the 512 is faster since it has afasr processro, the g92, jsut because it has more ram doesnt make it betetr

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#42 m2twkisfun
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

[QUOTE="lonewolf_kai"]heres a 8800 gts with 640 mb for $200 (rebate), but the core clock is only 576 mhz. is that too slow? the 512 8800 gt i was looking at was 650 mhzlonewolf_kai

forgot to put the link in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

lonewolf_kai

Well core clocks dont matter much when you are comparing cards with different specs.

Anyways that card is a G80 based one which do have slower clocks then G92 however they have more bandwitch and VRAM which makes up for it.

The card you have linked is a good one and is better than 8800GT but only get it if you cant get an 8800GTS 512MB for the same price.

And when you talk about core clocks you do know that those can be overclocked or are you just too afraid to do it?:P

okay, now im really confused. wouldnt a 8800 gts with 640 mb be a better card than the 8800 gts with 512 mb??

and, i take it that ntun is for geforces?

Heres the wiki

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#43 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

[QUOTE="lonewolf_kai"]heres a 8800 gts with 640 mb for $200 (rebate), but the core clock is only 576 mhz. is that too slow? the 512 8800 gt i was looking at was 650 mhzlonewolf_kai

forgot to put the link in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

lonewolf_kai

Well core clocks dont matter much when you are comparing cards with different specs.

Anyways that card is a G80 based one which do have slower clocks then G92 however they have more bandwitch and VRAM which makes up for it.

The card you have linked is a good one and is better than 8800GT but only get it if you cant get an 8800GTS 512MB for the same price.

And when you talk about core clocks you do know that those can be overclocked or are you just too afraid to do it?:P

okay, now im really confused. wouldnt a 8800 gts with 640 mb be a better card than the 8800 gts with 512 mb??

and, i take it that ntun is for geforces?

No more VRAM doesnt make a card better.

The 512MB GTS is a bit better than that 640MB card.

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#44 lonewolf_kai
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you know, all these years, i always thought it was the ram that made the card. ive been so enlightented with this topic. thanks guys!
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#45 Spybot_9
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you know, all these years, i always thought it was the ram that made the card. ive been so enlightented with this topic. thanks guys!lonewolf_kai
When I was a noob I also used to think the same and many people still do and make bad purchases unfortunately.Just remember that having enough VRAM is absolutely crucial and 512MB is enough.However having enough VRAM doesnt necessarily make a card good.

BTW what are your other specs?

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#46 lonewolf_kai
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my computer? its an intel core2 quad Q6700@2.67 ghz, 4 gb ram. using 64bit vista, which btw, i absolutely hate.
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#47 m2twkisfun
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my computer? its an intel core2 quad Q6700@2.67 ghz, 4 gb ram. using 64bit vista, which btw, i absolutely hate.lonewolf_kai

32bit Vista can be troublesome in terms of drivers, but 64bit can be a REAL headace!!

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my computer? its an intel core2 quad Q6700@2.67 ghz, 4 gb ram. using 64bit vista, which btw, i absolutely hate.lonewolf_kai
That's great your PC rocks.Just add a nice GPU now.:)
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#49 lonewolf_kai
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got a 8800gts 512mb on the way. found a good deal online last night from evga.

thanks again for your help guys

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#50 Spybot_9
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got a 8800gts 512mb on the way. found a good deal online last night from evga.

thanks again for your help guys

lonewolf_kai
Very good decision.:)